The F1 2014 season

FrankJH · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:38

HummuH1 said:
What a strange analogy. .

Let me explain it to you then

Just because junior formula drivers need to learn how to warm up / keep their tyres warm doesnt mean drivers at the pinacle need to prove they can do it too (without adversely wearing them out)

Just like EPL players learn different skills (like playing in a different area of the pitch) when they are younger, to make them an all round better player even if a year or two off they then focus on one set of skills. 9 times out of ten when a player gets int a decent team they dont have to prove they have played in a different area of the pitch to the one they are bought / transferred for.

(yes there are notable exceptions, but they are also pretty rare - and also like Henry at Arsenal who started off as a winger but "ended" up as an out an out striker - they are usually quite similar attributes).

HummuH1 said:
Have they? There was me thinking that money was more important than skill and proven career path in F1. Anything that potentially puts distance between those who have bought their seat and those who are there on merit is a good thing IMO.

Thats why I said " NEARLY every" - as those who cant stand the heat rarely last very long

lunarwolf · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:38

Spunkey said:
TBH with the state Lotus are now in I'm kind of glad that Maldonado got the drive over the Hulk. I think I'd rather be at FI too

Hulkenberg has a new nickname -> the bullet dodger

FrankJH · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:40

lunarwolf said:
I think that is great. Boullier has done a very good job at Lotus, and think he is the right man. Great to see him leave the nonsense at Lotus, he deserves better. Maybe if the newbie driver doesn't work out we will see Boullier be able to get Hulk at McLaren in 2015

Hopefully McLaren can sort out a major sponsor. The loss of Vodafone and its 70m funding cannot be good regardless of what their PR dept says

Not a chance is it a good thing (if true). He is not a motorsport man in the slightest. He is a generic money manager - shouldnt have anything to do with the pit lane

lunarwolf · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:47

FrankJH said:
Not a chance is it a good thing (if true). He is not a motorsport man in the slightest. He is a generic money manager - shouldnt have anything to do with the pit lane

Nonesense. He holds an aeronautical and spacecraft engineering degree from France's best engineering school. Not to mention the good job he has done at Lotus in a team with significantly less funding with top teams they were beating on a regular basis

Memphis · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:52

Glaucus said:
I would wait before saying that, that's like the third inside scoop team principle in under a day. They can't all have it right.

Absolutely, but one of the major rumors was started by Taki Inoue so...

Autosport reported the Boullier story very early and they never do that unless they have solid belief in it. Of any source of F1 news I trust Autosport.

Memphis · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:54

FrankJH said:
Not a chance is it a good thing (if true). He is not a motorsport man in the slightest. He is a generic money manager - shouldnt have anything to do with the pit lane

Because motorsport journalists who really know what they're talking about would support someone with no place in the pit lane... :rolleyes:

~Mike~ · 24 Jan 2014 at 10:55

@ScarbsF1 Expect to see the first of the non finger F1 noses this weekend, with the bulbous bow nose

Which is worse?

Gonzo0 · 24 Jan 2014 at 11:14

Will Lotus make it to the first race at this rate:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25877832

Boullier is out!

Shimmy · 24 Jan 2014 at 11:19

Memphis said:
Absolutely, but one of the major rumors was started by Taki Inoue so...

Autosport reported the Boullier story very early and they never do that unless they have solid belief in it. Of any source of F1 news I trust Autosport.

Taki Inoue was joking about Sam Michael, well at least that's what I read from Will Buxton iirc.

Shimmy · 24 Jan 2014 at 11:44

New Ferrari confirmed as F14T, aka FIAT

Nismo · 24 Jan 2014 at 11:45

Shimmy said:
New Ferrari confirmed as F14T, aka FIAT

Gay

Corrupt Italians :/

~Mike~ · 24 Jan 2014 at 11:48

Shimmy said:
New Ferrari confirmed as F14T, aka FIAT

Fix!

FrankJH · 24 Jan 2014 at 11:53

lunarwolf said:
Nonesense. He holds an aeronautical and spacecraft engineering degree from France's best engineering school. Not to mention the good job he has done at Lotus in a team with significantly less funding with top teams they were beating on a regular basis

so he isnt a motorsport guy, thank you for the confirmation

He may be a good engineer but makes no difference.

Glad to hear Lotus were a one man band...lol

Memphis said:
Because motorsport journalists who really know what they're talking about would support someone with no place in the pit lane...

Ive highlighted the obvious fault with this

Shimmy · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:04

New Lotus E22

E-twenty-Ewww?

~Mike~ · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:28

That's worse than the McLaren penis nose.

Will it ever be made though?

413x · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:37

It just gets worse and worse

I was intending to watch the first race but I don't think I can stomach even that

Do they even have a car?

Lopéz · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:39

FrankJH said:
Not a chance is it a good thing (if true). He is not a motorsport man in the slightest. He is a generic money manager - shouldnt have anything to do with the pit lane

Flavio Briatore (controversial though he was!) was a salesman who wasn't interested in F1 and he did alright.

Ken Tyrrell was a timber merchant.

You don't have to have lived and breathed the industry since birth to do well as a team principal.

JHeaton · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:44

FrankJH said:
I didnt realise GP2 was now the self proclaimed pinnacle of the sport

It doesn't have to be. The pace difference isn't massive (we're not comparing F1 to Formula Vee, here), but you don't see them creeping round in GP2 once they've fitted a fresh set of tyres. I think the loss of tyre warmers would not be anywhere near as extreme as people are making out, even though I think it's ultimately a pointless idea.

FrankJH · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:48

Lopéz said:
Flavio Briatore (controversial though he was!) was a salesman who wasn't interested in F1 and he did alright.

Ken Tyrrell was a timber merchant.

You don't have to have lived and breathed the industry since birth to do well as a team principal.

The fact you have actually only come up with one person in the last 30 years who has had sustained success (like McLaren are aiming for) tells me more than anything

That Lotus nose is laughable (is it even racable?) (I much prefer the McLaren version to Lotus or Williams, although if they end up like that is another matter entirely)

lunarwolf · 24 Jan 2014 at 13:27

FrankJH said:
so he isnt a motorsport guy, thank you for the confirmation

He may be a good engineer but makes no difference.

Glad to hear Lotus were a one man band...lol

Ive highlighted the obvious fault with this

F1 has evolved from the grease monkey days, a lot of materials and aero comes from aeronautical research. Lotus doesn't even build its own engine it buys it from Renault :rolleyes:

Lotus isn't a one man band, but he was a key player in rebuilding the team from the mess Flavio left it in. What makes you think he isn't qualified or hasn't a proven track record is beyond me since facts clearly show otherwise