The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?

[Mal X]

The 590 GTX? It is a pointless card, much better to get 2 580 GTX.

there aren't many for sale... very rare indeed, i only saw 4 on Ebay and almost 300 of the GTX 580s !!!! so this tells me the GTX 590 will be poor for driver updates in the future

no i'd rather get two of the 7950s...... the GTX 580 is a hundred quid more and not as good, but i think dual cards will be silly on 1080p

 

[thezakarum]

Well, the 7970 isn't too far from GTX570 SLI, so if Kepler eats it, or even equalises, then you should be fine!

You're only saying that to get me back to watercooling.

Didn't Nvidia try to blame it on poor quality parts aswell?

They didn't use MSI military class parts.

 

[Rroff]

Apparently it was a driver issue.

What they didn't mention was these people used rivatuner to force off the power limiter... afaik it does not happen even with those drivers with this feature left enabled and later drivers prevented that scenario. I may be wrong but every case I've looked at where this happened has been where people have forced off the power management and overclocked/volted while running furmarks I'm yet to see a single reliable case of it happening normally.

 

[Cleeecooo]

You're only saying that to get me back to watercooling.

Partially, yes
My main point was that what you wanted (a single card to match ur 570s) was already here

They didn't use MSI military class parts.

Don't you mean "military class"

 

[RavenXXX2]

Apparently the OV protection was not in the drivers shipped with the card.

However, the problem can only occur if you overclock or overvolt the card, and only if you use an older driver. The GeForce 267.52 driver that was originally given out to the press, and which might be available from some websites, does not activate a safety mechanism that prevents damage to the card’s power components. However, Nvidia's latest driver does feature overcurrent protection.

 

[Rroff]

Ah

 

[Mal X]

what's the FPS for a 7950 on Crysis 2 on high quality?

 

[Stanners]

what's the FPS for a 7950 on Crysis 2 on high quality?

I think you maybe in the wrong thread.

 

[PGdude]

I'm not sure why anyone would get a 590 new now.... in terms of just for gaming at least. A 7970 OCd does inch ahead of it and doesn't have the multiGPU annoyances that can crop up...

Still. Look at those prices.

 

[thezakarum]

what's the FPS for a 7950 on Crysis 2 on high quality?

Not enough, you could start another thread and ask the same question though.

 

[555BUK]

Btw, what do you guys think they will use for the gtx660/gtx670?

Or will there even be a gtx660/gtx670?

If they're all using the same GK104 chip with disabled shaders then it could be interesting if we're able to unlock them.

I am not sure there will be a GTX660/670. If they arrive they will probably be shader/memory crippled GK104's, but it is also possible that the 6xx series will be short lived and the 7xx series will arrive in August/September with the new GK110, which will be the correct owner of a x80 name. That will leave GK104 to take up the 760 or possibly even the 770 tag.

GK104's current naming is out by 20, and it's price is out be £100 to £150. **** NVidia, and **** AMD for leading the way withe the overpriced and average 7970. I'm out.

 

[Havana_UK]

Not enough, you could start another thread and ask the same question though.

I don't think there will be a GTX660/670 now.

I believe nVidia's original plan was to launch GK104 as the GTX660 (hence the decidedly mid-range VRAM and memory bus, and mid range product code, Gx104), and then later release the "full fat" GK110, allegedly two GK104 cores in the same package, as GTX680.

However, when they saw that AMD's 7970 launch performance was a little underwhelming (and I concede that had AMD launched it with much higher clocks it would have been a different story) and highly priced, they decided that they'd re-brand the GK104 as GTX680 giving them time to work the kinks out of GK110 and launch it as a GTX780 (there was lots of speculation about product naming early on).

Because nVidia's mid-range part competes favourably against AMD's enthusiast part (remember nVidia publicly said they were very surpised about 7970's apparent lack of umph in stock guise) they've been able to rethink their launch plans.

Personally I'm gutted, because I was really looking forward to GK104 coming out as GTX660 at the ~£250 price point because it would have been an awesome upgrade from my GTX260. Now that the very same piece of silicon is getting launched with the GTX680 moniker and a price tag to match I almost certainly won't be buying

 

[Mal X]

Not enough, you could start another thread and ask the same question though.

http://www.amd-radeon.com/2012/02/amd-radeon-7950-crysis-2-benchmark.html

it looks like the 7950 gets its arse kicked by the gtx 590..... this isn't good, it's about 96FPS to about 50FPS, i dont understand this, the GTX 590 is flipping miles better than the 7950... right across the board, both the 7950 and the 7970 look poor to me, please tell me what's going on !!!!!

the 6990 is the only other one that's any good, i'm sorry but i thought the 7970 was the best card out...... it aint and not even close, i dont understand any of this

 

[ALXAndy]

http://www.amd-radeon.com/2012/02/amd-radeon-7950-crysis-2-benchmark.html

it looks like the 7950 gets its arse kicked by the gtx 590..... this isn't good

Course it does ya wally. Crikey what was you expecting it to do? part the red sea?

 

[Havana_UK]

http://www.amd-radeon.com/2012/02/amd-radeon-7950-crysis-2-benchmark.html

it looks like the 7950 gets its arse kicked by the gtx 590..... this isn't good

It's because the whole 7xxx series launch from AMD is decidely mediocre, which is bad for everyone

 

[ALXAndy]

It's because the whole 7xxx series launch from AMD is decidely mediocre, which is bad for everyone

What? How the chuff can you expect a £320 or so card to compete with and beat a £650 card carrying two ****** GPUs?

Jees Louise.

 

[Mal X]

Course it does ya wally. Crikey what was you expecting it to do? part the red sea?

well why are you lot telling me to get this 7970 card then and posting in how great it is ... i want the GTX 590.... these other cards are much too slow in comparison

they're 40 to 50 FPS slower, sorry guys i didn't realise this... i had no idea at all, even the 6990 is interesting, this means i have to save 600 quid..... bloody hell..... this is a bit of a shock, i only thought that they were a few frames slower, not 45% !

 

[Bobisuruncle54]

well why are you lot telling me to get this bloody 7970 card then and posting in how great it is ...i aint after this, i want the GTX 590.... these other cards are much too slow in comparison

they're 40 to 50 FPS slower, sorry guys i didn't realise this... i had no idea at all, even the 6990 is interesting, this means i have to save 600 quid..... bloody hell !

they're still way too expensive though

Just get a 7970 with the best cooler you can afford and be prepared to overclock it to 1150-1250Mhz. At that speed it starts to trade one or two blows with the dual GPU cards of the last generation, and you also don't have to worry about crossfire/sli support/problems.

 

[Mal X]

i doubt it, the 7970 is too far behind for an OC to get close and i'm not keen on OC like crazy anyway..

i'm going to have to think about this..

 

[Havana_UK]

What? How the chuff can you expect a £320 or so card to compete with and beat a £650 card carrying two ****** GPUs?

Jees Louise.

Because this is what we SHOULD expect from generational changes, that the new generation's top-end single-chip GPU should match (or nearly match) the performance of the previous generation's dual-chip solution.