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The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread

40Four said:
I imagine lots of people have bought 980Ti simply because you can buy it now rather than some unknown date in the near future, now they have this whiny pump issue on top of it.

It's a shame as i really like AMD but Nvidia just seem more attractive at this point. I does seem more and more as if AMD were pinning there hopes on a die shrink, even if was only to 20nm and then had to put this card together in a relatively short space of time. As you said the Fury X is a good product even if it was a little overhyped and i personally am torn between that it and the Ti.
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I think you are right and AMd had really assumed there would be a die shrink. In the end they ahd to figure out what they could fit within the 600mm footprint of the HBM interposer and decide what technologies to focus on. They put a lot of resources into HBM, and that is great, but ultimately I think it was a bad choice. Limiting vram to 4GB if a bg issue even if there isn't a technical one (which there is), AMD's own marketing is telling people the 390X is twice is good as the 980 because it has twice the vram. AMD didn't have the transistor budget to increase all aspects of the GPU and focused on increasing pixel shaders over TMUs, ROPs geometer and tessellation, and they didn't have time or transistor space to update their controllers to handle things like HDMI2.0. They used HBM to improve their power requirements while Nviida improved the architecture efficiency.

FuryX should be a pixel shading beast but that only helps in games with massive amount of complex pixel shading. Nvidia's approach is much more balanced. More pixel shading power is a good call for the future but there are things like tessellation that AMD are still relatively behind in, even although made some some improvement in Fiji.


I only hope that when they move to 16mm that their experience with HBM give them a bg benefit and lets them concentrate on other things like tessellation and general efficiency.
 
Once you get to a straight-up comparison, the problem AMD faces is that the GTX 980 Ti is the safer bet. On average it performs better at every resolution, it has more VRAM, it consumes a bit less power, and NVIDIA’s drivers are lean enough that we aren’t seeing CPU bottlenecking that would impact owners of 144Hz displays. To that end the R9 Fury X is by no means a bad card – in fact it’s quite a good card – but NVIDIA struck first and struck with a slightly better card, and this is the situation AMD must face. At the end of the day one could do just fine with the R9 Fury X, it’s just not what I believe to be the best card at $649.
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About sums it up. AMD fury x price drop anyone......
 
TaKeN said:
I'm still waiting for the Air Cooled Fury, we appear to have no information or leaks, which strikes me as a little odd, doesn't it launch on the 14th? :confused:
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One of the other efficiency's the FuryX has is the AIO which keeps the chip much cooler resulting in lower electron leakage. If the FuryX was to run hotter this power consumption would increase quite a lot. That is unimportant for the FuryX but for the air cooled Fury it will ether have to be cut down quite a lot or it will be very power hungry and need a very beefy cooler.

Some people are holding out for the plain Fury but I expect hey will be disappointed. The FuryX is definitely the card to get form AMD.

Coincidentally Anandtech cover this in some detail:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/5
 
Firefox35 said:
Such a shame, seems even the AMD die hards are switching across to Nvidia.
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I contemplated a 980ti you know it seems like a great deal.
still it is old tech, it dosnt offer me anything new vs a Fury.
It run games so does Fury, it isnt flexible in eyefinity.
It is run by a ceo who can walk on stage and lie to the whole world that a card exist when it does not. Might not be a good reason but then the 970 ram issue and I thought did they do that with intent?

I want to wake up go play my games feeling proud of my hardware.
AMD offers me that with the Fury.

AMDMatt needs to slip up regarding the 14 July.:D
its needed so needed.
 
This card will just be like Hawaii is right now, it'll continue to make gains 18+ months from now becoming stronger and stronger while Maxwell will mysteriously top out when Pascal has been out a few months ;) :D

Imo it's a good investment for a gamer who plays at 1440p and below :cool:

as long as you get a whine-free pump of course ;) :p
 
JediFragger said:
This card will just be like Hawaii is right now, it'll continue to make gains 18+ months from now becoming stronger and stronger while Maxwell will mysteriously top out when Pascal has been out a few months ;) :D

Imo it's a good investment for a gamer who plays at 1440p and below :cool:

as long as you get a whine-free pump of course ;) :p
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4K is the only resolution where it offers any kind of competition. Sure a single FuryX is not quite there so a dual FuryX would do really well, but with 2 caveats:
1) Reliance on AMD xfire profiles.
2) You will hit the 4GB vram limit at 4K and ultra settings from time to time.


As you go down in resolution the 980Ti become faster and faster.
 
As a big ATI/AMD GPU fan at this very moment i would buy 980TI.....
After all that hype I Expected more..... And WTF with Overclockers dream ?? Cant even overclock this card at this stage !!!!
 
Firefox35 said:
Such a shame, seems even the AMD die hards are switching across to Nvidia.

Doubt I will ever get AMD, they constantly ignore their customers, fail to release crossfire profiles for new games consistently, and now this whinegate business, a decent company would release a statement putting the loyal customers who bought their card's mind at ease by offering to exchange all cards to the revised model but noooooo not AMD.

Its like they want to go out of business, as much as I like Nvidia cards I would not want them to have no competition but I think this will happen, it is only a matter of time,
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Lol you mean like Nvidia did when so many people were upset that they had bought a GTX 970 only to find out it had gimped memory design and less ROPS / Cache.. Nvidia did exactly the same thing, promptly burying their heads in the sand and letting retailers deal with the mess. (OCUK were awesome about that issue btw) Nvidia released an apology that wasn't an apology much later after sales were being affected.. AMD and Nvidia could do much better towards their customers imho.

Yup there you have it really AMD / Nvdia are no different. I cannot see a single argument to prefer either company over the other. They both don't deal with customer terribly well. They both have dodgy drivers from time to time.

You really just have to buy based on hardware, the Fury X looks great but pump whine has ruined the early cards. The 980 Ti is a great solid card from Nvidia.

Hopefully this Fury X issue is now fixed in production and future cards will be whine free.
 
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