The Huw Edwards situation

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my POV is that that's unacceptable

What's unacceptable?

You decided the Sun's Instagram story was worth giving credit to and got unhappy that I found your low standard for evidence vomit inducing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, your full and total evidence for being convinced of unacceptable behaviour in the story is a screenshot with edits by The Sun wherein the 17 year old mentions their age months after the "flirting".

Now if the screenshots were the other way around as you "accidentally" had them and the 17 year old declared their age in the evidence well before the "flirting" that would make sense as a claim of unacceptability.

But that wasn't true was it.
 
FFS in 2022 he was interviewed in regards a 20 year depression cycle.

20 ******* years.
You're grasping at straws.

I accept he has depression. But it's nothing to do with the point I was making.

If he can justify his actions he wouldn't be worked up in the state he's in.

I've been consistent with that opinion. I was saying he should have come out and get in front of the story.

In my opinion he can't do that because in his world view he doesn't want to admit to himself what he's been doing.

That's just my opinion based off how I've seen people online since the early 90s.
 
What a bin fire of a thread this has turned out to be.

Some people trying to take the moral high ground is hypocrisy at its highest.

Check your posts in any Andrew Tate thread before you all criticise people.

Moraly wrong. JFC.

I think we really are seeing the worst of the worst of 'opinions' here.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, your full and total evidence for being convinced of unacceptable behaviour in the story is a screenshot with edits by The Sun wherein the 17 year old mentions their age months after the "flirting".

There are accusations from 4 different people not just this series of DM's from one person on Instagram, it's not a standalone story but was presented as a follow-up with that person and a 4th coming forwards with claims of inappropriateness. You seem hung up on the fact it's the Sun publishing it but you don't need to read their coverage beyond the facts being presented.

Now if the screenshots were the other way around as you "accidentally" had them and the 17 year old declared their age in the evidence well before the "flirting" that would make sense as a claim of unacceptability.

It's unacceptable regardless, nothing I said relied on screen shots being in a particular order or indeed claims that he knew for sure that this person was 17 at the start of the convo, you seem to be falling back to the straw man argument where you're not paying attention to what I said and assuming instead some argument that relies on things I've not claimed.
 
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The Sun used to pay 16 year olds for semi nude photos...


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I don’t get how this is a defence? It doesn’t make it right now.
 
Some people trying to take the moral high ground is hypocrisy at its highest.

This is the third poster to make a claim like this and it's a tad worrying... honestly what sort of skeletons do some of you guys have in your closets if you think this situation is in any way normal private life stuff or that criticising it is hypocrisy?
 
You're grasping at straws.

I accept he has depression. But it's nothing to do with the point I was making.

If he can justify his actions he wouldn't be worked up in the state he's in.

I've been consistent with that opinion. I was saying he should have come out and get in front of the story.

In my opinion he can't do that because in his world view he doesn't want to admit to himself what he's been doing.

That's just my opinion based off how I've seen people online since the early 90s.

Legally he may have been (I personally am reserving judgement) doing nothing wrong.
Why would you rush to out yourself for something that narrow minded bigots see as wrong and the judgement that will come with that when you may not need to.

He may already have been having an episode. I imagine someone with a depression cycle for that period will likely know their triggers and may well have gone from fine to suffering immediately anyway.

But I am not going to guess which is all you have done, over and over and over. Just like the N Bulley thread.

He had no need to out his personal life just because some people think they have a right to know everything.
 
No it's when it's used as a lame, broad excuse. His colleagues were getting flack for days and he's only come out today and still hasn't addressed the claims citing mental health as the excuse... but he seemingly started the track covering exercise days ago when his Instagram account mysteriously vanished.

He was also alleged to have been in contact with the first accuser.

So he's fine to contact them (allegedly) and seemingly to deal with lawyers but MH is the reason he couldn't instruct them to address the other allegations.
I had to check the sky wasn't falling to find myself agreeing with Dowie but he's right, Huw hasn't really done anything wrong, he could have just owned his questionable moral choices but it seems he'd rather bury himself deeper hiding behind the shield of mental health, scandals like this where nobody has done anything wrong but is morally questionable in public opinion are a hazard of the job of being a high profile person in media, if you don't want scandal, don't do scandalous things, mental health is poor excuse for poor choices, usually, the mental health issue is a result of the poor choices, not a cause of the poor choices
 
Legally he may have been (I personally am reserving judgement) doing nothing wrong.
Why would you rush to out yourself for something that narrow minded bigots see as wrong and the judgement that will come with that when you may not need to.

He may already have been having an episode. I imagine someone with a depression cycle for that period will likely know their triggers and may well have gone from fine to suffering immediately anyway.

But I am not going to guess which is all you have done, over and over and over. Just like the N Bulley thread.

He had no need to out his personal life just because some people think they have a right to know everything.
The Sun printing headlines hinting at possible illegal actions, and his colleagues saying in public he should just come out.

The media speculation was constantly building, so something had to happen.

I don't know why you keep having a dig at me.

Empathy means to put ourselves into someone elses place. If I was him and thought I hadn't done anything wrong I would have gone public, especially when my name was all over social media.
 
Some people seem sure there is a 17 year old involved in this somewhere though?

I think perhaps you're muddling the first accusation (which involved a mother complaining about her son?) and the mother making an accusation that the relationship(?) started when the "victim" was 17. Allegations were about payment for pictures etc.. There hasn't been a complete denial of that one but there has been a denial of crimiality indicating that the person concerned wasn't 17 when it (allegedly) started.

There were then other accusations about his conduct, one of which was rather milder by itself and concerned Huw allegedly initiating a flirty DM conversation with a 17-year-old follower on Instagram... this seemingly just involved hearts and kisses and the 17-year-old later stated in the DMs that they were in their final year of school.

By itself that's far less sleazy, in context, it's a bit suspect, especially given the other story about the lockdown breach/payments seemingly for a meet-up via a dating app with another young man and another story about some flirtation and later abusive messaging with a fourth individual.
 
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