The Huw Edwards situation

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dowie said:
Nope they're not just reporting what The Sun said... try to keep up, there are more new allegations now, see another newspaper I'm sure you love:

www.dailymail.co.uk

Huw Edwards hit with fresh claims of 'inappropriate behaviour'

A current employee said messages about their appearance left them with a 'cold shudder', while an ex-staff member said 'late night' messages which included 'kisses' were an 'abuse of power'.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk


You've gotta apply some common sense... was he likely to have (allegedly) only met just one person on the dating app, just (allegedly) slid in flirtatiously to the DM's of just one young lad on Instagram and by sheer chance all those people came forwards within a few days???

Or perhaps those things were just adding more context to the sort of person he is...

So no, it's not just the Sun, now it's the BBC reporting that its own junior staff have been complaining about this guy!
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Who asked you to ignore the post I was posting after and invent your own context. Cheeky monkey.

Keep up, you've not even made note that the BBC complaints include the astonishing allegations that he signs off messages with an X to colleagues. Gosh. Like he doesn't even care who he X's at.
 
Hotwired said:
Keep up, you've not even made note that the BBC complaints include the astonishing allegations that he signs off messages with an X to colleagues. Gosh. Like he doesn't even care who he X's at.
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So DMing the teenager with hearts and kisses is to be dismissed because the Sun reported it and now late-night texts to colleagues is to be belittled...

Apparently sending kisses to BBC colleagues you've never even met is totally fine... you can't see why they might think that is a potential abuse of power?
 
dowie said:
So DMing the teenager with hearts and kisses is to be dismissed because the Sun reported it and now late-night texts to colleagues is to be belittled...

Apparently sending kisses to BBC colleagues you've never even met is totally fine... you can't see why they might think that is a potential abuse of power?
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On the contrary I think the allegations need to be looked at with enough information to make an informed decision and the BBC is in such a position to obtain it.

There was a scenario earlier with some guy calling grossly inadequate information adequate and I mocked him for his terrible standards of evidence. I thought it was done after about 15 pages but who knows.
 
Trusty said:
But i think brushing over the fact that someone can be ill and diseased from these afflictions is a bit mad.
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It's not brushing over, I stand by my opinion through personal experience that it's simply a lack of willpower to overcome, as I said, nothing in life is easy, you have to deal with the cards that are handed to you and do your best, not just give up at first or second hurdle because they don't really suffer any consequences for their actions because they can just blame the affliction for all their woes
 
Minusorange said:
It's not brushing over, I stand by my opinion through personal experience that it's simply a lack of willpower to overcome, as I said, nothing in life is easy, you have to deal with the cards that are handed to you and do your best, not just give up at first or second hurdle because they don't really suffer any consequences for their actions because they can just blame the affliction for all their woes
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Don't agree at all with making sweeping statements on depression.

Learned a while back a relative of mine was taking medication for depression and while being unable to feel anything at all (apparently a side effect), went up a building and had a good think about jumping off. Decided not to because they worried their younger sibling would feel bad.

I didn't know **** about it until they told me a long time later and I was around them for years. There is absolutely nothing to tell from looking at someone what they've got going on in there.
 
Hotwired said:
On the contrary I think the allegations need to be looked at with enough information to make an informed decision and the BBC is in such a position to obtain it.

There was a scenario earlier with some guy calling grossly inadequate information adequate and I mocked him for his terrible standards of evidence. I thought it was done after about 15 pages but who knows.
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You mocked the actual allegations themselves, don't lie... just blatant downplaying as you just did re the comment about him sending kisses.. though not you seem to be back tracking a bit. Perhaps it has sunk in that this individual seemingly has behaved rather inappropriately.
 
Minusorange said:
Probably expected people to apologise for him because he's now out as a bit gay and depressed
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Damage limitation. A lot of men are a bit gay and depressed, a lot send inappropriate stuff online or through social media to people they shouldn't. Some suffer the consequences and some don't. They probably shouldn't lose their jobs over it though. Doubt I'd lose mine if I was the same but I'm not on TV every night and rightly or wrongly, the rules are different for these people.
 
dowie said:
You mocked the actual allegations themselves, don't lie... just blatant downplaying as you just did re the comment about him sending kisses.. though not you seem to be back tracking a bit. Perhaps it has sunk in that this individual seemingly has behaved rather inappropriately.
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It took you 15 pages to admit a contradictory and edited screenshot was inadequate evidence for the points you tried to make it support. That's back tracking you deserve to be reminded of as the BBC works on its hyper examined investigation which contains... X's presented as a complaint.

I'm looking forward to seeing a better argued claim than what you tried :)
 
Minusorange said:
Then how are addicts able to lose their addiction if it's a physical condition and not purely mental, I used to smoke, I used to lie to myself and say I smoked because I liked it, first time I tried to quit I couldn't, so obviously I was addicted but I'm now smoke free because I chose to take the rough in getting over it, likewise with changing eating habits and losing weight, even though I absolutely hate exercise and love food

Nothing in life is easy, choosing the addiction or depression is taking the easy route and it's an inexcusable and selfish route, that harms not only yourself but others
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I don't think many people (if any) choose to be depressed, or choose not to stop being depressed.

And to say that depressed people are selfish and wilfully hurting themselves and others because they want to remain depressed - well, it's a fairly unique take.
 
dowie said:
Nope they're not just reporting what The Sun said... try to keep up, there are more new allegations now, see another newspaper I'm sure you love:

www.dailymail.co.uk

Huw Edwards hit with fresh claims of 'inappropriate behaviour'

A current employee said messages about their appearance left them with a 'cold shudder', while an ex-staff member said 'late night' messages which included 'kisses' were an 'abuse of power'.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk


You've gotta apply some common sense... was he likely to have (allegedly) only met just one person on the dating app, just (allegedly) slid in flirtatiously to the DM's of just one young lad on Instagram and by sheer chance all those people came forwards within a few days???

Or perhaps those things were just adding more context to the sort of person he is...

So no, it's not just the Sun, now it's the BBC reporting that its own junior staff have been complaining about this guy!
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Can of worms, now it’ll all come out. Once again, we’ve paid for another BBC weirdo. The licence fee should have gone years ago.

One can’t help but feel for his wife and kids.

koolpc said:
I say it because i suffer with depression and anxiety and, it has certainly made me make extremely poor choices in life that, had i been sound in mind, i would not have done!
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The problem here is that you just can’t when your in the spotlight or a position of responsibility. If it was such a problem and he had a moral compass he should have walked away.

I actually think it devalues mental health struggles when he gets caught out and they just immediately play that card.
 
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FoxEye said:
I don't think many people (if any) choose to be depressed, or choose not to stop being depressed.

And to say that depressed people are selfish and wilfully hurting themselves and others because they want to remain depressed - well, it's a fairly unique take.
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That's putting it very kindly, I'd use different words.

I've a friend with depression and they've talked to me about what happens when they have an episode. It's not just something you need to 'get over'. Tell that to his mum that had to resuscitate him when we were younger.
 
Minusorange said:
I mean in this specific instance of what Huw has done, his current depressive episode is the result of the fallout from the choices he made, nobody forced him to message those lads, nobody forced him to break covid restrictions, you'd have to be pretty retarded to be in such a high profile position to not think doing these things that the court of public opinion would consider a scandal isn't potentially going to come and bite you back in the ass

Had everything gone as normal and he not been found out this wouldn't be a thing and he'd still be presenting the news without any manic depression, it's 100% down to his poor choices
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How does that go against what was said earlier?
 
Minusorange said:
...the court of public opinion would consider a scandal...
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This is the real talking point in this thread, IMO. It's hard to believe that these levels of pearl clutching still exist in this day and age. Why are people still so obsessed over what other people do with their genitals; pretending that they all live their perfect, squeaky clean lives.
 
dowie said:
Nope they're not just reporting what The Sun said... try to keep up, there are more new allegations now, see another newspaper I'm sure you love:

www.dailymail.co.uk

Huw Edwards hit with fresh claims of 'inappropriate behaviour'

A current employee said messages about their appearance left them with a 'cold shudder', while an ex-staff member said 'late night' messages which included 'kisses' were an 'abuse of power'.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk


You've gotta apply some common sense... was he likely to have (allegedly) only met just one person on the dating app, just (allegedly) slid in flirtatiously to the DM's of just one young lad on Instagram and by sheer chance all those people came forwards within a few days???

Or perhaps those things were just adding more context to the sort of person he is...

So no, it's not just the Sun, now it's the BBC reporting that its own junior staff have been complaining about this guy!
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Colour me unsurprised.

Watching the BBC and Sky news broadcasts yesterday at around 6pm it was just a constant loop of 'police have found no evidence of unlawful activity ' and there's the sympathy angle 'Huw Edwards in hospital due to depression'. To make things worse Sky had some guest come on say that BBC should drop it's investigation into Huw Edwards :rolleyes:. He was a former TV executive can't remember the name but the mask slipped at that point and and I told my other half he was promoting a cover up.
 
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