What specifically do you think the police have investigated? Because it seems you are getting confused.Eh?
You’ve made multiple claims here that directly contradict the findings of two separate policies forces.
I’m simply asking you to provide whatever evidence has convinced you that these police forces are wrong in their conclusions so far.
This isn’t a trick question…
You're either able to provide that evidence, in which case we can all evaluate it and form our own conclusions, or you can’t; in which case anyone remotely rational should completely dismiss what you’ve said.
The Huw Edwards situation
- Thread starter Participant
- Start date
- Status
Please quote where I said I agree payments were made and where I agreed this led to a crack addiction.
Last edited:
Soldato
- Joined
- 4 Feb 2018
- Posts
- 13,316
I wonder if Alastair Campbell had a hand in that dossier.
Last edited:
There seems to be a bit more to it than that, the BBC seems to have sat on it for a few weeks and not even told Huw about it and the family was allegedly initially fobbed off by the police.
Gotta wonder about their safeguarding procedures etc. when receiving an allegation like this especially given their past form for cover-ups when it comes to their stars. I mean if you get an allegation like this then that's pretty serious, also what was his conduct like within the organisation if he can be seemingly so reckless externally?
Huw Edwards named as BBC presenter in ‘sex pics scandal’ by wife in statement
NEWS anchor Huw Edwards was last night named by his own wife as the presenter at the centre of the BBC scandal — as the corporation revealed fresh allegations against him. Vicky Flind made a shock…
www.thesun.co.uk
In. the other Sun article it seems the family were miffed that even after they'd informed the BBC Huw tried to meet their son at a train station:
We gave BBC testimony about star 'who paid our child for sex pics' 7 WEEKS ago
THE family of the youngster allegedly paid by a presenter for sex pictures last night accused the BBC of ignoring bombshell testimony given seven weeks ago. Emails seen by The Sun show the stepfath…
www.thesun.co.uk
So it seems from the family's perspective they allegedly did do the right thing, contacted the police, contacted the BBC... seemingly saw nothing was done and allegedly learned this guy was still paying their son money, trying to meet him at a station and they're trying to sort out his alleged drugs issue.
Correct, the police have stated that they currently have no evidence of a crime having been committed.
What I’m interested in, is what precisely has convinced @n111ck that that’s untrue?
It’s been an admittedly hard case to follow, but based upon the recent statements from the police, it all seems pretty cut and dried for now, surely?
If new evidence comes to light then I expect the police to reopen the investigation, but until then, why would anyone hold any kind of positive belief on the matter, that isn’t substantiated by evidence?
Last edited:
Soldato
- Joined
- 25 Nov 2005
- Posts
- 12,649
That's just using depression as an excuse, not the cause of the poor choice, you're just **** at making choices, like everyone who says addicitions are diseases, no they're not, addicts are just people with really **** self control and no care for anything else but getting their fix, it's about time we started calling out toxic behaviour instead of trying to normalise it through faux psychology
Just like with Huw, no matter if you think what he did was right or wrong, you cannot do this kind of thing in a job of his profile, it's so stupid, a poor set choices, now he's paying the cost for making those choices, his current depression is a result of the fallout from those choices, not an excuse for making those choices
And as for mental health, I deal everyday with deciding whether to just end or not, so don't try to lecture me on depression
Last edited:
Caporegime
- Joined
- 30 Jul 2013
- Posts
- 29,507
Wrong.
I don't have depression but someone close to me does and I can tell you that events beyond their control have caused it.
Your post actually made me a bit angry, but I won't go in to further details.
Last edited:
Er that question mark means its a question not a statement lol
I think you know the answer to it.
Er I never said that a crime had been committed - why would the sun pass a dossier proving criminality to the BBC rather than the police?
Do you think payments were made or not? Yes or no.
Has any evidence of such been publicly released?
Soldato
- Joined
- 23 May 2006
- Posts
- 7,819
wow! no I really don't think it was!
The Sun have copies of bank statements and a sworn statement from the mum re payments hence the original story - no denials re payments have been forthcoming.
Are you saying that this is all made up?
Soldato
- Joined
- 25 Nov 2005
- Posts
- 12,649
I mean in this specific instance of what Huw has done, his current depressive episode is the result of the fallout from the choices he made, nobody forced him to message those lads, nobody forced him to break covid restrictions, you'd have to be pretty retarded to be in such a high profile position to not think doing these things that the court of public opinion would consider a scandal isn't potentially going to come and bite you back in the ass
Had everything gone as normal and he not been found out this wouldn't be a thing and he'd still be presenting the news without any manic depression, it's 100% down to his poor choices
Last edited:
Have the Sun published them? If not then how can any of us make an informed decision on what they do have, or do not have. Frankly is the Sun a reliable source of information? If you believe every word the Sun says then... well good luck.
Perhaps they have been made. Perhaps they haven't. Until we see the evidence then we can't be sure. Possibly they have. But if they have, then the police have deemed them to be legal transactions (or at least there is no current evidence of illegality).
You really don't understand mental health or depression, if that's your opinion.
You’ve repeatedly stated that the Sun claiming to have passed a dossier of evidence to the BBC is indicative of something having occurred which does not align with the current conclusions of the police.
In response I’ve repeatedly asked you to provide us with whatever has convinced you that this dossier contains evidence beyond that which the police have already themselves evaluated.
Instead of doing so, you seem to be climbing down, and obfuscating by repeatedly responding with unrelated questions yourself.
If I were to consider the likely veracity of your statements on this matter so far, and whether or not your claims and opinions might hold any merit, then this behaviour or yours wouldn’t be a good sign.
Last edited:
There existence is exactly why Huw hasnt and couldn’t deny the story originally.
Soldato
Faux psychology? MRI scans would say there is a difference between healthy brains and addicted brains. No doubt the environment plays a role in this stuff but there is also a biological element to it as well, much like some people like to do skydives (adrenaline junkies) and some people don't.
Last edited:
- Status