The Huw Edwards situation

[Minusorange]

You really don't understand mental health or depression, if that's your opinion.

What I mean is that having depression doesn't cause you to make poor choices, it can be a result of those choices and if you had it under control, those choices can cause it to get out of control, but it in no way causes people to make poor choices, that is just removing an accountability from a person and is entirely wrong

 

[JamesH85]

 

[koolpc]

What I mean is that having depression doesn't cause you to make poor choices, it can be a result of those choices and if you had it under control, those choices can cause it to get out of control, but it in no way causes people to make poor choices, that is just removing an accountability from a person and is entirely wrong

Pure rubbish...

Of course having depression can cause a person to make poor choices!!!

 

[Minusorange]

Of course having depression can cause a person to make poor choices!!!

It's this kind of thinking that makes people think they can make poor choices because of their depression

 

[n111ck]

You’ve repeatedly stated that the Sun claiming to have passed a dossier of evidence to the BBC is indicative of something having occurred which does not align with the current conclusions of the police.

In response I’ve repeatedly asked you to provide us with whatever has convinced you that this dossier contains evidence beyond that which the police have already themselves evaluated.

Instead of doing so, you seem to be climbing down, and obfuscating by repeatedly responding with unrelated questions yourself.

If I were to consider the likely veracity of your statements on this matter so far, then this wouldn’t be a good sign.

No youve made that up in your head.

The BBC are investigating him from a HR perspective for being a perv and bringing the BBC into disrepute - The Sun have provided further evidence to support that. Presumably more examples of creepy behaviour and threats.

 

[Hades]

There existence is exactly why Huw hasnt and couldn’t deny the story originally.

You might be right. You might not be. We simply don't know because unlike us, the police have had the opportunity to look at the available evidence and questiion all parties involved.

But let's assume for a moment that those payments did take place (and that is a distinct possibility - maybe even a probability), the police have so far found no evidence that they were illegal. Until illegal activity is uncovered then this should be a matter for Huw, his family, the alleged victim and their family.

I am reminded of a saying I often try to keep in mind: "Never judge a person until you have walked in their shoes".

 

[Trusty]

It's this kind of thinking that makes people think they can make poor choices because of their depression

Yeah, because so many people want to make poor decisions.

 

[n111ck]

You might be right. You might not be. We simply don't know because unlike us, the police have had the opportunity to look at the available evidence and questiion all parties involved.

But let's assume for a moment that those payments did take place (and that is a distinct possibility - maybe even a probability), the police have so far found no evidence that they were illegal. Until illegal activity is uncovered then this should be a matter for Huw, his family, the alleged victim and their family.

I am reminded of a saying I often try to keep in mind: "Never judge a person until you have walked in their shoes".

From the telegraph..

On Friday, The Sun first published allegationsthat he had given £35,000 to a young person in exchange for “sordid images”.

According to the newspaper, the first payments were made three years ago when the person, who reportedly has a crack cocaine addiction, was said to be just 17.

It is understood more complainants have since contacted The Sun and the newspaper is preparing a dossier to pass to the BBC, which is investigating.

On Tuesday, Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, had urged any other potential complainants to come forward.

 

[n111ck]

He’s just another perv that abused his position - he doesn’t deserve anyone tying themselves in knots to defend him.

 

[Minusorange]

Yeah, because so many people want to make poor decisions.

You've seen the IQ bell curve right ? Most don't realise it's a poor decision until they make it because they're stupid or weak minded or both, nothing to do depression or addicition it's literally all in the mind and down to critical thought and self control or in the case of people you're excusing a distinct lack of it

 

[Hades]

It is understood more complainants have since contacted The Sun and the newspaper is preparing a dossier to pass to the BBC, which is investigating.

That's a separate (but obviously related) issue which I hope the police investigate thoroughly.

On Tuesday, Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, had urged any other potential complainants to come forward.

It is nothing to do with the Prime Minister. It is a matter for the police, the BBC and the parties directly involved. Politicians should stay out of legal matters. Sunak is simply saying that for political gain.

From the telegraph..

On Friday, The Sun first published allegationsthat he had given £35,000 to a young person in exchange for “sordid images”.

According to the newspaper, the first payments were made three years ago when the person, who reportedly has a crack cocaine addiction, was said to be just 17.

Did the Telegraph corroborate the evidence? It doesn't say that at all. It simply says the Sun have published allegations of payments (I will again repeat that we don't know whether those allegations are true but if payments have been made then the police had investigated them and so far have found no criminal actions).

All you have done here is quote that the Telegrath reported that the Sun said something. It adds no further proof.

 

[Hotwired]

All the papers are running the story.

They're just innocently repeating that it's what the Sun said.

Also letting the rent a gobs have a few pages with the words IN MY OPINION carved in stone before they say a single word on the story.

If The Sun burns for this they'll be toasting marshmallows because they covered themselves.

 

[n111ck]

He’s just another perv that abused his position - he doesn’t deserve anyone tying themselves in knots to defend him.

I’ll just reiterate this again.

 

[Trusty]

nothing to do depression or addicition it's literally all in the mind

Literally makes no sense. A depressed/addicted brain has a different chemical make up to a healthy brain.

Addiction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That creates a situation where simple and obvious decisions for a healthy brain becomes harder and less obvious for depressed/addicted brains.

 

[Vandle]

Messing around with jailbait druggies and randoms from dating sites in this digital age when you’re on tv everyday is asking for trouble. Never likely to end well once down that particular rabbit hole. Not sure what other outcome could be expected.

 

[dowie]

All the papers are running the story.

They're just innocently repeating that it's what the Sun said.

Nope they're not just reporting what The Sun said... try to keep up, there are more new allegations now, see another newspaper I'm sure you love:

Huw Edwards hit with fresh claims of 'inappropriate behaviour'

A current employee said messages about their appearance left them with a 'cold shudder', while an ex-staff member said 'late night' messages which included 'kisses' were an 'abuse of power'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Huw Edwards allegedly sent 'inappropriate and flirtacious' messages to BBC colleagues, it has been revealed, as the corporation urged staff with 'any concerns' to come forward.

A current employee said they were left with a 'cold shudder' after receiving messages about their appearance, while an ex-staff member claimed 'late night' texts which included 'kisses' constituted an 'abuse of power' by the newsreader.

Junior staff members told the BBC tonight that the presenter, 61, had sent 'inappropriate messages' to them - but also confirmed that they had not previously officially complained to the corporation.

You've gotta apply some common sense... was he likely to have (allegedly) only met just one person on the dating app, just (allegedly) slid in flirtatiously to the DM's of just one young lad on Instagram and by sheer chance all those people came forwards within a few days???

Or perhaps those things were just adding more context to the sort of person he is...

So no, it's not just the Sun, now it's the BBC reporting that its own junior staff have been complaining about this guy!

 

[Minusorange]

Literally makes no sense. A depressed/addicted brain has a different chemical make up to a healthy brain.

Addiction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That creates a situation where simple and obvious decisions for a healthy brain becomes harder and less obvious for depressed/addicted brains.

Then how are addicts able to lose their addiction if it's a physical condition and not purely mental, I used to smoke, I used to lie to myself and say I smoked because I liked it, first time I tried to quit I couldn't, so obviously I was addicted but I'm now smoke free because I chose to take the rough in getting over it, likewise with changing eating habits and losing weight, even though I absolutely hate exercise and love food

Nothing in life is easy, choosing the addiction or depression is taking the easy route and it's an inexcusable and selfish route, that harms not only yourself but others

 

[Minusorange]

Not sure what other outcome could be expected.

Probably expected people to apologise for him because he's now out as a bit gay and depressed

 

[cu3ed]

Is there any actual evidence of this?....cause..ya know..the Scum.

 

[Trusty]

Then how are addicts able to lose their addiction if it's a physical condition and not purely mental, I used to smoke, I used to lie to myself and say I smoked because I liked it, first time I tried to quit I couldn't, so obviously I was addicted but I'm now smoke free because I chose to take the rough in getting over it, likewise with changing eating habits and losing weight, even though I absolutely hate exercise and love food

Nothing in life is easy, choosing the addiction or depression is taking the easy route and it's an inexcusable and selfish route, that harms not only yourself but others

Because the body and the brain has a remarkable ability to heal. A lot of it is environmental and your surroundings, no doubt about that, but there is a genetic/biological element to it also. If you'd said that then i wouldn't really have a issue. But i think brushing over the fact that someone can be ill and diseased from these afflictions is a bit mad.