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What are the expectations? B580 4060Ti? B770 4070S?
Soldato
Yeah from the rumors it seems,
B570 ~ RTX 4060 Ti
B580 ~ RTX 4070
Hopefully we get some real numbers soon.
*Update, Tech Power up have it lower than that,
Intel Arc B580 Specs
Intel BGM-G21, 2800 MHz, 2560 Cores, 160 TMUs, 80 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2400 MHz, 192 bit
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Don
*Update, Tech Power up have it lower than that,
Oof... not much of an upgrade on the A580 then?
Soldato
Seems odd to release a new card that performs worse than an Arc A770 but costs similar, maybe Tech power up are being conservative?
Isn't that standard for Nvidia? Where step X on the new range performs the same as step X+1 of the old range? But yes, if Techpowerup are to be believed, that performance level for £250 is disappointing: it's competing with the RTX 4060 on price and faring worse.
We'll see in 30 mins.
Soldato
Agreed. It's competing with the RTX 4060 and offering only a little bit more performance for the same price. The B580 needs to be £50 cheaper.
Not great not terrible. If the drivers are good and the reviews are positive they can become a budget option. Although I don’t think these prices will last and we will see a 20/30$ reduction in no time.
A card with 4060+ performance for 220$ and Xess 2, should be a pretty good mid range option.
A card with 4060+ performance for 220$ and Xess 2, should be a pretty good mid range option.
Slightly underwhelming to be honest. It's good that they're catching up on technologies like frame generation at least. What I really want to know is if they have a B750/B770 planned, or if this is it. Because I'm going to start doubting Intel's long-term commitment to Sparkle Motion the discrete GPU business if they're already moving the top card down a full tier.
Don
24% faster than the A750 according to their presentation. In theory that makes it faster than an Arc A770 and somewhere around RTX 4060Ti levels?
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£300 is too much. Still a beta unknown product, god knows much much the higher end model is with 16GB
Don
It isn't £300 (It starts at £248.99)
It isn't really an unknown product (the drivers of the first generation product are now pretty good by all accounts)
And there isn't a 16GB model (A higher end B770 hasn't yet been announced)
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Intel ARC B580 12GB PCI-Express GDDR6 Limited Edition Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-INT-03759) = £248.99
- 1 x Sparkle Intel ARC B580 TITAN OC 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPK-03779) = £259.99
- 1 x ASRock Intel ARC B580 Challenger 12GB OC GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASR-03812) = £278.99
- 1 x ASRock Intel ARC B580 Steel Legend 12GB OC GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASR-03811) = £299.99
Total: £1,095.95 (includes delivery: £7.99)
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If it was really that fast, they would say that. When Alchemist released they compared directly to the 3060, this time they showed the 1660 super.
It's more likely that it corrects some of the problem games of Alchemist, making the percentage increase much larger. Other wise they would just say x% faster than 4060 with 50% more VRAM...
Don
The 1660 Super part you are taking out of context - they compared to that as to what level of performance you previously got for the same $249 the B580 is launching at.
You mean like this official slide that says 10% faster on average than a 4060
Also the slide from the video that said 24% faster than a A750
Edit: Slides are from Guru3D's coverage of the announcement
Intel Announcement Preview: Intel ARC B580 and B570 (BMG-G21 SoC)
Intel has announced the technical specifications for its forthcoming Arc B580 12GB GPU priced 249 USD as well as the ARC B570 10GB at 219 USD, a downgraded version that will be released later in January. The Arc B580 will feature 20 Xe2 cores and 12GB of GDDR6 memory, operating on a 192-bit...
www.guru3d.com
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The 1660 Super part you are taking out of context - they compared to that as to what level of performance you now got for $249.
You mean like this official slide that says 10% faster on average than a 4060
Also the slide from the video that said 24% faster than a A750
The video left out the 4060 slide? Very odd, since it's the most relatable.
Well, there it is. Anyone actually going to buy this?
Don
I'm seriously considering it - need to get a GPU for one of my Kid's for Christmas. Currently they have a 1660, and I'm looking around the £250 mark. So it's either this, a 4060 or a 6650XT.
Soldato
A used RTX 3070 could be a good option too.