The Intel Arc owners thread

[throwaway4372]

Well, there it is. Anyone actually going to buy this?

Maybe.
I'm due a new system and don't game as much as I used to - so I'm looking for a more budget-friendly gpu.
I'll still wait until the B7** and AMD/Nvidia releases, I'll be considering all options.

 

[hornetstinger]

It isn't £300 (It starts at £248.99)
It isn't really an unknown product (the drivers of the first generation product are now pretty good by all accounts)
And there isn't a 16GB model (A higher end B770 hasn't yet been announced)

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel ARC B580 12GB PCI-Express GDDR6 Limited Edition Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-INT-03759) = £248.99
• 1 x Sparkle Intel ARC B580 TITAN OC 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPK-03779) = £259.99
• 1 x ASRock Intel ARC B580 Challenger 12GB OC GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASR-03812) = £278.99
• 1 x ASRock Intel ARC B580 Steel Legend 12GB OC GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASR-03811) = £299.99

Total: £1,095.95 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

Would rather have 7800XT for a bit more (£100) triple fan cooler, and better drivers. More VRAM.

Drivers make or break these cards, with nvidia / amd they have long history of GPU's. I'd be tempted £250 for 16GB GPU, something that comes along and smashes the competition.

 

[SuperElectric]

If the 7600 XT, (which has 16gb VRAM and is also slightly faster than the 4060), dropped to £250, would that be a better buy than the B580?

 

[Armageus]

Would rather have 7800XT for a bit more (£100) triple fan cooler, and better drivers. More VRAM.

A 7800XT is £200 more... , A 7700XT is £110 more but has the same amount of VRAM.

If the 7600 XT, (which has 16gb VRAM and is also slightly faster than the 4060), dropped to £250, would that be a better buy than the B580?

It's a big if, but yes without a doubt. (Although not really because of the 16GB, but because the 7600XT is a more mature product overall)

 

[hornetstinger]

A 7800XT is £200 more... , A 7700XT is £110 more but has the same amount of VRAM.


It's a big if, but yes without a doubt. (Although not really because of the 16GB, but because the 7600XT is a more mature product overall)

triple fan intel £300
7800XT triple fan was £400.

extra ram and better drivers probably worth the extra

7700XT is £360, so only £60 more, and again better drivers. ALthough worth going from 7700xt to 7800XT average 20fps extra.

 

[Armageus]

triple fan intel £300

Triple fan Intel is £260, and not sure why you particularly would need a triple fan for such a low-end card anyway?


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Sparkle Intel ARC B580 TITAN OC 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPK-03779) = £259.99

Total: £263.99 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

 

[hornetstinger]

Triple fan Intel is £260, and not sure why you particularly would need a triple fan for such a low-end card anyway?


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Sparkle Intel ARC B580 TITAN OC 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPK-03779) = £259.99

Total: £263.99 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

that page needs updating it says 12GB and 16GB of RAM

 

[Quartz]

Live at OcUK:

Sorry, but pending further testing, it's just too expensive - unless you're going to jack the price of the RTX 4060. Make the B580 a £199 card. I hope the B750 and B770 are more competitively priced.

 

[Armageus]

Unboxing / Preview here

Intel Arc B580 Battlemage Unboxing & Preview

The next generation of Intel GPUs is here with the Arc Battlemage-based B580. Priced at $249, the new card promises strong midrange capabilities, making it ideal for 1440p gaming. We go hands on with the Arc B580 in our preview and also have some performance numbers for you.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[SuperElectric]

Interesting opinions, the margins are really close.

It's probably OK for now, but if NVIDIA/AMD do anything at all in the £250- £300 range next year, then Intel will be in a tough spot and prices will have to come down.

 

[Joxeon]

Intel really need to bring 4070 perf for £250 if they want to shake up the market, slight faster than a 4060 which should have been a £200 card at release is just not good enough unfortunately

 

[Nothin]

Not saying they're bad value for money but I honestly can't see what Intel's intention is with these two cards, if they were serious about taking actual market share they'd have to offer more for less, even selling at a loss in the short term to establish themselves as a valid option is an acceptable business practice (Epic store).
The only intention I can see is to sell a few cards to diehard anti Nvidia/AMD people.

 

[Quartz]

Intel really need to bring 4070 perf for £250 if they want to shake up the market,

That will be Nvidia's 5060 next year. Hopefully Intel will see sense and cut the B580 to £199 and put the B750 at £249 with the A770 at £349.

if they were serious about taking actual market share they'd have to offer more for less,

Agreed.

Nvidia have the mindshare, so it's not good enough to perform modestly better for the same price. There's things like Nvidia Broadcast and RT Voice to consider. Plus the whole software ecosystem is rigged to Nvidia - Cuda, for example - but more significantly, if a game doesn't perform with Nvidia GPUs it's the game's problem but if a game doesn't perform with an Intel GPU it's Intel's problem.

A basic problem is that Intel's launch has marked the RTX 4060 as being $299 and the B580 as $249 whereas they're the same price over here.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Palit GeForce RTX 4060 StormX 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-078-PL) = £248.99
• 1 x Intel ARC B580 12GB PCI-Express GDDR6 Limited Edition Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-INT-03759) = £248.99

Total: £501.97 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

And I think Intel are right - at a $50 / £50 differential, the B580 is decent - but here in the UK they're wrong the price differential isn't there.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Well that 12gb vs 8gb would swing me towards intel with drivers that are in good shape now.

 

[mahius]

Gotta ask how the Intel cards do with Hardware transcoding on something like a Plex server? A cheap intel could come in handy for an upcoming server build, if its decently capable.

 

[no_1_dave]

Gotta ask how the Intel cards do with Hardware transcoding on something like a Plex server? A cheap intel could come in handy for an upcoming server build, if its decently capable.

The GPU inside Intel's CPUs can transcode multiple 4k plex streams with ease. There is no need for a dedicated GPU in a plex server.

 

[hornetstinger]

excellent points from dan regarding how Intel have slanted the results

 

[DarrenM343]

Not saying they're bad value for money but I honestly can't see what Intel's intention is with these two cards, if they were serious about taking actual market share they'd have to offer more for less, even selling at a loss in the short term to establish themselves as a valid option is an acceptable business practice (Epic store).
The only intention I can see is to sell a few cards to diehard anti Nvidia/AMD people.

Or those who welcome a third competitor, maybe? AMD seem to have dropped gunning for top end GPU's but maybe Intel are working up to it, slowly .
From a quick skim of info, RT performance seems to be where the new Intel GPU's outperform?

 

[Joxeon]

That will be Nvidia's 5060 next year. Hopefully Intel will see sense and cut the B580 to £199 and put the B750 at £249 with the A770 at £349.

No chance Nvidia are going to give 4070 performance on a $300 5060, the 4060 was nowhere near a 3060ti let alone a 3070. Intel probably know this hence their pricing.

 

[Quartz]

No chance Nvidia are going to give 4070 performance on a $300 5060, the 4060 was nowhere near a 3060ti let alone a 3070. Intel probably know this hence their pricing.

That, I think, will depend upon the competition from AMD and Intel.