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The Intel Arc owners thread

Armageus said:
It isn't £300 (It starts at £248.99)
It isn't really an unknown product (the drivers of the first generation product are now pretty good by all accounts)
And there isn't a 16GB model (A higher end B770 hasn't yet been announced)

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,095.95 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
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Would rather have 7800XT for a bit more (£100) triple fan cooler, and better drivers. More VRAM.

Drivers make or break these cards, with nvidia / amd they have long history of GPU's. I'd be tempted £250 for 16GB GPU, something that comes along and smashes the competition.
 
Intel ARC B580 12GB PCI-Express GDDR6 Limited Edition Graphics Card
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Sparkle Intel ARC B580 TITAN OC 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
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ASRock Intel ARC B580 Challenger 12GB OC GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
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£279 (incl. VAT)
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ASRock Intel ARC B580 Steel Legend 12GB OC GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
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hornetstinger said:
Would rather have 7800XT for a bit more (£100) triple fan cooler, and better drivers. More VRAM.
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A 7800XT is £200 more... , A 7700XT is £110 more but has the same amount of VRAM.

SuperElectric said:
If the 7600 XT, (which has 16gb VRAM and is also slightly faster than the 4060), dropped to £250, would that be a better buy than the B580?
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It's a big if, but yes without a doubt. (Although not really because of the 16GB, but because the 7600XT is a more mature product overall)
 
Armageus said:
A 7800XT is £200 more... , A 7700XT is £110 more but has the same amount of VRAM.


It's a big if, but yes without a doubt. (Although not really because of the 16GB, but because the 7600XT is a more mature product overall)
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triple fan intel £300
7800XT triple fan was £400.

extra ram and better drivers probably worth the extra

7700XT is £360, so only £60 more, and again better drivers. ALthough worth going from 7700xt to 7800XT average 20fps extra.
 
Interesting opinions, the margins are really close.

It's probably OK for now, but if NVIDIA/AMD do anything at all in the £250- £300 range next year, then Intel will be in a tough spot and prices will have to come down.
 
Intel really need to bring 4070 perf for £250 if they want to shake up the market, slight faster than a 4060 which should have been a £200 card at release is just not good enough unfortunately
 
Not saying they're bad value for money but I honestly can't see what Intel's intention is with these two cards, if they were serious about taking actual market share they'd have to offer more for less, even selling at a loss in the short term to establish themselves as a valid option is an acceptable business practice (Epic store).
The only intention I can see is to sell a few cards to diehard anti Nvidia/AMD people.
 
Joxeon said:
Intel really need to bring 4070 perf for £250 if they want to shake up the market,
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That will be Nvidia's 5060 next year. Hopefully Intel will see sense and cut the B580 to £199 and put the B750 at £249 with the A770 at £349.

Nothin said:
if they were serious about taking actual market share they'd have to offer more for less,
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Agreed.

Nvidia have the mindshare, so it's not good enough to perform modestly better for the same price. There's things like Nvidia Broadcast and RT Voice to consider. Plus the whole software ecosystem is rigged to Nvidia - Cuda, for example - but more significantly, if a game doesn't perform with Nvidia GPUs it's the game's problem but if a game doesn't perform with an Intel GPU it's Intel's problem.

A basic problem is that Intel's launch has marked the RTX 4060 as being $299 and the B580 as $249 whereas they're the same price over here.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £501.97 (includes delivery: £3.99)​


And I think Intel are right - at a $50 / £50 differential, the B580 is decent - but here in the UK they're wrong the price differential isn't there.
 
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Gotta ask how the Intel cards do with Hardware transcoding on something like a Plex server? A cheap intel could come in handy for an upcoming server build, if its decently capable.
 
mahius said:
Gotta ask how the Intel cards do with Hardware transcoding on something like a Plex server? A cheap intel could come in handy for an upcoming server build, if its decently capable.
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The GPU inside Intel's CPUs can transcode multiple 4k plex streams with ease. There is no need for a dedicated GPU in a plex server.
 
Nothin said:
Not saying they're bad value for money but I honestly can't see what Intel's intention is with these two cards, if they were serious about taking actual market share they'd have to offer more for less, even selling at a loss in the short term to establish themselves as a valid option is an acceptable business practice (Epic store).
The only intention I can see is to sell a few cards to diehard anti Nvidia/AMD people.
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Or those who welcome a third competitor, maybe? AMD seem to have dropped gunning for top end GPU's but maybe Intel are working up to it, slowly :D .
From a quick skim of info, RT performance seems to be where the new Intel GPU's outperform?
 
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