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4060ti performance I reckon, wishes for for circa 4070 fps, I would bite at that.
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I think the B580 acheiving 4070 performance is a little farfetched, but even if it did, how much does that matter?
A 4070 today is under £500, a 4060Ti 16GB is £420, 4060Ti 8GB is £320. AMD's equivalent (in raster) is the 7800XT at £450, the 7700XT is £350. All OCUK prices, maybe you can pay less elsewhere.
Assuming the next gen of both NVIDIA and AMD improves price/performance by just one tier, then maybe the B580 will be OK. If NVIDIA is at £400-ish, AMD at £350, and Intel at £260, then it looks like a bargain (sort of).
However, if the B580 is 10-15% slower than the 4070 on average, which puts it closer to 4060Ti performance, then it's DOA, because better/cheaper cards are only 3 months away. Even the 4060Ti 8GB and 7700XT would only need to drop another 10%, before they're equal to (or better than) the B580.
Intel still have a lot of work to do
A 4070 today is under £500, a 4060Ti 16GB is £420, 4060Ti 8GB is £320. AMD's equivalent (in raster) is the 7800XT at £450, the 7700XT is £350. All OCUK prices, maybe you can pay less elsewhere.
Assuming the next gen of both NVIDIA and AMD improves price/performance by just one tier, then maybe the B580 will be OK. If NVIDIA is at £400-ish, AMD at £350, and Intel at £260, then it looks like a bargain (sort of).
However, if the B580 is 10-15% slower than the 4070 on average, which puts it closer to 4060Ti performance, then it's DOA, because better/cheaper cards are only 3 months away. Even the 4060Ti 8GB and 7700XT would only need to drop another 10%, before they're equal to (or better than) the B580.
Intel still have a lot of work to do
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Nvidia aint giving you 4070/4060ti fps and 12gb for £250.
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Yeah they're either giving you bottom of the barrel performance or skimp on the VRAM instead for that money.
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They're giving you 4060Ti 8GB at £320 today? Unless it goes up in price
Lets say NVIDIA next gen does 4060Ti performance with 12GB for £300. Are you really going to buy the B580 to save maybe £40?
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What drugs are you taking, where Nvidia are offering their 4060TI replacement for even close to that price?
New card = more money. Can't be offering a performance bump without extra money being charged.
New card = more money. Can't be offering a performance bump without extra money being charged.
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Well it will put to the test this theory that AMD/Intel are the reason nvidia be nvidia. We are led to believe its the competitions fault every time. If intel and AMD this gen pump out cheaper cards with reasonable performance.. yet people still end up 80% buying nvidia cards we can put that one to bed.
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I guess we'll have to see what happens. Because if both Intel and AMD move forward by one tier (or more) while NVIDIA stands still, that would make their cards stonking great deals
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The disturbing trend is the price of nvidia cards maintains or goes up, and the specification of the product is weaker than before. If they call it a 4070 but its really a 4060Ti your getting a diluted product over time which I guess is what they hope you do not notice.
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"Intel Arc B580/B570 and AMD Navi 44 may reportedly win with RTX 4060 Ti in synthetic tests"
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Intel Arc B580/B570 and AMD Navi 44 may reportedly win with RTX 4060 Ti in synthetic tests - VideoCardz.com
Smaller next-gen GPUs from Intel and AMD can beat RTX 4060 Ti by points The focus on the upper mid-range segment. When it comes to next-gen graphics, everyone is asking the same questions: how fast is it, how many cores does it have, does it have more than 8GB VRAM, and how much does it […]
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So should we expect an Intel Arc B770 at some point in the future?
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Intel Arc B570 specs leaked: 18 Xe2-Cores, 10GB memory and PCIe 4.0x8 - VideoCardz.com
Intel Arc B570 has 10GB memory, confirms spec sheet from ASRock Almost full specs of Battlemage GPUs have been leaked. Following the disclosure of the Intel Arc Battlemage Limited Edition series, a new leak reveals almost the entire specs of the Arc Battlemage lineup. As we exclusively reported...
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Intel Arc B570 specs leaked: 18 Xe2-Cores, 10GB memory and PCIe 4.0x8 - VideoCardz.com
Intel Arc B570 has 10GB memory, confirms spec sheet from ASRock Almost full specs of Battlemage GPUs have been leaked. Following the disclosure of the Intel Arc Battlemage Limited Edition series, a new leak reveals almost the entire specs of the Arc Battlemage lineup. As we exclusively reported...
B580 and B570 8X PCIe 4 lanes, that should tell you this isn't a 4070 or higher.
But they should tell us the performance we can expect from the B770.
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True...
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Reviewer shows ASRock Arc B580 Steel Legend in first hands-on look at Intel Battlemage GPU - VideoCardz.com
ASRock B580 review samples already in reviewer’s hands Early sampling indicates that both Intel and ASRock seem confident about their new product. Yes, it appears that Intel has already distributed samples of the Arc B580 graphics card for testing. This means reviewers now have two weeks to...
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