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The Intel Arc owners thread

Freddie1980 said:
I'd like to believe Intel is holding back in B7XX card to see how the market responds to the B580/70 first and if there would be enough demand and people are comfortable buying graphics cards from Intel.
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Maybe. There are rumours that Intel are cancelling the Arc project and they won't release anything past the 580. I did notice that in one of the interviews given by the Intel engineer (maybe with HUB) he said that the next generation of hardware is fully finished and ready to go. This might just be in the normal schedule but I also wandered whether there won't be a higher version of this generation because the next gen will launch earlier that they originally expected.
 
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freebooter said:
Maybe. There are rumours that Intel are cancelling the Arc project and they won't release anything past the 580. I did notice that in one of the interviews given by the Intel engineer (maybe with HUB) he said that the next generation of hardware is fully finished and ready to go. This might just be in the normal schedule but I also wandered whether there won't be a higher version of this generation because the next gen will launch earlier that they originally expected.
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I don't believe ARC is going away, but they may limit their consumer dGPU offerings. If Celestial offers additional improvements in perf/area, given the good reception of the B580 they could release something is the same or slightly more expensive price range and win some real mindshare, while at the same time improving their margins.

ARC will be very important for laptop and fending off competition from QC and AMD plus it's a very important part of any serious AI initiative. CUDA build it's popularity mostly through pro/high end consumer parts at the beggining, Intel needs to focus on provinding more or less cheap GPUs with 24GB of VRAM to get more people using Intel SW. The more people you "train" now, reduces friction for future adoption in the corporate space.
 
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My B580 has arrived. I get a nice improvement in Horizon Zero Dawn benchmark but the Tomb Raider benchmark crashes.
 
Quartz said:
Hardware Canucks allege a huge problem:


Unfortunately they didn't do their research:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000096161/graphics.html
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Except if you actually watch the video, it's not related to Rebar/SAM at all, but seems to be a CPU performance limitation causing bigger overheads on Intel cards compared to AMD/Intel

There's a further video that was linked in the other Intel thread:

will0hlep said:
This might be worth watching for some people on here.

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Quartz said:
Did I say that the issue was REBAR-related? Intel's document is plain as day. Did you bother to read it?
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Clearly you didn't as all it is listing is platforms that Intel have listed as compatible with Rebar/SAM. (which clearly there are others, including those tested by Hardware Canucks / Hardware Unboxed)
 
Armageus said:
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Clearly you didn't as all it is listing is platforms that Intel have listed as compatible with Rebar/SAM. (which clearly there are others, including those tested by Hardware Canucks / Hardware Unboxed)
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Nope. The lowest supported CPU is 'Most AMD Ryzen 3000 series processors'. I don't see mention of Ryzen 2000 series processors on that page.

And

Intel said:
Additional information
For configurations not listed in this guide, there may be performance or stability issues. We recommend upgrading to one of the configurations listed for optimal performance with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.
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Quartz said:
Nope. The lowest supported CPU is 'Most AMD Ryzen 3000 series processors'. I don't see mention of Ryzen 2000 series processors on that page.
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And that's an utter cop out, purely as they aren't going to test and validate every single platform/cpu combination dating back years.

AMD 400 Series motherboards e.g. B450 aren't on that list, but almost all of them received updates to support SAM (Whether with a Ryzen 5000 Series, but also with 3000 and even 2000 series).
 
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Armageus said:
but almost all of them received updates to support SAM (Whether with a Ryzen 5000 Series, but also with 3000 and even 2000 series).
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And as you have noted, the issue appears to be nothing to do with SAM. So please stop trying to flog that dead donkey.
 
Quartz said:
And as you have noted, the issue appears to be nothing to do with SAM. So please stop trying to flog that dead donkey.
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I'm not flogging any donkey, horse or anything else.

You were the one who linked an Intel compatibility list that specifically references ReBar/SAM. There are no supported configurations on that list that don't have Rebar/SAM enabled.


I get it, you've bought an Intel card and don't want to hear that there's potentially an issue, but hiding behind a "well it's not on the supported list what do you expect" is insufferable.

Could you imagine if Nvidia or AMD did the same, or motherboard manufacturers religiously enforced their RAM QVL lists?
 
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