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The Intel Arc owners thread

Armageus said:
You were the one who linked an Intel compatibility list that specifically references ReBar/SAM.
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Just because the page references REBAR / SAM doesn't mean that the page is purely about REBAR / SAM. Intel 8th gen supports REBAR but that's not mentioned on the page.

What we need testers to do is find out if this issue is present on supported platforms. If it isn't then we need to hope that Intel extends support to unsupported platforms.
 
Quartz said:
Just because the page references REBAR / SAM doesn't mean that the page is purely about REBAR / SAM. Intel 8th gen supports REBAR but that's not mentioned on the page.

What we need testers to do is find out if this issue is present on supported platforms. If it isn't then we need to hope that Intel extends support to unsupported platforms.
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I think you're misunderstanding what driver overhead really means. It's not about a specific platform or CPU, it's about CPU performance.

Both NVIDIA and AMD also have driver overhead issues, it's just they are not noticeable enough to be discussed most of the time. HUB actually had a video where you could see the differences between NVIDIA and AMD (NVIDIA overhead hit the CPU limit first), I'll try and find it.

Think about it, how much faster is the Ryzen 3600 (on the Intel official supported list) compared to the 2600? Is that really enough to completely eliminate the problem?

It's doesn't change the B580 much, it's just something else to think about.

It would be good to see benchmarks for the 12100/13100, 3600, 5600, and maybe the 12400, to get better clarity.
 
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New driver released on 2nd January 25 >> https://downloadmirror.intel.com/844120/ReleaseNotes_101.6449_101.6256_WHQL.pdf

Download link:
www.intel.com

Intel® Arc™ & Iris® Xe Graphics - Windows*

This download installs Intel® Graphics Driver 32.0.101.6449/32.0.101.101.6256 for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.
www.intel.com www.intel.com

Also see here: https://www.techpowerup.com/330471/intel-arc-gpu-graphics-drivers-101-6449-whql-released

Date: January 2, 2025

Driver Version: 32.0.101.6449 WHQL and 32.0.101.6256 WHQL

Highlights:
  • Launch driver for Intel Core Processor N-series and Series 2 (Codename Twin Lake, Raptor Lake-H Refresh, Raptor Lake-U Refresh).
Fixed Issues:
Intel Arc B-Series Graphics Products:
  • Skull and Bones (DX12) may experience an application crash while launching gameplay.
  • Certain capture cards may exhibit visual artifacts in some scenarios.
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege (DX12) may experience lower than expected performance.
Intel Core Ultra Series 1 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
  • Call of Duty Modern Warfare III (DX12) may experience flickering during gameplay.
Intel Core Ultra Series 2 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (DX12) may exhibit black shadow corruption in certain scenes during gameplay.
Known Issues:
Intel Arc B-Series Graphics Products:
  • F1 24 (DX12) with XeSS FG may exhibit certain corruptions and applications crashes
  • Application may crash when dynamically changing XeSS FG settings during gameplay. Recommendation is to toggle XeSS FG settings in the game menu before starting a race.
  • "Alt + Enter" shortcut may change the display mode to fullscreen exclusive, which is not supported in XeSS 2 and may cause the game to crash.
  • MLPerf may exhibit intermittent errors when running on multi-GPU system configurations. It is recommended to disable integrated GPU as a workaround.
  • Topaz Labs Photo AI may exhibit corruptions with certain image enhancement operations.
  • Magix Vegas Pro may exhibit corruptions when using style transfer feature.
  • Dassault Systèmes CATIA may experience an application crash when using HQAO option.
  • Adobe Lightroom Classic may experience lower than expected performance. Workaround is to set recommended preferences in the application
  • Under Edit, Preferences, Performance options, choose Graphics Processor as "Custom"
  • Select "Use GPU for Display", "Use GPU for Image Processing" and "Use GPU for Export" options.
Intel Arc A-Series Graphics Products:
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (DX12) may exhibit darker than expected shadows in certain campaign scenarios.
  • Topaz Gigapixel AI may experience intermittent crash while exporting images.
  • Intel Core Ultra Series 1 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
  • PugetBench for Davinci Resolve Studio V19 may experience errors intermittently with benchmark preset set to Extended.
  • Davinci Resolve Studio v19.0 may experience errors while rendering OpenVino test scenarios.
  • Topaz Video AI may experience corruption when exporting videos after using some models for video enhancements
  • Intel Core Ultra Series 2 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
  • Adobe Premiere Pro may exhibit corruption in the output video after performing 8K AV1 Encode.
  • PugetBench for Davinci Resolve Studio V19 may experience errors intermittently with benchmark preset set to Extended.
  • Davinci Resolve Studio v19.0 may experience issues while rendering certain OpenVino test scenarios.
  • Davinci Resolve Studio v19.0 may experience errors intermittently while rendering certain AI/ML scenarios.
  • Topaz Video AI may experience corruption when exporting videos after using some models for video enhancements.
  • Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (DX12) may experience crash during gameplay with frame generation enabled.
Intel Graphics Software Fixed Issues:
  • On some system configurations the frequency of windows reconfiguration in IGS is higher than expected and may take longer after sleep.
Intel Graphics Software Known Issues:
  • Intel Graphics Software may experience a very intermittent application crash when navigating pages or dialogue boxes due to an underlying framework issue. A fix will be made available in IGS once WinAppSDK 1.7 is available for upgrade. The application can be re-launched without issue as a workaround.
  • When using the settings, preferences, reset all settings option in Windows 10 the application may experience an intermittent crash. Settings can be reset from individual pages without issue.
  • Intel Graphics Software may sometimes experience a single application crash on the first re-arrange of metrics within the select metrics window. Subsequent usage will not be affected by this crash again.
  • FPS Limiter may not limit FPS with VSync ON and Low Latency Mode enabled.
  • Profile controls don't always supersede global controls.
  • Display scaling at non-native panel resolutions might result in unintended scaling.
  • Intel Graphics Software Performance Tuning (BETA):
    • Intel Graphics Software Performance Tuning is currently in Beta. As such, performance and features may behave unexpectedly. Intel will continue to refine the Performance Tuning software in future releases.
    • In multi-GPU scenarios with two performance tuning capable devices, the performance tuning page may attempt to apply changes to one or more devices at once rather than individually based on the GPU selector.
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In regards to driver overhead, I briefly ran my A770 on a Ryzen 1400 for a while, when I sold off my previous 12400 setup. It wasn't amazing, but it didn't have me crying, don't feel I'd have been having an infinitely better time on an AMD or Nvidia card.
As someone mentioned, we saw the same sort of thing from HUB a couple years back on Nvidia driver overhead. No-one really seemed to care then.

There will definitely be more performance gained over time through Intel drivers, but for now I guess just don't buy Arc cards for old setups. I am more interested to see if we get a proper Intel response to it. Public outrage will hopefully result in solid fixes.

Might be a controversial opinion, but I would never really be recommending any new GPU upgrade, for anyone running quite old CPUs. Ryzen 1000/2000 were never exactly single core performance powerhouses. Buy a new CPU first...
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
In regards to driver overhead, I briefly ran my A770 on a Ryzen 1400 for a while, when I sold off my previous 12400 setup. It wasn't amazing, but it didn't have me crying, don't feel I'd have been having an infinitely better time on an AMD or Nvidia card.
As someone mentioned, we saw the same sort of thing from HUB a couple years back on Nvidia driver overhead. No-one really seemed to care then.

There will definitely be more performance gained over time through Intel drivers, but for now I guess just don't buy Arc cards for old setups. I am more interested to see if we get a proper Intel response to it. Public outrage will hopefully result in solid fixes.

Might be a controversial opinion, but I would never really be recommending any new GPU upgrade, for anyone running quite old CPUs. Ryzen 1000/2000 were never exactly single core performance powerhouses. Buy a new CPU first...
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Anything slower than the 9800x3d is effected, including the 7600 and 5600. Anytime you see the B580 lose to the 4060 in a benchmark, it's specifically due to the driver overhead, meaning it gets much worse as the CPU gets slower.


Imo the B580 is DOA, I could never recommend ARC to anyone with this serious of an issue.

33% drop in Spiderman going from 9800x3d to 7600? Disgraceful.

It's a testament to the work NVIDIA and AMD have put into their drivers when you see their cards completely unfazed as the CPU gets slower. Rock solid performance from the 4060, even with a 5600. The B580 gets obliterated.

HUB is actually going to re-review the B580 with a 5600 CPU, which should hopefully put pressure on Intel.
 
SuperElectric said:
Anything slower than the 9800x3d is effected, including the 7600 and 5600. Anytime you see the B580 lose to the 4060 in a benchmark, it's specifically due to the driver overhead, meaning it gets much worse as the CPU gets slower.


Imo the B580 is DOA, I could never recommend ARC to anyone with this serious of an issue.

33% drop in Spiderman going from 9800x3d to 7600? Disgraceful.

It's a testament to the work NVIDIA and AMD have put into their drivers when you see their cards completely unfazed as the CPU gets slower. Rock solid performance from the 4060, even with a 5600. The B580 gets obliterated.

HUB is actually going to re-review the B580 with a 5600 CPU, which should hopefully put pressure on Intel.
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The weird thing was that reviewers just ignored this problem despite it already being a prominent issue with Alchemist. It's like they were too busy trying to create a narrative that they didn't bother to actually test it against the pitfalls of the previous gen, and Intel were probably all too happy to see that being overlooked too. Intel's GPU designs are simply not good enough architecturally, the big 272mm2 die size for a 5nm class low end GPU was already a big red flag. The whole thing reeks that they again messed up big time, but at least this time around they were savvy enough to market it as a lower-tier GPU, as opposed to the A750/770 where they were trying to pretend to be giving you mid-range at lower pricing.
 
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