*** The iPhone 3G Thread ***

Stinky said:
if i was now to register my sim card (from the v1) and start a £45 contract (thinking of going back to contract anyway) whats stopping me then going into O2 picking up my free V2 and then selling that on ebay whilst keeping my original V1.

pocket myself £400??
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possibly nothing but I'd read the small print VERY carefully :)
 
I want one. I watched the conference about it on the website last night and was very impressed. I have never seen or used a v1 however.

Sadly, im on an Orange contract, have been for about 5 years. Im pretty sure my renewal has been and gone but I haven't taken an upgrade nor asked to continue my contract so not sure how it all works. Wish they had contract begin/end dates on your online accoount.

Deffo interested in getting one at launch with O2 as Orange have been crap lately. How painful will it be to move over to O2 considering the above?
 
Dup said:
Sadly, im on an Orange contract, have been for about 5 years. Im pretty sure my renewal has been and gone but I haven't taken an upgrade nor asked to continue my contract so not sure how it all works. Wish they had contract begin/end dates on your online accoount.

Deffo interested in getting one at launch with O2 as Orange have been crap lately. How painful will it be to move over to O2 considering the above?
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You're probably in luck. If the original contract was 12 months, once you're past that 12 months you can leave any time you like (albeit probably with 30 days notice). If you haven't renewed (changed contract, got a new phone) then you can still leave when you like.

Phone up and ask for a PAC code, give that to O2 When you go in to buy the iPhone and your number will be transferred too.
 
matt100 said:
the word on the street is the prepay 8GB will be £350.

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/O2_takes_box_breaking_precautions_on_3G_iPhone.html

and to be perfectly honest we (the people who bought the v1 and never connected it) have ourselves to thank :)

Actually thats not quite true, the problem is in search of unlocking/jailbreaking we have inadvertantly opened the iphone up to massive box breaking issues which I'm sure they are going to stamp on quite hard this time.

That said.. £350 for a prepay iphone... is that so bad? the standard N95 is £379
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£350 is not so bad, especially if you get a good price for your V1 and put the money towards it.
 
iSam said:
£350 is not so bad, especially if you get a good price for your V1 and put the money towards it.
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If you want the best price, I think the time to sell the v1 is now (or earlier, if you've discovered time travel!)

Once the v2 is out at £350, say, and it's unlocked, people aren't going to be quite as willing to spend £250 on the old one.
 
Stinky said:
if i was now to register my sim card (from the v1) and start a £45 contract (thinking of going back to contract anyway) whats stopping me then going into O2 picking up my free V2 and then selling that on ebay whilst keeping my original V1.

pocket myself £400??
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my OH works at o2, apparantly there going to start doing the contracts/upgrades instore though so that your sim is registered to the new phone and can transfer the services (e.g. cloud is mac locked).
 
paddyuk said:
my OH works at o2, apparantly there going to start doing the contracts/upgrades instore though so that your sim is registered to the new phone and can transfer the services (e.g. cloud is mac locked).
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They told me the same thing today when i asked about just buying a V2 then activating the contract through i-tunes ;)

So how the PAYG will work I don't know :confused:

They had one 16gb V1 left but wouldn't budge on price :(
 
you know, this locking business is actually.. if I remember correctly.. totally illegal.

And if not illegal it's certainly very close to it, something to do with restricting you from using the service that you wish IF you have paid for the handset. Hence why prepay handsets and end of contract handsets pretty much HAVE to be able to be unlocked.

Oftel (as it was) stipulated that operators could charge an admin fee of no more than £35 iirc.

So really once they launch a prepay version you should be able to purchase AND unlock it perfectly legitimately.

That said Apple don't strike me as being terribly interested or concerned with legalities or the "normal" way of doing business.

In fact I'm quite happy they've gone down the subsidy route, regardless of how its chopped off one route to a reasonably priced iphone and no matter how they dress it up as consumer choice it does go to show they badly misjudged the UK market which is quite arrogant tbh.

Baffling also in the sense that a "free" iphone does give them a much bigger chance of taking an even bigger chunk of the MP3 market along with a phat chunk of the mobile market and lets be honest, more of us have mobiles than mp3 players and lots more of us have mp3 player than have ibooks/macbooks etc.

Bottom line is the iphone is their route to world domination.
 
oh no.. ignore me

from wiki

In the United Kingdom, cellphone network providers don't have to provide unlocking codes at all even after the end of the contract --- see O2's position of not providing unlocking codes for the iPhone at the end of the contract. The alternative to an unlocked handset is a sim free mobile phone. A sim free mobile phone is a phone that comes unlocked and is not branded on any network such as Vodafone, O2, Orange etc.
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I thought they'd changed it and would have happily referenced Vodafones recent relaxing of locking regulations.

That said I do think its a bit of a silly idea anyway, all you do is push your customers towards market stalls and backstreet dealers who are more than happy to sell fake/grey accessories, unregistered prepay sims and box broken handsets.

It all seems a bit counter productive.

If you knew the lengths some of these networks go to combating box breaking you'd possibly be shocked.
 
It's all about making as much money as possible. By not releasing unlock codes, they can hold you down to that provider.

It's pretty poor.

In Germany, it's illegal to sell a phone tied to just a contract. That's why a PAYG V1 iPhone was avaliable over there.
 
BigRoger said:
is it true you cant transfer files from the iphone to other mobiles and vice versa using the bluetooth in the phone.
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Yes - or you'd be sending all your mp3s around, which apple wouldn't want. iTunes, iTunes, iTunes.....

Bit like MS added WiFi to the Zune and then put horrific restrictions on sending files to other people.
 
csmager said:
Yes - or you'd be sending all your mp3s around, which apple wouldn't want. iTunes, iTunes, iTunes.....

Bit like MS added WiFi to the Zune and then put horrific restrictions on sending files to other people.
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Which always made me wonder 'whats the point?'

I guess it looks good in the advertising
 
carlazai said:
Which always made me wonder 'whats the point?'

I guess it looks good in the advertising
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It did sync by Wi-Fi with the latest software update - so that was quite useful. Anyway... going off topic with that one! Suffice to say since buying my iPhone, I haven't used the Zune at all. Even if it does have 10x the storage.
 
I wonder, what would stop you buying a totally SIM free one from Australia and using it on UK networks?

Doesn't bother me, I'm already on the 02 £35p/m contract, but if they are truly unlocked then it would be much easier than worrying about jailbreaking.
 
EVH said:
I wonder, what would stop you buying a totally SIM free one from Australia and using it on UK networks?

Doesn't bother me, I'm already on the 02 £35p/m contract, but if they are truly unlocked then it would be much easier than worrying about jailbreaking.
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I suppose nothing but the number of people that does that must be only a handful.
 
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