The Last of Us (HBO, from Creator of Chernobyl) - No game spoilers please

azazl187 said:
No I haven't.
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Well there you go. The core theme of the game isn't mindless carnage and killing (although that is clearly part of it), it's about relationships, human connections, moral decisions and revenge (more so the second game). There is a reason it's so highly regarded and that's because it's different to every other run of the mill zombie game. I'm confused as to how people don't at least have some understanding of that.

I thought it was an incredibly moving and powerful episode. Brilliant acting and even better writing. I'd honestly say it's one of the best 75 minutes of television I have seen in the last few years. The show will be remembered for that very episode.
 
Raymond Lin said:
in 6 weeks. To protect the one you love.

The payoff is for later.
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:confused: The story works perfectly fine without the new elements they added in ep 3. Knowing what's to come (unless they start doing major changes to the storyarc like the most recent episode) the emotional investment is exactly the same.
 
Robi said:
Well there you go. The core theme of the game isn't mindless carnage and killing (although that is clearly part of it), it's about relationships, human connections, moral decisions and revenge (more so the second game). There is a reason it's so highly regarded and that's because it's different to every other run of the mill zombie game. I'm confused as to how people don't at least have some understanding of that.

I thought it was an incredibly moving and powerful episode. Brilliant acting and even better writing. I'd honestly say it's one of the best 75 minutes of television I have seen in the last few years. The show will be remembered for that very episode.
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It certainly will be remembered, that for sure.
 
C Kent said:
:confused: The story works perfectly fine without the new elements they added in ep 3. Knowing what's to come (unless they start doing major changes to the storyarc like the most recent episode) the emotional investment is exactly the same.
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Well I disagree, I think it is done well, and mix it up with the entire "fetch quest" which would have been for the car battery.
 
IvanDobskey said:
It had no relevance to the main narrative at all. It was there purely to tick the diverse/gay box.
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See below... If you think ep3 had no impact on the story then you've missed the point. There were important things we learnt from the episode, mostly the letter. https://wikiofnerds.com/the-last-of-us-creator-clarifies-why-bills-letter-to-joel-is-so-important/ (read carefully, looks like game spoilers at the end)
VincentHanna said:
The whole point of the episode was the letter at the end to Joel.

At this point Bill thinks he's doing Joel a favour by telling him they are both the same type of people, protectors. Joel however has already 'failed' to protect his own daughter and Tess by the time he reads it. His only path forward is to abandon Ellie or try all he can to protect her. It seems this is the point where he chooses option B.

This protectiveness will ultimately
doom humanity

The letter doesn't have any emotional impact without seeing Bill and Frank, and how they are both different. Frank is the artist, Bill is the survivalist. Frank wouldn't have stood a chance against the raiders without Bill.
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The kick back for changing someones oriantation would have been epic.

Yet they are ok with changing race and gender (as long as its not white)

Shamikebab said:
I love how some are saying that it was a filler episode with no consequence and some are saying it makes major changes to the story from the games :D
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I thought it was a good episode, while it deviated from the game, what they did really fleshed out the characters, and filled in the story for Frank who you only know of after a brief interaction with Bill. It could have been left out and the story would still work with Ellie and Joul, but that doesn't detract from it being a great story and I wouldn't be surprised if it won some major awards this year (partly because it tackled a controversial polarising subject)
 
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Don't know what your all crying about tbh.
Great episode of TV...full of emotion and sadness. Adds to the world building (raiders, trade routes, government control) and gives us a great story in the process.

The game was about characters and this show is proving that they can actually elevate that to TV and give us something extra as well.
As for filler comments. we have no idea where this season is going to end from a plot perspective..so how the f can you call this filler? They might take 5 seasons to get to the end of the first game for all we know.
 
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