US: The Leftovers

Yeah, absolutely perfect finale. Wow. Had lumps/chills at various points, particularly with Kevin doing that thing hurhurhur

Lindelof making himself more accessible now he's risking not getting a 3rd season, I hope HBO stick with it...
 
Brilliant ep. Just breathtaking storytelling. I don't know how long I can survive this bipolar rollercoaster though.

When it's brilliant, it's just otherworldly good, it's chills after chills. It's like watching Lost's "The Constant" and the pilot in one, for the first time again. It's as if John Locke's hatch banging episode culminated in Charlie's "Not Penny's Boat" hand against the window and we all knew and didn't know everything in-between, all in the same time.

But when it dives into Damon's drivel, oh.. my... god...., the flashbacks of the wasted years on some purgatory bullpoop, all the freaking hours of fist clenching at Michael's never flipping ending whining "Waaaaaaalt!" "Waaaaaaalt!" and months of watching Shannon's blobby pouty face in every second scene and for what, for what? That's when you realise you are entrusting the core of this story to the man behind Girl With Dragon Tattoo's octopus baby. And resulting pteromorph. And all the magic black goo of Prometheus.

And that, my friends is too much of a fine line - this is the type of screwed up writer who at the very end can leave us to the endless watercooler talks about the divine and unexplained, but more often than not his unstable mind tends to leave us with Kevin Garvey waking up in the middle of bamboo garden, with some stupid dog beside him and it all turns out to be a dream he had while dying from a wound he received because he just had to run in a straight line....
 
v0n said:
Brilliant ep. Just breathtaking storytelling. I don't know how long I can survive this bipolar rollercoaster though.

When it's brilliant, it's just otherworldly good, it's chills after chills. It's like watching Lost's "The Constant" and the pilot in one, for the first time again. It's as if John Locke's hatch banging episode culminated in Charlie's "Not Penny's Boat" hand against the window and we all knew and didn't know everything in-between, all in the same time.

But when it dives into Damon's drivel, oh.. my... god...., the flashbacks of the wasted years on some purgatory bullpoop, all the freaking hours of fist clenching at Michael's never flipping ending whining "Waaaaaaalt!" "Waaaaaaalt!" and months of watching Shannon's blobby pouty face in every second scene and for what, for what? That's when you realise you are entrusting the core of this story to the man behind Girl With Dragon Tattoo's octopus baby. And resulting pteromorph. And all the magic black goo of Prometheus.

And that, my friends is too much of a fine line - this is the type of screwed up writer who at the very end can leave us to the endless watercooler talks about the divine and unexplained, but more often than not his unstable mind tends to leave us with Kevin Garvey waking up in the middle of bamboo garden, with some stupid dog beside him and it all turns out to be a dream he had while dying from a wound he received because he just had to run in a straight line....
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Good grief, have you just ate a couple of critics for breakfast :confused:
Write properly and not in mumbo jumbo.
 
Well this season certainly changed gears from the first but in fairness it was still excellent television. Unsure why or how they could continue the story with a 3rd series but why not, I'd certainly continue to watch it!
 
darkgen said:
Well this season certainly changed gears from the first but in fairness it was still excellent television. Unsure why or how they could continue the story with a 3rd series but why not, I'd certainly continue to watch it!
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A few ways I could see it continuing:

Could maybe see John become the main protagonist.

Focus on Nora and her story about being a key reason behind people departing or look at why Mary was caught between life and purgatory.

Bring Patti back, we don't know for sure that Kevin killed her.

If they do continue with it I think Justin Theroux has to have a key role, ifit wasn't for the way he played Kevin I don't think I would have kept watching through the more protracted episodes.

Also some people really want a third series -

Fan Campaign
 
v0n said:
Brilliant ep. Just breathtaking storytelling. I don't know how long I can survive this bipolar rollercoaster though.

When it's brilliant, it's just otherworldly good, it's chills after chills. It's like watching Lost's "The Constant" and the pilot in one, for the first time again. It's as if John Locke's hatch banging episode culminated in Charlie's "Not Penny's Boat" hand against the window and we all knew and didn't know everything in-between, all in the same time.

But when it dives into Damon's drivel, oh.. my... god...., the flashbacks of the wasted years on some purgatory bullpoop, all the freaking hours of fist clenching at Michael's never flipping ending whining "Waaaaaaalt!" "Waaaaaaalt!" and months of watching Shannon's blobby pouty face in every second scene and for what, for what? That's when you realise you are entrusting the core of this story to the man behind Girl With Dragon Tattoo's octopus baby. And resulting pteromorph. And all the magic black goo of Prometheus.

And that, my friends is too much of a fine line - this is the type of screwed up writer who at the very end can leave us to the endless watercooler talks about the divine and unexplained, but more often than not his unstable mind tends to leave us with Kevin Garvey waking up in the middle of bamboo garden, with some stupid dog beside him and it all turns out to be a dream he had while dying from a wound he received because he just had to run in a straight line....
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Wut? The purgatory episode where he kills Patty was absolutely brilliant. Like, truly brilliant.

Not sure if it needs a third but then I didn't think it needed a second. If they can follow this up then go for it. Otherwise I hope they leave it alone.
 
Seriously, I miss a lot because I have problems keeping an interest in things when they aren't straight forward.
Can somebody explain, or link to a site, why some of you think this was a brilliant episode and why you think it has ended?
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Seriously, I miss a lot because I have problems keeping an interest in things when they aren't straight forward.
Can somebody explain, or link to a site, why some of you think this was a brilliant episode and why you think it has ended?
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I would, but this really is one of those shows that's better experienced in it's entirety. It's only 20 episodes or so, binge away. :)

That said if I had to say why in a sentence then it's simply down to a good pace of story progression with some interesting characters and plot twists underpinned by a seriously emotive and poignant musical score.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Seriously, I miss a lot because I have problems keeping an interest in things when they aren't straight forward.
Can somebody explain, or link to a site, why some of you think this was a brilliant episode and why you think it has ended?
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Because most of what's been going on has been explained now, just not the overall how. That and Kevins now at a point where he can actually live instead of going through the motions.
 
randal said:
I would, but this really is one of those shows that's better experienced in it's entirety. It's only 20 episodes or so, binge away. :)

That said if I had to say why in a sentence then it's simply down to a good pace of story progression with some interesting characters and plot twists underpinned by a seriously emotive and poignant musical score.
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I've watched them all, it's just that I have a self diagnosed ADHD when it comes to watching TV series that aren't straight forward.
All I see is a bloke being killed but coming back alive, 3 girls returning with a pretend bomb, the town destroyed and that blokes wife coming out of a coma.
I don't know how it all fits together and why some people think it can end there.
 
The music in this show, both the beautiful orchestral score and the way songs pop up and intertwine with the storyline, was nothing short of superb. That karaoke scene in the finale should have been laughable, but the way the performance moved on was pretty wonderful.
 
Was it just me or did they make a bit of a gaff in the continuity at the start of the episode? Girls leave to head to lake which Kevin watches. He then beats them there despite going to bed, sleep walking to the old paedo, finding out he needs to die, grabbing the cinder block and heading out to the lake himself!?

Either they drive VERY slowly or perhaps they took a detour? Or just mistake.
 
Not sure I have? Old man suicide said he'd come to see him and he told him he needed to die to be rid of Patty. Said he just got up, picked up the block and some rope and wandered off without hesitation.
That all had to have happened in between the girls leaving from the outside of the houses, with Kevin there watching, to drive to the lake where Kevin already was.

Asides that seems they've given the greenlight for a 3rd and final series. The writers and creators seemed to be really pushing for it so hopefully they've got somethi8ng suitable lined up storywise!
 
Washout said:
Not sure I have? Old man suicide said he'd come to see him and he told him he needed to die to be rid of Patty. Said he just got up, picked up the block and some rope and wandered off without hesitation.
That all had to have happened in between the girls leaving from the outside of the houses, with Kevin there watching, to drive to the lake where Kevin already was.
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Oh I see what you mean. Between end of dinner with Kevin seeing Evie leave with her friends and sleepwalking all the way to the lake the girls only made >< that much progress. Yes.

I recon the explanation of what they were doing in the missing time will be presented to us later but chances are we were already kind of told but didn't notice.

There are three clue delivery devices Lindelof use in his stories all the time:
1. present something to you in form of extended scene, until you mumble "WTF" under your nose, then immediately distract your attention to such degree that you immediately forget about it. The next time they return to the device you go "awwww..... how could I forget... of course".
Example:
The Girls exercise/prepare for something bare naked around the woods then drive home in silence. We did go WTF and we already forgot about that, right? We know why "in silence" (already "remnant"), there must be a reason why naked too hmmmkay...?
2. present something to you in form of "are you paying attention" long arc, multi episode short bursts of information, always delivered sloppily, as background information specifically so you don't connect the dots. The next time they return to the device you go "what? Where was that? Do I need to flipping watch this drivel again?". I hate that device.
Example:
Birds in the box, Erica mother's bird in the box story, Kevin rising from the grave in the ground and Virgil's (btw, Dante's "Divine Comedy" much, the guide to purgatory, someone remind me - what was his name?) way of delivering him there is part of the same magical "Jarden of Eden" plot device. It's been already 90% explained to us, five seconds at the time, across five or six episodes but because it wasn't told properly - most of us missed it.

3. "Have you paid attention in Sunday School?" ie. Jewish+Christian Mythology/Testament.
Example:
The Serpent and The Forbidden Fruit on the tree. Cavewoman scene. The Serpent tricks Evie or Jarden Of Eden to join their side. The Serpent/(the W word) mates with The False Prophet.
 
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