Just to clarify - you say "it is not two sided" - but then you say its "sets of people that disagree" which I mean thats the definition of "two sided" to me i.e two sets of people with opposing views arguing with each other over those views, which is what we have here and matches with the last sentence in the quote, which I agree with you over. Maybe I've misunderstood your point TBH.
Is it "everyone" or just a literal handful of people in the media, SM, and in here?
Just look at the very limited effect those people can cause because the people on the "Right Wing", who were never going to see a Disney product anyway, deciding not to watch a product doesn't make Disney lose $200 million over "Strange World", or lose $150 million on "Mulan", or lose $150 million on "Jungle Cruise" etc etc etc, that takes a global market of people of all political persuasions from all around the world saying "nope" to the material Disney currently is creating. So the idea that we should blame evil "Right Wingers in the US" for this continual slow Global collapse of the Disney brand, instead of blaming Disney themselves for making objectively "poor" products that people don't want to see as much of any more, is a strange deflection of blame apportioning to me.
It's one of the few areas where myself and VincentHanna agree - people don't watch "bad" products - and its just a huge shame that currently, most of the Disney films/series that the "US Right Wing" say are Woke, should be products that are made really well for everyone to enjoy allowing their message to reach further to wider audiences. However, they are generally the ones which are being poorly made (bad story, script, acting or direction etc) and are therefore being poorly received by everyone around the world, hindering the reach their message.
The opposite is a great example, so when something which still covers a "woke" topic such as racism and/or gender inequality is very well made with a good story, script, acting or direction etc such as films like "Green Book" or "Hidden figures" etc, it generally does really well commercially and critically, and strangely there is virtually no complaints about the "Right Wing". Yet when a product is poorly made, such as the "Batwoman" TV show or the film "Lightyear" for example, its failure is suddenly "Oh, its the Right Wings fault" rather than blaming the low quality of the product for its failure.
That act of wilful ignorance towards why something "really" failed, because the persons political leaning means that they don't want to acknowledge that their opposition may have been correct about this one product, is just silly and things on either side will not change unless the people who are currently cheerleading "bad products" acknowledge that the products are bad and advocate for change, for improvements to be made in the quality of the products they cheerleading for, but generally they seem on both sides to be ingrained with "to complain would be to agree with my enemy" and too many on either side won't allow themselves to do it, so we're left with dross in the cinema and on TV.
And please do tell what sort of impact that left wing "echo chamber" is having on forums such as these? Are we all red-pilled (or blue, who the heck knows?) and ruining discussions on TV/films like the right-wingers? I think not.
Really? The irony of saying (to paraphrase) "the things that my side say are good but the things that the other side say are bad and are ruining things" without realising thats exactly what the other echo chamber is also saying, is just depressing
You've said an opposing viewpoint is "ruining" discussions, but don't you think the people on the "other side" are thinking exactly the same as you as well? The desire to hear only one opinion and allow no other to be heard if it "ruins discussion" isn't a discussion at all, its the literal definition of an echo chamber, thats the negative impact they have, irrespective of "sides". The most important thing is to remember, I would suggest, is to remain civil with each other despite our differences, and thats the part most of us here struggle with at times i.e. it's OK to disagree, just don't be a ****
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