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I agree it's a good thing new people will come to Tolkien, and they'll cast off this rubbish when they get drawn into actual ME.
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I agree it's a good thing new people will come to Tolkien, and they'll cast off this rubbish when they get drawn into actual ME.
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Corridor Crew on youtube picked up on the same stuff I did. Although they haven't discussed the other issues I've raised previously (appropriate, since they're not Cinemasins, they talk about vfx), they did talk about the Forced Perspective issues (or at least, raised one of them) in their episode two days ago.
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I don’t really understand all the hate, I enjoyed it.
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It's the Internet; there'll always be both. Each to their own, haters and lovers of any material.
My personal gripe however is based on the supposed "cost" that is sunk into each episode (some 50 odd mil), and has been let down by REALLY rookie mistakes that somehow got the OK for final release on the vfx side, or was handwaved away because the show runners felt that it was minor and inconsequential matters; it's not. If it's detectable (especially by a novice/rookie, like myself on the first viewing), there's an issue. And there was quite a few dotted throughout this season. So when you factor in the cost involved, there really should have only been continuity mistakes, and not detectable visual mistakes.
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It was alright. If you took away the pretty visuals it was poor.
Dialogue was just awful at times. The casting or directing of some of the actors was just baffling. Galadriel was a massive mis-step. They gave her junk dialogue and her version of gravitas or emotion was awful. Nothing really felt like there was any danger to it. I didn't end up caring about any of the characters and the big reveals were telegraphed.
It just all comes back to bad writing and poor pacing. There is just no excuse with their budget and resources. None. If this was done on a smaller budget with the only difference being the VFX/scenery quality it would be absolutely slated. Its mutton dressed as lamb.
Just get some good writers. It can't be that hard. There are so many good shows with good writers. Its LotR for christs sake. Very frustrating.
Dialogue was just awful at times. The casting or directing of some of the actors was just baffling. Galadriel was a massive mis-step. They gave her junk dialogue and her version of gravitas or emotion was awful. Nothing really felt like there was any danger to it. I didn't end up caring about any of the characters and the big reveals were telegraphed.
It just all comes back to bad writing and poor pacing. There is just no excuse with their budget and resources. None. If this was done on a smaller budget with the only difference being the VFX/scenery quality it would be absolutely slated. Its mutton dressed as lamb.
Just get some good writers. It can't be that hard. There are so many good shows with good writers. Its LotR for christs sake. Very frustrating.
Same, It was way better than Lord of the thrones
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I think I said it before...
To a non Tolkien fan, like myself. They did a really good visual job of recreating the Peter Jackson LotR style.
Characters looked decent. In 4k on an oled screen the show looked really good, i think no one can argue that.
Then the characters, hit and miss, Discount versions of LotR ones we all love. Bad writing, unoriginal, repetitive.
The writing... Well it was cringe and unintentionally funny. Passable, probably just good enough. För angsty teenagers.
Like others say, 90% looks 10% story.
I don't think it will get better.
I think it's a shame it went up against game of thrones part Deux. That also has it problems but much better written and mature, and although it has a few punchbable cast members, I'd still like to punch every harfoot and galadrial and elrond -Hugh Grant edition most of Númenor and the bowl headed haircut kid oh and his mum and actually that's it the rest are ok.
To a non Tolkien fan, like myself. They did a really good visual job of recreating the Peter Jackson LotR style.
Characters looked decent. In 4k on an oled screen the show looked really good, i think no one can argue that.
Then the characters, hit and miss, Discount versions of LotR ones we all love. Bad writing, unoriginal, repetitive.
The writing... Well it was cringe and unintentionally funny. Passable, probably just good enough. För angsty teenagers.
Like others say, 90% looks 10% story.
I don't think it will get better.
I think it's a shame it went up against game of thrones part Deux. That also has it problems but much better written and mature, and although it has a few punchbable cast members, I'd still like to punch every harfoot and galadrial and elrond -Hugh Grant edition most of Númenor and the bowl headed haircut kid oh and his mum and actually that's it the rest are ok.
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Caught up and finished over the weekend. Really enjoyed it. It's not perfect and I think the writing could do with a little tightening up next season, but overall I thinks it's definitely one of the more watchable shows I've seen these past few years.
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But it's not Tolkien!!
If the writers were clever, they could have pulled of a surprise reveal, but they weren't, they were lazy. It was obvious who Sauron was, too everyone except Galadriel.
Why did Halbrand need to be healed by the Elves anyway? Didn't they say in the first episode they don't have healers as their bodies heal themselves?, magic sponge? lol
Trying to threw people off with that not-Gandalf / emo fight scene was just lame, he's a wizard, like we didn't already know... But it turns out it's all Galadriel's fault, the most evil character in the show....Does she tell her fellow Elves at the end what happened with Halbrand? No, and makes the rings anyway. Is it just me or do the characters go out of their way to not answer questions when asked? It's so annoying.
Those rings at the end with the uncut janky jewelry looked cheap AF.
Why did Halbrand need to be healed by the Elves anyway? Didn't they say in the first episode they don't have healers as their bodies heal themselves?, magic sponge? lol
Trying to threw people off with that not-Gandalf / emo fight scene was just lame, he's a wizard, like we didn't already know... But it turns out it's all Galadriel's fault, the most evil character in the show....Does she tell her fellow Elves at the end what happened with Halbrand? No, and makes the rings anyway. Is it just me or do the characters go out of their way to not answer questions when asked? It's so annoying.
Those rings at the end with the uncut janky jewelry looked cheap AF.
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If the writers were clever, they could have pulled of a surprise reveal, but they weren't, they were lazy. It was obvious who Sauron was, too everyone except Galadriel.
Why did Halbrand need to be healed by the Elves anyway? Didn't they say in the first episode they don't have healers as their bodies heal themselves?, magic sponge? lol
Trying to threw people off with that not-Gandalf / emo fight scene was just lame, he's a wizard, like we didn't already know... But it turns out it's all Galadriel's fault, the most evil character in the show....Does she tell her fellow Elves at the end what happened with Halbrand? No, and makes the rings anyway. Is it just me or do the characters go out of their way to not answer questions when asked? It's so annoying.
Those rings at the end with the uncut janky jewelry looked cheap AF.
Remember in LOTR that they rushed Frodo to Elrond since only he had the power to save Frodo at that point. Halfelven yes but even so, had chosen the immortal path.
The Dunedain rangers were known healers and Aragorn couldn't do anything but pain relief and nor could Glorfindel, although not sure if Glorfindel was known as a healer as such.
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She didn't tell them because then they wouldn't have forged the rings, and they need them.
The Elven rings were never under the control of Sauron because they learn of his deception. Gandalf eventually ends up with one of them to give him abilities to inspire others, and also has magic abilities with fire.
Unlike the 9 rings made for men. Which Sauron can/does control.
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I know, but they're different ages, none of that applies to what we see on screen in the ROP.
What Arondir said was ridiculous, it's just bad writing. Perhaps they don't have Elves that specialise in healing other species yet? Who knows, the writers don't give a ****, so I'm not going to waste anymore time trying to make sense of it.
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Huh?
Different ages, thats like saying at the turn of the 20th century all 19th century medicine became irrelevant and the same will happen when we hit the 21st century.
If anything the elves are more powerful in the second age than the third, although it was a decline as opposed to a step change. The ages were just timed by historical events.
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