The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (Prime)

VincentHanna · 3 Sep 2022 at 17:59

Wait until you read the next 41 pages...

Smokey Deza · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:03

Colonel_Klinck said:
Why is it always the same handful of poster who derail threads with their identity politics nonsense? This world have zero similarities with our Earth, it is a complete fantasy world, if you want to apply our Earth logic to it you've got bigger problems than some dark skinned hobbit like creatures.

So what if it's a fantasy.

GoT is a fantasy. But the pirate guy, rich guy from Quarth, Grey Worm and Danearys' #2 are all from the Summer Isle.

The Summer Isle:

"The Summer Islanders are strong and tall, a handsome people eager to learn. Their skin colour includes nut brown, teak, ebony, and polished jet"

But this? No substance, no origins, nothing. That crappy village scene is just pure vile wokeness being shoved in my face. And the worst part is, the majority of you are okay with it. Worse yet, actually defending it.

Dis has got it right. It is a total immersion killer.

Colonel_Klinck · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:13

Smokey Deza said:
So what if it's a fantasy.

GoT is a fantasy. But the pirate guy, rich guy from Quarth, Grey Worm and Danearys' #2 are all from the Summer Isle.

The Summer Isle:

"The Summer Islanders are strong and tall, a handsome people eager to learn. Their skin colour includes nut brown, teak, ebony, and polished jet"

But this? No substance, no origins, nothing. That crappy village scene is just pure vile wokeness being shoved in my face. And the worst part is, the majority of you are okay with it. Worse yet, actually defending it.

Dis has got it right. It is a total immersion killer.

I think I can taste the salt from here.

Its a total immersion killer for those of you that live for identity politics. I'd say 90% of viewers just passed it by.

Ayahuasca · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:17

Went into it pretty open-minded but I thought it was poop and didn’t draw me in at all.

Only awards it will be winning is for best picture. It’s like the Crysis of the TV world.

Junglist · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:30

How many episodes long is the season supposed to be? I've got too used to binge watching shows but also want to see what all the fuss is/isn't about

VincentHanna · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:48

Junglist said:
How many episodes long is the season supposed to be? I've got too used to binge watching shows but also want to see what all the fuss is/isn't about

8

C Kent · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:49

Junglist said:
How many episodes long is the season supposed to be? I've got too used to binge watching shows but also want to see what all the fuss is/isn't about

8 for s1 - all seasons planned to be a 50 hour 'extravaganza'

xaldub · 3 Sep 2022 at 18:57

I thought the visuals were good ( especially for a TV show ) but the story/writing was uninspired and boring. Didn't grab me at all. Looking at this from a hardcore Tolkien fan's perspective, then it's awful as so much of the established lore is ignored. If J.R.R Tolkien was still alive today ( or his son, Christopher ) there is no way he would have allowed for this show to be green-lit.

aardvark · 3 Sep 2022 at 19:51

Rroff said:
In the lore Gandalf doesn't arrive in Middle Earth until the 3rd age, the show is set in the second age. It is possible it is one of the other Maiar - I've not checked when the others arrived.

Though Gandalf also had a similar relationship with insects for instance the moth in LOTR and an immunity to fire, the character who'd fit the best from the lore is Alatar but I don't really see his function in where they seem to be going with the story.

EDIT: Read an article which made an interesting point - if it was Gandalf it would explain why he had an affinity for Hobbits in the 3rd age, setting of the LOTR movies.

its a weird one - they are supposed to have come to middle earth at the same time, i.e. the 3rd age (according to multiple references from tolkein), but 'the peoples of middle earth' says the 2 blue wizards came in the second age - so a bit of a contradiction from tolkein.
They both came together (the blue ones, according the peoples reference) though and there's no sign of another.
i will be annoyed if its gandalf as thats quite a change from the lore - he has nothing to do with the 2nd age at all and was on Valinor at the time.

But who else it could be i don't know

Mr-Xoc · 3 Sep 2022 at 20:16

aardvark said:
its a weird one - they are supposed to have come to middle earth at the same time, i.e. the 3rd age, but 'the peoples of middle earth' says the 2 blue wizards came in the second age - so a bit of a contradiction from tolkein.
They both came together though and there's no sign of another.
i will be annoyed if its gandalf as thats quite a change from the lore - he has nothing to do with the 2nd at all and was on Valinor at the time.

But who else it could be i don't know

One thing I wasnt sure about regarding the meteors, all the characters that saw it flying overhead were quite far apart in the world. I wasnt sure if it was supposed to be the same meteor they all saw, or if they were each seeing a different one and it was implying that multiple people crash landed in the same way as the possible Gandalf

OspreyO · 3 Sep 2022 at 20:18

Watched the first episode. Looked great but was pretty plodding.

aardvark · 3 Sep 2022 at 21:18

Mr-Xoc said:
One thing I wasnt sure about regarding the meteors, all the characters that saw it flying overhead were quite far apart in the world. I wasnt sure if it was supposed to be the same meteor they all saw, or if they were each seeing a different one and it was implying that multiple people crash landed in the same way as the possible Gandalf

I assumed it was just the one.
i've had a thought though - he could be Glorfindel - he was sent back in the second age

Mesai · 3 Sep 2022 at 21:41

First 2 episodes felt like setup, so it’s a bit of a leap to already call the story bad. The production quality is great compared to a lot of the other poorly made CGI nightmares.

Yea, I get the idea that each group would likely be of a similar skin tone, etc. but it’s a bit insane that some people are falling to pieces over this.

omnomnom · 3 Sep 2022 at 21:42

Watched it, really enjoyed it. I didnt see why people felt the need to mention Lenny Henry, i thought he was fine.

omnomnom · 3 Sep 2022 at 21:42

Mesai said:
First 2 episodes felt like setup, so it’s a bit of a leap to already call the story bad. The production quality is great compared to a lot of the other poorly made CGI nightmares.

Yea, I get the idea that each group would likely be of a similar skin tone, etc. but it’s a bit insane that some people are falling to pieces over this.

Well we know why people are falling to pieces over it lmao.

Minusorange · 3 Sep 2022 at 21:52

aardvark said:
its a weird one - they are supposed to have come to middle earth at the same time, i.e. the 3rd age (according to multiple references from tolkein), but 'the peoples of middle earth' says the 2 blue wizards came in the second age - so a bit of a contradiction from tolkein.
They both came together (the blue ones, according the peoples reference) though and there's no sign of another.
i will be annoyed if its gandalf as thats quite a change from the lore - he has nothing to do with the 2nd age at all and was on Valinor at the time.

But who else it could be i don't know

In terms of timeline we're somewhere between year 750 and year 1500

Eregion was founded in year 750, the rings aren't forged until year 1500, so somewhere in that 750 year gap is where we are in the story and over 2000 years until we reach the third age and the LOTR trilogy when supposedly the Wizards are sent to assist against Sauron, Glorfindel according to lore doesn't come back until after the one ring is forged in year 1600 either

No point trying to guess who the stranger starman is, he shouldn't be anybody from the story we already know, probably a brand new character they made up,

Mesai · 3 Sep 2022 at 22:14

omnomnom said:
Watched it, really enjoyed it. I didnt see why people felt the need to mention Lenny Henry, i thought he was fine.

I had no idea it was him until I read this thread. I think I was more focused on the main characters

omnomnom · 3 Sep 2022 at 23:02

Mesai said:
I had no idea it was him until I read this thread. I think I was more focused on the main characters

It really doesnt matter that it is him as its not like he stood out.

It doesnt matter how this series goes, it could be the greatest TV Series of all time, they wont like it and theyll cling onto some absolute nonsense to claim why instead of admitting who they are.

Some minds were made up long before this aired. Minds best ignored tbh.

inflames · 3 Sep 2022 at 23:02

Minusorange said:
My only complaint is skipping all the Morgoth story, would have like to see a focus on the dark side showing Sauron's rise and betrayal of being a Maia

This would have been great, to flesh out the character Sauron, I would have certainly enjoyed it.

I will wait to pass judgement, until the end of the series. But first impressions, visually stunning for a TV show. I enjoyed the part with the dwarfs the most. My negatives, Some of the writing is uninspiring. Galadriel I can’t get on with at the moment. I will watch the rest and hope it improves.

Amazon have certainly invested in this show, unlike the wheel of time.

Tony Edwards · 4 Sep 2022 at 00:36

Well I really enjoyed that.