**The Mental Health Thread**

7.5mg (half of the smallest tablet) is the most soporific dose. 15mg (the lowest prescribed dose) will be sedating and doesn't have an enormous effect on mental health.
If it's causing too much drowsiness, you can increase to 30mg after a fortnight, speak with your GP.
 
Does anyone know how to add your mental health care to the NHS app? I have my normal GP treatment on there but it doesn't show any of my mental health notes. All the mental health stuff is with the CMHS.
 
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@Cromulent check with them that they actually use it, I go to a hospital for a check up about something else and they use a different service to update patients about their records, appointments etc.

I've had to increase my dosage back up again, I've found myself too anxious, irritable and just not particularly nice to be around since I lowered it several months back. Feeling a lot calmer, and perhaps I can try again in the near future.
 
alexakasloth said:
@Cromulent check with them that they actually use it, I go to a hospital for a check up about something else and they use a different service to update patients about their records, appointments etc.
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I see. Thank you.

I've emailed their records team so I hope I'll hear back about it at some point soon. It would make things much easier if I did have access to that information though.
 
Omg. I'm really putting myself through some mental health issue. I've come to a stop from a decision I made a few months ago. Everyone is waiting for me and Ive just frankly stopped functioning. I've strained friendships and I've try to explain some aspects of what I'm going through but they frankly just don't understand. I've even thought about ending it to stop having to make that decision but honestly not going to happen. Not quite sure where to go with this moving forward till this decision is made and even when it is there's stress and anxiety in either direction
 
tres said:
7.5mg (half of the smallest tablet) is the most soporific dose. 15mg (the lowest prescribed dose) will be sedating and doesn't have an enormous effect on mental health.
If it's causing too much drowsiness, you can increase to 30mg after a fortnight, speak with your GP.
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I seem to be getting used to it now. It's helping me sleep better but doesn't seem to be immediately knocking me out after taking it.
 
Beans on toast Dave said:
I've even thought about ending it to stop having to make that decision but honestly not going to happen.
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Definitely not the answer.

You need to talk to someone, although it sounds like you can't talk to friends or family about it at the minute?
Andy's Man Club is great if you want some strangers to talk to, and can wait until Monday?

If not then Happy to discuss or chat on here, but if you need some more immediate help then I've put a couple of links below:

www.samaritans.org

Samaritans - Here to listen

Samaritans works to make sure there’s always someone there for anyone who needs someone. Read more.
www.samaritans.org www.samaritans.org

Using this tool

www.mind.org.uk www.mind.org.uk
www.nhs.uk

How to access mental health services

Find out about the different ways to get help with your mental health, the process, and your rights.
www.nhs.uk www.nhs.uk

Andy's Man Club | #ITSOKAYTOTALK

ANDYSMANCLUB are a men’s suicide prevention charity, offering free-to-attend peer-to-peer support groups across the United Kingdom and online.
andysmanclub.co.uk andysmanclub.co.uk
 
Armageus said:
Definitely not the answer.

You need to talk to someone, although it sounds like you can't talk to friends or family about it at the minute?
Andy's Man Club is great if you want some strangers to talk to, and can wait until Monday?

If not then Happy to discuss or chat on here, but if you need some more immediate help then I've put a couple of links below:

www.samaritans.org

Samaritans - Here to listen

Samaritans works to make sure there’s always someone there for anyone who needs someone. Read more.
www.samaritans.org www.samaritans.org

Using this tool

www.mind.org.uk www.mind.org.uk
www.nhs.uk

How to access mental health services

Find out about the different ways to get help with your mental health, the process, and your rights.
www.nhs.uk www.nhs.uk

Andy's Man Club | #ITSOKAYTOTALK

ANDYSMANCLUB are a men’s suicide prevention charity, offering free-to-attend peer-to-peer support groups across the United Kingdom and online.
andysmanclub.co.uk andysmanclub.co.uk
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I would probably suggest that recommended the NHS mental health services is a very bad idea. They simply cannot cope with the amount of patients and its likely that any real help they can offer (other than pointless group CBD online stuff) will take a year or more of waiting.

They like to make a big thing about all the help they can provide and like to advertise it everywhere, but the reality is that they are almost no help at all.
 
Cromulent said:
Does anyone know how to add your mental health care to the NHS app? I have my normal GP treatment on there but it doesn't show any of my mental health notes. All the mental health stuff is with the CMHS.
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That information doesn't get added to the NHS app.
 
This is not about me, but my tenant in my old home. He has bipolar and manic depression but his mum lives a few doors down and his brother round the corner, so his whole support network is close by.

We've just completed the first year and it's gone well, he's a good tenant looks after the house and even though he has had struggles with his condition at times, changes in meds etc have stabalised him. So we've just signed a new 1 yr tenancy and in some small way I felt good in helping his situation, by providing a stable home near to his family that he could have for as long as he wanted.

Wednesday I get a call from my agent and he's just been told that my tenant is dead...and reading between the lines we think it was suicide.

This has hit me really hard, as someone who has suffered severe depression thoughout my life (though thankfully I haven't had a bad episode for ~15 yrs now) I know what state he must have been in to do this, I've looked over the edge and stared into the abyss many times and the thought he was like that, in the same place I have been (mentally and literally) has brought it home and is tearing me up.

It's similar to when I hear about people my age (50's) commiting suicide, it just brings it home that it never leaves you and even though I feel like I've defeated it, it's always there lurking in the background and it's like the fight against terrorism, you have to defeat it every time, but it only has to win once.

Stay strong everyone, it's never as bad as your depression is telling you it is, even if it totally feels like it.
 
Freakbro said:
This is not about me, but my tenant in my old home. He has bipolar and manic depression but his mum lives a few doors down and his brother round the corner, so his whole support network is close by.

We've just completed the first year and it's gone well, he's a good tenant looks after the house and even though he has had struggles with his condition at times, changes in meds etc have stabalised him. So we've just signed a new 1 yr tenancy and in some small way I felt good in helping his situation, by providing a stable home near to his family that he could have for as long as he wanted.

Wednesday I get a call from my agent and he's just been told that my tenant is dead...and reading between the lines we think it was suicide.

This has hit me really hard, as someone who has suffered severe depression thoughout my life (though thankfully I haven't had a bad episode for ~15 yrs now) I know what state he must have been in to do this, I've looked over the edge and stared into the abyss many times and the thought he was like that, in the same place I have been (mentally and literally) has brought it home and is tearing me up.

It's similar to when I hear about people my age (50's) commiting suicide, it just brings it home that it never leaves you and even though I feel like I've defeated it, it's always there lurking in the background and it's like the fight against terrorism, you have to defeat it every time, but it only has to win once.

Stay strong everyone, it's never as bad as your depression is telling you it is, even if it totally feels like it.
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I'm sorry to hear about that. Being suicidal is an awful thing to be and the fact that it makes you feel like isolating yourself only makes it worse. Being in that situation myself in the past has made me aware how important it is to make sure people are really OK and to listen to them if they want to talk. I hope you feel better soon.
 
Big night for me, have hardly been out of my flat in 20 years, certainly not to a local lounge bar, tonight is men's mental wellbeing group and have psyched and been psyched up by good friends to go.

Have also sorted things out with my best friend who happens to be female and finally went for blood tests after 16 years. Last time my liver was in a bad way, and I was grossly overweight, all the tests came back normal, and I feel in a much better place than 6 weeks ago.

I thought my life was lost just a short while back and now at the ripe old age of 57 want to start enjoying life again, there is always hope and light at the end of the tunnel.
 
another doctor contacted my GP to say I was at risk of self censoring and erm bad thoughts. (being family friendly)

Then I had a message from someone at the GP surgery saying I had an appointment with my GP and why.

I went to the GP surgery at the appointment time, to be told it was a phone appointment.

The phone never rang, then a few hours later I had a text saying I would have a new appointment for today.


I had never had any text, but I logged in the NHS app when I woke up, says I have an appointment at 11:42am (I tried to check at 11:11am what type of appointment but got put in a 30 odd person phone queue so just hung up)


Phone finally rings at 12:40...


GP sounds annoyed at me... gives me the dates of the times I've seen him this year, and then acts like It's my fault for not bringing it up right.....



but guess what "we can only deal with one problem at a time" so how could I have? I was soo tempted to just hung up the phone when he did that.... trying to pass the blame onto me.... literally the last time I saw him he even added the note that I was bad thoughts....... so he knew I had problems, he just didn't have the time to discuss them.


I remember not long ago, at the GP for stomach issues etc, he organised a Gastroscopy for me and blood tests.

at the end I mentioned "Could you redo my repeat prescription it's due to run out in 2 weeks"


he literally snapped at me "no I can't" before he realised the medication I have a repeat prescription off is for stomach issues and that's why I was having an appointment with him.?

it took him all of 5 seconds to send me a new prescription.

then hes whining I've never brought up that I'm always depressed etc

what do they expect? the system is designed so people keep their problems bottled up for as long as possible



oh btw GP asked what I self censored, then when he did the "speak into the mic for the computer notes" he didn't even say what I told him, he said something totally different like he wasn't even listening.


phone appointments for mental health checks lol....... what a JOKE (gp was also asking about the self censoring, and because he couldnt see it he had me say "I understand the risks of sepsis etc") he can't see it because it's a phone appointment..... but he knew about it in advance and still choose a phone appointment rather than an in person.)


Got issued anti depressants and referred for counselling but told the waits 5 months.
 
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My old GP was like that, a really horrible bloke who wouldn't even look people in the eye and was about as condescending as you could get. Also had a history of completely ignoring patients concerns and refusing to send them for tests, some of whom ended up being diagnosed with things like cancer and their symptoms were early signs of such.

My last interaction with him about a decade ago was when I told him where to go in no unfriendly terms and he threatened to call the police, even though he was the one who started raising his voice and shouting first :cry: Before anyone thinks it was just me, there were weekly complaints about his behaviour for years during his time at the practice.

Although I haven't been for years, my new GP is the complete opposite, a younger chap with fantastic communication skills who always leaves you feeling better.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
My old GP was like that, a really horrible bloke who wouldn't even look people in the eye and was about as condescending as you could get
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Usually he's fine but seems to have a bit of a "better than though" vibe going on.

I guess they all do, what are they on like 70k a year to 100k+? working 2-3 days a week.

and this poor guy has to work in a surgery in one of the poorest areas of the city, I bet he's the type of guy who lies about where he works on the golf course because it's too embarrassing.

MY old GP was worse though, seems he never updated my medical notes, even when I;'ve been diagnosed with things.


Anyway he didn't seem shocked or concerned that another doctor has informed the surgery I have long term issues, it seemed like he was more worried about trying to cover himself incase there was any investigation or complaint.

but as said at the last meeting with him about a month ago he added to my notes that I have bad thoughts fairly often.

so kinda shot himself in the foot.... cos I've obviously made mention of it but hes not had the time or concern to do anything.


Actually my very first meeting with him about 3 years ago was because I thought I was having a mental breakdown and had bad thoughts.

so yea... it looks bad for him if the other doctor stated any ball rolling.

personally I wouldn't complain it's just how the NHS is., I'd probably make a statement backing my GP even if I was aware of anything going on regarding his conduct with me.

I'm Autistic so not likely to volunteer information or speak about my problems much, but he knows that anyway so not sure that would help him with his due care or whatever.
 
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arknor said:
what are they on like 70k a year to 100k+? working 2-3 days a week.
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I can see why you're annoyed in your case, but that's far from the truth i.e. only working 2-3 days a week.

It may be their days/hours in the practice, but they spend hours on paperwork and other things outside the practice. They also have one of the highest consultations per day in Europe.
 
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