**The Mental Health Thread**

These are all good updates, if not positive then at least not negative :)
Spring will hit soon and you'll have more gardening jobs than you know what to do with. I'm already pulling out hundreds of bulbs that have started to sprout and take over (Spanish Bluebells)
 
The last 8 weeks have basically been pure hell internally. I haven’t vocalised it with friends and family and tbh have been trying to hide as much as possible. Faked it through Christmas. Isolated for new year.

A lot came out today when I popped to see my mum and step-dad. Having run into the ex and her new bf earlier today for the first time and having not seen her for 6 months a lot hit like a brick. Despite hating her and certainly never wanting her back I still can’t seem to move on and miss her and my old family life terribly. Guess I’m just too old fashioned for a disposable world.

Still stuck in my head. Still unable to let go. Depression kicking my ass hard. Too many bad thoughts and plans in place including how, where and what my last words will be in writing and messages. Just all in a complete feeling of rejection and failure with no positivity. Work has gone to hell because of my mental health. Pretty sure my time there is limited. No new social connections and feel a burden to friends after all this time. Over a year on and I find myself still in the same place I was.

I’m a shell of who I used to be. I really just don’t see the point. I liken myself to someone in physical pain where out is the right option and the end is a considered relief. Mental pain is misunderstood and it is so consuming with no relief or remedy.

First time I have written this out. Sorry to be the one without a positive update.
 
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The last 8 weeks have basically been pure hell internally. I haven’t vocalised it with friends and family and tbh have been trying to hide as much as possible. Faked it through Christmas. Isolated for new year.

A lot came out today when I popped to see my mum and step-dad. Having run into the ex and her new bf earlier today for the first time and having not seen her for 6 months a lot hit like a brick. Despite hating her and certainly never wanting her back I still can’t seem to move on and miss her and my old family life terribly. Guess I’m just too old fashioned for a disposable world.

Still stuck in my head. Still unable to let go. Depression kicking my ass hard. Too many bad thoughts and plans in place including how, where and what my last words will be in writing and messages. Just all in a complete feeling of rejection and failure with no positivity. Work has gone to hell because of my mental health. Pretty sure my time there is limited. No new social connections and feel a burden to friends after all this time. Over a year on and I find myself still in the same place I was.

I’m a shell of who I used to be. I really just don’t see the point. I liken myself to someone in physical pain where out is the right option and the end is a considered relief. Mental pain is misunderstood and it is so consuming with no relief or remedy.

First time I have written this out. Sorry to be the one without a positive update.
First of all I wish you the very best.

You mentioned not moving on. Would speaking to the GP about your mental health help? He would be able to prescribe antidepresants for instance as well as stuff for anxiety and you can self refer for talking therapies as well. Speaking to the GP though will open up a load of different options.

If you hit crisis point though please call a crisis number and explain how things are. I think you can call 111 option 2 to speak to a mental health advisor (not entirely sure it is option 2).
 
I appreciate it. I have already had 6 months of therapy. From talking therapy to counselling and CBT. It helped in places with anxiety. Didn’t touch the depression other than I don’t show it as much. Taught me how to hide it.

I’ve been to GP. They offered meds but I won’t take them. I don’t want to mask how I feel and was hoping to deal with it.

In the end I’ll deal with it my way. I don’t want to do anything as I know it will affect those who care but most of the time I just don’t see the point. When at a stage when even your children aren’t a reason is when it is bad and whilst I love them more than anything for once I want to be selfish and think of myself first and just stop hurting.

Again. I don’t want anyone to worry or feel bad. I’m fully cognisant and logical. I’m aware of how I feel. I know it’s wrong but it’s a struggle.
 
I appreciate it. I have already had 6 months of therapy. From talking therapy to counselling and CBT. It helped in places with anxiety. Didn’t touch the depression other than I don’t show it as much. Taught me how to hide it.

I’ve been to GP. They offered meds but I won’t take them. I don’t want to mask how I feel and was hoping to deal with it.

In the end I’ll deal with it my way. I don’t want to do anything as I know it will affect those who care but most of the time I just don’t see the point. When at a stage when even your children aren’t a reason is when it is bad and whilst I love them more than anything for once I want to be selfish and think of myself first and just stop hurting.

Again. I don’t want anyone to worry or feel bad. I’m fully cognisant and logical. I’m aware of how I feel. I know it’s wrong but it’s a struggle.

This might not mean much but I really admired your observations of your experiences in 'The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread'. Your reflections were positive (as much they can be given circumstance), practical, and had a "keep on keeping on" tone about them which I really liked.

Keep on keeping on :)
 
never been to Andy's Man Club myself but feel free to give me a call mate ,im sure any of the mods would would be happy to talk too
I appreciate that the offer is there :)

AMC seems to work for me though, gives me a routine of getting out of the house every week for something other than work, and is a structured way to tell people about my problems (or lack thereof) that week, and equally a reason to find something good about my week to tell them about, no matter how small or inconsequential.
 
I appreciate it. I have already had 6 months of therapy. From talking therapy to counselling and CBT. It helped in places with anxiety. Didn’t touch the depression other than I don’t show it as much. Taught me how to hide it.

I’ve been to GP. They offered meds but I won’t take them. I don’t want to mask how I feel and was hoping to deal with it.

In the end I’ll deal with it my way. I don’t want to do anything as I know it will affect those who care but most of the time I just don’t see the point. When at a stage when even your children aren’t a reason is when it is bad and whilst I love them more than anything for once I want to be selfish and think of myself first and just stop hurting.

Again. I don’t want anyone to worry or feel bad. I’m fully cognisant and logical. I’m aware of how I feel. I know it’s wrong but it’s a struggle.

re: meds, lets assume that they do mask your feelings, what is the down side if (from what you've written) you seem to be at the bottom? Sounds like your only way is up from here and I'd rather you try meds and get a bit better than not try them and stay in this frame of mind. I'm sure your friends and family feel the same.
 
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This might not mean much but I really admired your observations of your experiences in 'The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread'. Your reflections were positive (as much they can be given circumstance), practical, and had a "keep on keeping on" tone about them which I really liked.

Keep on keeping on :)

They were and for others I can give the advice. The reality internally is a struggle everyday. I still believe I deserved much better. There is a logical analysis of the situation which just doesn’t correlate with the emotional. At the moment the emotional is winning. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone and would always suggest others get help. I just know I have tried and it hasn’t worked for me.

Keep on keeping on is a mindset I can’t process currently. It has been over a year and I have yet to take a single step into a future I did not want. The impact has been beyond telling and I am not sure is recoverable.

As I said. It’s an internal battle. Logic and reason versus pure emotion. I don’t know which will win. I only console myself with knowing that if it hurts this much after so long then it meant so much to me and I know I was in it for the right reasons. Never a doubt despite any troubles. It’s a shame it was one sided but I don’t know what I have left to take with me to try again.
 
@ShadowMan sorry to hear you are going through a tough time. Please do speak to a crisis team, as recommended by @Cromulent in his post above, if you do ever feel desperate.

I’ll share a story with you that might seem random at first but it’s really relevant.

A few years ago, I had an accident and I was getting terrible pain in my back, legs and feet. After physio only seemed to make it worse, I eventually sorted out an MRI scan that confirmed I had slipped a disc and it was crushing my nerves, causing pain in weird places. I didn’t initially want to have surgery but after I was in too much pain to even go for a walk, I opted to have it done.

At first it seemed like the surgery was a success as all the stabbing pain went away, but it never ever reaaallly went away. For years now, I’ve just been ‘coping’ with chronic pain in my back that is easily triggered and never really seemed to go away.

So about 5 years after the surgery I think, right, time for another MRI scan to see if they messed it up. The scan came back and was passed around a bunch of consultants and they all had the same conclusion: they could not identify anything physically wrong that was causing the pain. The surgery was a success and nothing was interfering with the nerve. Huh.

I was then referred to a ‘pain consultant’ who, to my great surprise, diagnosed me with a ‘pain disorder’. What he speculates has happened is that my ‘overprotective brain’, from the 9 months of agony pre-surgery, has basically massively ramped up all sensitivity of that nerve and it’s going haywire. This is a bit like when you hear about people having ‘phantom pain’ in their limbs when they have amputations. He’s given me a prescription of a drug called nortriptyline and whilst my pain has not completely gone away, it’s taken away the sharpness so it’s no longer on my mind.. so I’m not so bothered about it all the time. I have relief. It’s a very subtle difference but I think it’s helping me ‘get on with it’. I’m told I’ll need to be on it for about 6 months, at least. Seems like it’s a good result!

Now, I’m not a doctor and this post is not medical advice… but I can tell you that what I’ve described above is broadly analogous to how someone may be treated with antidepressants. I have also struggled with my mental health, have had therapy / counselling for a number of years and also have a prescription for anti-depressants, which have been a co-help with ‘mental exercises’ to help stop my mind engaging in repetitive, unhelpful behaviours. The anti-depressants have been extremely subtle and not at all how I expected they would be. A little weird at first but not affecting the core of my personality in the slightest. Incidentally, the pain medicine I mentioned is also (to my surprise at the time) an antidepressant.

I think both the counselling (over many years - it’s taken time) and both sets of drugs, for the mental health and the pain disorder, have slowly helped me find a more balanced and peaceful mindset, when accompanied by a ‘can do’ attitude and appreciating that pain, while helpful for us to heal and grow, can actually cause more problems when there is a ‘glitch’… a bit like how people’s immune system can malfunction when there’s an alergy.

Even when states of mind seem impossible to change, it’s my personal belief from my own journey that most states of mind are temporary - some of use just get ‘glitched’ into repeating them from time to time and, likewise, some of us also can’t help that we need a little help, guidance and knowledge to better enable us to deal with what life throws at us.

I hope this is helpful in some way. As said above, keep on keeping on :)
 
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After another meltdown and crisis intervention by family and friends on Sunday night I arranged to see a GP yesterday. Not because I wanted to but because I promised family and friends I would. I have been prescribed Sertraline as a start and have agreed to take it for now despite not wanting to. Also waiting on a call from mental health team.

I still feel at the bottom of everything. I’m sick of the platitudes and comments about how I will get better. People talk about future and karma like it will all work out but it just isn’t true. Not everything works out. Not everyone is happy.

The only thing that will fix me is a Time Machine and going back to a time before. I can’t have that. I’m stuck in a life I can’t enjoy and that brings pain everyday.

I’ll see how the pills go and give them some time but this is all consuming and I can’t get the brain to turn off the illogical.
 
After another meltdown and crisis intervention by family and friends on Sunday night I arranged to see a GP yesterday. Not because I wanted to but because I promised family and friends I would. I have been prescribed Sertraline as a start and have agreed to take it for now despite not wanting to. Also waiting on a call from mental health team.

I still feel at the bottom of everything. I’m sick of the platitudes and comments about how I will get better. People talk about future and karma like it will all work out but it just isn’t true. Not everything works out. Not everyone is happy.

The only thing that will fix me is a Time Machine and going back to a time before. I can’t have that. I’m stuck in a life I can’t enjoy and that brings pain everyday.

I’ll see how the pills go and give them some time but this is all consuming and I can’t get the brain to turn off the illogical.
There's not much to say to that. Sounds like an awful time you're going through. A relationship breakup can be so painful and there's no way around it. Time may help, as will introducing new routines and people in your life, but they may be the furthest things away in your mind right now. Edit: don't punish yourself or feel any worse because you are hurting. Have a good cry if you can if you haven't already.
 
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I still feel at the bottom of everything. I’m sick of the platitudes and comments about how I will get better. People talk about future and karma like it will all work out but it just isn’t true. Not everything works out. Not everyone is happy.
I don't think that everything will work out, and I'd don't believe that everyone is happy. However it's about finding some enjoyment in something no matter how small.

No new social connections and feel a burden to friends after all this time. Over a year on and I find myself still in the same place I was.
You mention no new social connections. 6 months ago my only friend was a work colleague, but I started going to Andy's Man Club initially as a coping mechanism and a way to talk about my issues, but now I go every week primarily as a social experience, to talk to the great friends I've met there and we've done a couple of social events outside the group.

I believe there are a few other types of group as well like mens sheds, so might be worth looking into something like that.


Honestly the hardest step is recognising you have a problem - which you've done. Take the next step is to walk through a door into a group and try something different
 
I did consider looking at Andy's Man's Club and actually my closest is yours. I am down the road in Bourne so its not too far. Just have to take that step. I need to get out and find something to do as 1 week out of 2. A colleague at work mentioned Men's Sheds so may have a look.

Day 2 of taking the pills and day 3 tomorrow.
 
I did consider looking at Andy's Man's Club and actually my closest is yours. I am down the road in Bourne so its not too far. Just have to take that step. I need to get out and find something to do as 1 week out of 2. A colleague at work mentioned Men's Sheds so may have a look.
I go to the Sleaford one, and there's normally between 10 and 15 of us there, so a fairly small group - and you would be more than welcome. The Stamford or Peterborough are probably a little closer, but the Peterborough group I believe has a lot more people so is a bit more "anonymous" but potentially more daunting depending on how you feel.

If you come to the Sleaford group then you can either let me know you are coming, or don't and just come anonymously (we have had plenty of people come and go so I wouldn't know anyway). 7pm every Monday, just get there 10 minutes or so before - and then leave 2 hours later having unpacked some of your problems, but also having had a laugh and feeling better than you did when you got there.

Drop me a PM if there's anything else you want to know about AMC ;)


Day 2 of taking the pills and day 3 tomorrow.
Depending on what you're on it could take between 2 and 3 weeks before they kick in, and tbh you might not necessarily notice the effect. (Certainly if you do notice the effect then the dose might be too high), the aim is just to take the edge off, not to leave you completely numb.
 
Well it's been four months of daily morning use of the SAD lamp, and I think it is actually beneficial.

It certainly doesn't cause any harm that I know of.

It takes a bit of getting used to, having a blindingly bright light shining at you at breakfast, but since September my usual hatred of autumn and the lack of sunshine has been absent.

I've even tried to see some beauty in the barren trees and landscape.

Saying all that, roll on spring!!
 
I had a terrible Christmas period, I always dislike it as it's just 2 weeks of enforced family commitments, falling out of routine and sleeping too much in the lack of daylight. This one was a bit worse than the last few but managed to just pass through it and get back to normal on 2nd January.

I did go for a walk with my partner on new year's day though, which was good. I struggle with getting outside enough/getting enough light. January has since been pretty good, with a walk every weekend. If I can keep it up for the rest of January I'll be happy, feels like achieving something.
 
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