The New Ashes of the Singularity Bench

Kaapstad · 28 Feb 2016 at 13:23

Telecaster said:
Single 780 @ 1228/1500
4690k @ 4.5
1080p

== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 4
Physical Memory: 16332 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.005081 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 29.685232 FPS (33.686783 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 28.365286 FPS (35.254360 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 80.005775 FPS (12.499098 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 59.157867 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7685.589844 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 15887.421875 Batches
==========================================================================

Do you have the screenshot please.

TheMorningStar · 28 Feb 2016 at 14:10

Kaapstad said:
You have to launch it from your game library not an icon or tile.

Cheers mate, that's sorted it.

Dygaza · 28 Feb 2016 at 16:00

Kaapstad said:

For me it shows 3.9GB + 3.2GB video memory from ram (this doesn't mean total would be 7.1GB). Never even paid attention that gpu-z actually shows gpu memory reserved from system ram on AMD aswell.

1080p uses 3.9GB + 2.6GB

Telecaster · 28 Feb 2016 at 16:22

Kaapstad said:
Do you have the screenshot please.

Nope, sorry. Only did it for a laugh as a 780 is hardly going to be troubling the top of the list.

Kaapstad · 28 Feb 2016 at 17:56

Telecaster said:
Nope, sorry. Only did it for a laugh as a 780 is hardly going to be troubling the top of the list.

If you can post the rest of the log file the information I need is on there.

It would be interesting to see it as your score is very competitive with a GTX 970.

peahead · 28 Feb 2016 at 18:51

I guess you need to own this game to run the benchmark or is there a demo available?

thebennyboy · 28 Feb 2016 at 19:04

peahead said:
I guess you need to own this game to run the benchmark or is there a demo available?

You need to own it, it's on offer for £19.99 this weekend tho: http://store.steampowered.com/app/228880/

Kaapstad · 28 Feb 2016 at 19:36

Fury X @1170/545
5960X @4.5
16.2
1080p

==========================================================================
Oxide Games
Ashes Benchmark Test - ©2015
C:\Users\Keve\Documents\My Games\Ashes of the Singularity\Benchmarks\Output_16_02_28_1919.txt
Version 0.90.17585
02/28/2016 19:23
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== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: AMD Radeon (TM) R9 Fury Series
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz
Physical Cores: 8
Logical Cores: 16
Physical Memory: 16253 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.000805 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 54.279240 FPS (18.423250 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 52.501194 FPS (19.047186 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 108.017891 FPS (9.257726 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 25.016302 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7693.006836 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 16357.935547 Batches
==========================================================================

== Results ===============================================================
BenchMark 0
TestType: Full System Test
== Sub Mark Normal Batch =================================================
Total Time: 71.008545 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 62.062954 FPS (16.112673 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 58.997360 FPS (16.949911 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 133.250168 FPS (7.504681 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 58.696461 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 5843.875977 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 6373.634277 Batches
== Sub Mark Medium Batch =================================================
Total Time: 55.973183 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 56.777191 FPS (17.612707 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 54.788319 FPS (18.252066 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 105.712570 FPS (9.459613 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 14.555170 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7177.960449 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 13291.517578 Batches
== Sub Mark Heavy Batch =================================================
Total Time: 53.020683 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 46.415848 FPS (21.544365 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 45.579723 FPS (21.939579 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 92.516502 FPS (10.808883 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 1.797277 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 9209.666016 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 29408.650391 Batches
=========================================================================

Telecaster · 28 Feb 2016 at 19:43

Kaapstad said:
If you can post the rest of the log file the information I need is on there.

It would be interesting to see it as your score is very competitive with a GTX 970.

Ok cool, which part of the log file, it's really long!!

Will this do it?

==========================================================================
Oxide Games
Ashes Benchmark Test - ©2015
C:\Users\Matt\Documents\My Games\Ashes of the Singularity\Benchmarks\Output_16_02_28_1307.txt
Version 0.90.17585
02/28/2016 13:10
==========================================================================

== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 4
Physical Memory: 16332 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.005081 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 29.685232 FPS (33.686783 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 28.365286 FPS (35.254360 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 80.005775 FPS (12.499098 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 59.157867 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7685.589844 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 15887.421875 Batches
==========================================================================

== Results ===============================================================
BenchMark 0
TestType: Full System Test
== Sub Mark Normal Batch =================================================
Total Time: 70.974060 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 31.898979 FPS (31.348967 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 29.746241 FPS (33.617695 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 93.691719 FPS (10.673303 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 53.047329 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 4665.773438 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 6231.674316 Batches
== Sub Mark Medium Batch =================================================
Total Time: 56.004726 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 29.711779 FPS (33.656685 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 27.987381 FPS (35.730389 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 85.118568 FPS (11.748318 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 60.298180 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7420.953125 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 12747.382813 Batches
== Sub Mark Heavy Batch =================================================
Total Time: 53.036453 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 27.735640 FPS (36.054691 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 27.461218 FPS (36.414993 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 66.332031 FPS (15.075672 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 64.128090 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 10037.966797 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 28683.208984 Batches
=========================================================================

Kaapstad · 28 Feb 2016 at 22:42

Telecaster said:
Ok cool, which part of the log file, it's really long!!

Will this do it?

==========================================================================
Oxide Games
Ashes Benchmark Test - ©2015
C:\Users\Matt\Documents\My Games\Ashes of the Singularity\Benchmarks\Output_16_02_28_1307.txt
Version 0.90.17585
02/28/2016 13:10
==========================================================================

== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 4
Physical Memory: 16332 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.005081 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 29.685232 FPS (33.686783 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 28.365286 FPS (35.254360 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 80.005775 FPS (12.499098 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 59.157867 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7685.589844 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 15887.421875 Batches
==========================================================================

== Results ===============================================================
BenchMark 0
TestType: Full System Test
== Sub Mark Normal Batch =================================================
Total Time: 70.974060 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 31.898979 FPS (31.348967 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 29.746241 FPS (33.617695 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 93.691719 FPS (10.673303 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 53.047329 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 4665.773438 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 6231.674316 Batches
== Sub Mark Medium Batch =================================================
Total Time: 56.004726 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 29.711779 FPS (33.656685 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 27.987381 FPS (35.730389 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 85.118568 FPS (11.748318 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 60.298180 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7420.953125 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 12747.382813 Batches
== Sub Mark Heavy Batch =================================================
Total Time: 53.036453 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 27.735640 FPS (36.054691 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 27.461218 FPS (36.414993 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 66.332031 FPS (15.075672 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 64.128090 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 10037.966797 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 28683.208984 Batches
=========================================================================

Thanks and on the Scoreboard.

h4rm0ny · 29 Feb 2016 at 10:30

David Bisset said:
While I conceptually agree in the real world where games cost a lot to make I'd rather the dev budget was focused on systems people actually have rather than a super tiny part of the potential user-base. It's not like there are no bugs to fix, no performance optimisations left to do, no storyline improvements that could be made etc etc.

I suppose. Though I feel it should be relatively easy to start with very high quality textures for example, and then easily create downgraded versions of those without impacting development costs too much. I don't know enough about other areas to comment but the main point I was making, is the one Dygaza said below (maybe more clearly), which is that the first reaction on seeing you need high end hardware to play on Ultra should not be "this game is badly written". It could easily be an indicator that the developers have put in more effort to fully support the range of hardware people use. If they get damned for doing so, there's little incentive for them to keep doing it.

How many times have I seen people complaining that their high-end hardware isn't actually needed? Really, I find FPS a poor indicator of quality for a game's graphical performance. It's just used because it's a simple number to grasp. But many people play happily on 30FPS. Above 60FPS, I accept that it makes a difference, but not that it makes an important difference.

Give me shadows and lighting and sub-surface scattering and textures so big I could roll around on them. I've never watched a HD movie and felt it suffered because it was playing at <60fps.

Dygaza said:
People in general has very wrong idea about settings. Think about this benchmark for example. Ultra now consists of 16/16M samples. When Ultra on previous patch was 16M/32M samples.(You can still use higher settings than game options allow you to).

Why I mention this? Simply because people assume that when they move from game to another and suddenly they have to drop settings from ultra to high, they don't realise that the high they are now forced to use, could actually be better setting than ultra in previous game was.

There is no shame in lowering detail levels.

I am personally playing with superb settings

ShadingSamples=32
TerrainShadingSamples=32
4xMSAA

Next level would be Kaapsgod setting, where you increase msaa to 8X (dunno if the game supports higher than that)

Seriously, I feel it's quite hard for developers to decide with default settings, as they know that if they give too high ultra settings, people will call it's badly optimised. Yet, you kinda wish after few years after that you're game would have that extra level of settings to be used when your new card is too powerfull for it. Maybe fully dynamic detail level would be nice.

This puts it very well

andybird123 · 29 Feb 2016 at 10:42

h4rm0ny said:
I've never watched a HD movie and felt it suffered because it was playing at <60fps.
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the way movies are shot and processed, they include a massive dose of motion blur, you don't notice a problem with movies running at 24fps because of the massive amounts of processing that go in to hiding that fact

Kaapstad · 29 Feb 2016 at 17:22

Single TitanX @1501/2002
5960X @4.0
1440p
361.91

==========================================================================
Oxide Games
Ashes Benchmark Test - ©2015
C:\Users\Keve\Documents\My Games\Ashes of the Singularity\Benchmarks\Output_16_02_29_1707.txt
Version 0.90.17585
02/29/2016 17:11
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== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz
Physical Cores: 8
Logical Cores: 16
Physical Memory: 16253 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 2560x1440
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.002113 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 45.483288 FPS (21.986097 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 43.946152 FPS (22.755121 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 103.618828 FPS (9.650756 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 25.142139 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 6861.323730 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 18100.597656 Batches
==========================================================================

== Results ===============================================================
BenchMark 0
TestType: Full System Test
== Sub Mark Normal Batch =================================================
Total Time: 70.978302 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 51.339634 FPS (19.478128 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 48.860912 FPS (20.466257 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 144.010071 FPS (6.943959 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 53.465034 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 5170.926270 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 6552.774902 Batches
== Sub Mark Medium Batch =================================================
Total Time: 56.058918 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 45.148930 FPS (22.148920 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 44.041634 FPS (22.705788 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 101.801506 FPS (9.823037 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 16.554399 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 6251.614746 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 13722.001953 Batches
== Sub Mark Heavy Batch =================================================
Total Time: 52.969116 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 41.099419 FPS (24.331244 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 39.851250 FPS (25.093317 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 82.066292 FPS (12.185271 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 5.406987 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 8082.617188 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 34027.015625 Batches
=========================================================================

Kaapstad · 1 Mar 2016 at 02:28

2 x TitanX @1492/2002
5960X @4.0
1440p
361.91

==========================================================================
Oxide Games
Ashes Benchmark Test - ©2015
C:\Users\Keve\Documents\My Games\Ashes of the Singularity\Benchmarks\Output_16_03_01_0209.txt
Version 0.90.17585
03/01/2016 02:13
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== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz
Physical Cores: 8
Logical Cores: 16
Physical Memory: 16253 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 2560x1440
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.000942 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 80.475647 FPS (12.426119 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 79.399559 FPS (12.594528 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 100.078705 FPS (9.992136 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 3950.214600 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 18245.164063 Batches
==========================================================================

== Results ===============================================================
BenchMark 0
TestType: Full System Test
== Sub Mark Normal Batch =================================================
Total Time: 70.984299 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 89.808594 FPS (11.134792 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 87.941895 FPS (11.371145 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 108.838882 FPS (9.187893 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 1697.081299 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 6676.688477 Batches
== Sub Mark Medium Batch =================================================
Total Time: 55.997238 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 80.003944 FPS (12.499384 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 79.057770 FPS (12.648978 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 98.744339 FPS (10.127163 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 3587.263184 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 13970.930664 Batches
== Sub Mark Heavy Batch =================================================
Total Time: 53.021282 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 73.291321 FPS (13.644180 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 72.656143 FPS (13.763461 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 93.796753 FPS (10.661349 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7515.744629 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 34087.875000 Batches
=========================================================================

Kaapstad · 1 Mar 2016 at 13:41

2 x TitanX @1492/2002
5960X @4.0
1600p
361.91

==========================================================================
Oxide Games
Ashes Benchmark Test - ©2015
C:\Users\Keve\Documents\My Games\Ashes of the Singularity\Benchmarks\Output_16_03_01_1333.txt
Version 0.90.17585
03/01/2016 13:37
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== Hardware Configuration ================================================
GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz
Physical Cores: 8
Logical Cores: 16
Physical Memory: 16253 MB
Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB
==========================================================================

== Configuration =========================================================
API: DirectX 12
==========================================================================
Quality Preset: Custom
==========================================================================

Resolution: 2560x1600
Fullscreen: True
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
Glare Quality: High
Shading Samples: 16 million
Terrain Shading Samples: 16 million
Shadow Quality: High
Temporal AA Duration: 0
Temporal AA Time Slice: 0
Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 8x
Texture Rank : 1

== Total Avg Results =================================================
Total Time: 60.000877 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 78.692299 FPS (12.707724 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 77.640533 FPS (12.879870 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 101.393082 FPS (9.862605 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 3653.220459 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 16909.039063 Batches
==========================================================================

== Results ===============================================================
BenchMark 0
TestType: Full System Test
== Sub Mark Normal Batch =================================================
Total Time: 71.023331 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 88.914444 FPS (11.246767 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 86.911667 FPS (11.505936 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 108.983398 FPS (9.175710 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 1506.598877 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 5915.696777 Batches
== Sub Mark Medium Batch =================================================
Total Time: 55.997246 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 78.771736 FPS (12.694909 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 77.905487 FPS (12.836066 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 101.043159 FPS (9.896761 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 3349.938965 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 13029.861328 Batches
== Sub Mark Heavy Batch =================================================
Total Time: 52.982048 ms per frame
Avg Framerate: 70.514450 FPS (14.181490 ms)
Weighted Framerate: 69.941750 FPS (14.297612 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 95.099106 FPS (10.515347 ms)
Percent GPU Bound: 0.000000 %
Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 7192.922852 Batches
Average Batches per frame: 31781.556641 Batches
=========================================================================

GoogalyMoogaly · 1 Mar 2016 at 14:02

Bloody GameWorks again, always used to make Nvidia look better than AMD...

Oh no wait, this is a game by a developer that favours AMD and AMD are generally winning, must be unbiased then!

But seriously, I take it these are DX12 benchmarks? How is DX12 comparing to DX11 now? In the early days didn't DX11 still perform better in this game? Have they improved the DX12 performance now?

muziqaz · 1 Mar 2016 at 15:29

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Bloody GameWorks again, always used to make Nvidia look better than AMD...

Oh no wait, this is a game by a developer that favours AMD and AMD are generally winning, must be unbiased then!

But seriously, I take it these are DX12 benchmarks? How is DX12 comparing to DX11 now? In the early days didn't DX11 still perform better in this game? Have they improved the DX12 performance now?

dev bias ends when they starts coding for DX12. If nvidia cut corners on dx12 feature sets its their problem. It is good that some of devs resist gameworks scam and actually try to innovate, especially with DX12 pioneering. When one realises what he/she is actually benching, it is quite amazing it can be run.
Imagine the same amount of draw calls in Starcraft or Total War series? It gets messy very quick

Gregster · 1 Mar 2016 at 15:53

I wonder if this bench was using ROVs and Conservative Rasterization if it would be classed as innovation or the tin foil hats would be worn and NVidia had paid off the devs to use those techs? It does come across at times that what NVidia do, it is wrong and AMD can never do wrong.

muziqaz · 1 Mar 2016 at 16:08

Gregster said:
I wonder if this bench was using ROVs and Conservative Rasterization if it would be classed as innovation or the tin foil hats would be worn and NVidia had paid off the devs to use those techs? It does come across at times that what NVidia do, it is wrong and AMD can never do wrong.

Greg, you have 80% of the market thinking whatever AMD is doing it is doing it wrong, so stop moaning. nVidia was welcome to suggest those features to be used by Ashes devs, yet they chose to try to force devs to remove async shaders. There is always a pattern on how nvidia does business and on how AMD does it.

Kaapstad · 1 Mar 2016 at 17:43

Could do with some more AMD scores please.