The New European Super (borefest) League

Maybe it is a good thing all these clubs will go off and do their own thing, it's an extension of other parts of life... rich/elitism and everyone else that doesnt matter.

If all these super league clubs get lost and do whatever they want with their worldwide "fans", whatever. Maybe we can start football again in this country, the Premier League aren't saints but it is now an opportunity to start afresh. Yeh the quality will just drop off a cliff but it can be started with better intentions and we can learn from the mistakes everyone has made over the last few decades. Hopefully the "super" league clubs will form breakaway clubs that will stay local, almost like the real Liverpool will just end up being some crap pub team competing in our new rubbish premier league, but it will be what it was back in the day, true local clubs.

Maybe in a 100years we will just have the same issue again. As for the super league clubs, they will just be some franchise logo that travels the world, just become a bit of an event than a sport.
 
For th fans of these clubs. Lets say this is some mad power play, it all dies down and they get what the want in the CL. What happens then?

Im not sure i could support Liverpool after all this until FSG are gone.
 
mmj_uk said:
It's a similar argument, all of this "football is for the fans" and yet football was taken away from the people on terrestrial TV and made subscription only on Sky, how is that not greedy anti-fan behaviour? the Premier League was founded in the same sort of way with breakaway clubs looking for a bigger pot of gold.
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Because the Premier League at least allowed competition through ANY three teams being relegated. If you'd said in the mid 90s or early 00s that Newcastle, Blackburn and Leeds would have spent many of the subsequent years out of the PL nobody would have believed you, but it's happened. If you'd said 20 years ago that Leicester would have won the league but City would be the dominant force in the country, nobody would have believed you.

No team has a right to be at the top table without the fear of losing that if they can't back it with performances, but that's exactly what the ESL does for these teams.
 
Ayahuasca said:
It's not the same type of situation at all, three years after the PL formed Blackburn won it... Since then they've been as low as League 1 for a season.
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Yes but that was the beginning whilst money was still in its infancy. Blackburn also spent big money as well. Do not forget that. Money has always been at the forefront. When Forest won the European cup twice people forget they had the first million pound player in Trevor Francis. It is just then the gaps in richness were not as big. Middlesbrough in 1996 signed Ravenelli who won a champions League the previous year yet got relegated that season! Money seemed more spread out back then.

The problem we have now is that the money has just sky rocketed in the wrong direction with all these oil barons being able to buy clubs. Yes Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal would still be the highest earners as they have money from being successful but the league would have been a lot closer and the money being spent wouldn't have gotten ridiculous.

Premier League has itself to blame for this just as much letting all these dodgy owners in as it has been purely an exercise of lining pockets for themselves. It is just now that these rich owners have realised they can control it all themselves without some third party.

For me at least all this has done is open up my eyes to realise that football has been dead for a lot longer than the past couple of days.
 
Nice statement posted by Everton.

Everton is saddened and disappointed to see proposals of a breakaway league pushed forward by six clubs.

Six clubs acting entirely in their own interests.

Six clubs tarnishing the reputation of our league and the game.

Six clubs choosing to disrespect every other club with whom they sit around the Premier League table.

Six clubs taking for granted and even betraying the majority of football supporters across our country and beyond.

At this time of national and international crisis - and a defining period for our game - clubs should be working together collaboratively with the ideals of our game and its supporters uppermost.

Instead, these clubs have been secretly conspiring to break away from a football pyramid that has served them so well.

And in that Pyramid Everton salutes EVERY club, be it Leicester City, Accrington Stanley, Gillingham, Lincoln City, Morecambe, Southend United, Notts County and the rest who have, with their very being, enriched the lives of their supporters throughout the game's history. And vice versa.

The self-proclaimed Super Six appear intent on disenfranchising supporters across the game - including their own - by putting the very structure that underpins the game we love under threat.

The backlash is understandable and deserved – and has to be listened to.

This preposterous arrogance is not wanted anywhere in football outside of the clubs that have drafted this plan.

On behalf of everyone associated with Everton, we respectfully ask that the proposals are immediately withdrawn and that the private meetings and subversive practises that have brought our beautiful game to possibly its lowest ever position in terms of trust end now.

Finally we would ask the owners, chairmen, and Board members of the six clubs to remember the privileged position they hold – not only as custodians of their clubs but also custodians of the game. The responsibility they carry should be taken seriously.

We urge them all to consider what they wish their legacy to be.

Everton FC Board of Directors
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mmj_uk said:
It's a similar argument, all of this "football is for the fans" and yet football was taken away from the people on terrestrial TV and made subscription only on Sky, how is that not greedy anti-fan behaviour? the Premier League was founded in the same sort of way with breakaway clubs looking for a bigger pot of gold.
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And yet many fans still mug themselves off by paying the premium to watch it.

Be the same if this ESL happens, fans/ex footballers in up roar now, but then many will still go and watch it, and the ex football pundits will jump at the chance to sit in the new shiny studio talking about the match.
 
ThundyCat said:
Could the players refuse to play in these games? Or would that be in breach of their contracts?
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They'd probably be in breach of their contracts, although from the sounds of it they may have an argument that the club was in breach of contract first. There's going to be a lot of litigation issued around this
 
Just seen the James Corden, never really thought much of him but he is spot on about it.

Hopefully people don't just submit and forget about all this whilst end up watching this new crap.

Shame the audience were Americans.
 
ThundyCat said:
Could the players refuse to play in these games? Or would that be in breach of their contracts?
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This is a huge can of worms. You'll have players at these clubs that will have clauses in their contracts allowing them to leave for x amount if they're not in the CL. If players were banned from competing in any particular competition I'm sure they'd argue that breached their contract (I know there was some chat around City players possibly having this claim had they been banned from the CL).

I'm just reading an Athletic article now by Matt Slater and he's suggesting that the only way this League would go ahead is if they get FIFA approval, in which case threats to ban players from Leagues and International competition would be dead in the water.
 
lemonkettaz said:
Just seen the James Corden, never really thought much of him but he is spot on about it.

Hopefully people don't just submit and forget about all this whilst end up watching this new crap.

Shame the audience were Americans.
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I thought it was good that they were American actually, it made him explain it as basically as possible (to be clear, not criticising the US, just that they don't have our structure for sport there)
 
I think this may well go ahead. As Gary Neville suggested, the people behind it don't really care what people think about them, they only care about money (Glazers, Abramovich, Kroenke, Perez).

These plans will make them a lot of money, and UK based fans won't abandon their clubs (no matter what people say). If UEFA ban all of the top teams, their own competition becomes worthless.

I don't agree with it, but it can't be overstated how much of footballs global appeal and money comes from the elite clubs.
 
BaZ87 said:
This is a huge can of worms. You'll have players at these clubs that will have clauses in their contracts allowing them to leave for x amount if they're not in the CL. If players were banned from competing in any particular competition I'm sure they'd argue that breached their contract (I know there was some chat around City players possibly having this claim had they been banned from the CL).

I'm just reading an Athletic article now by Matt Slater and he's suggesting that the only way this League would go ahead is if they get FIFA approval, in which case threats to ban players from Leagues and International competition would be dead in the water.
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How do you feel about it Baz, you're a die hard Pool fan. You must be devastated mate? I know if Everton had done that I would have lost the plot.
 
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