The New European Super (borefest) League

I saw some argument yesterday about this competition being good as so many clubs were having debts and therefor need more money. What about simply just not pay insane wages for players? I know they have short careers but are they really worth 3-400k a week?
 
mmj_uk said:
MLS which seems to be the model they're following had it's first season in 1996 with 10 teams and it has 27 now. Any club that becomes worthy enough will be invited to join on a permanent basis you can be sure of that.
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The MLS is tragic, I wouldn't be surprised if the US fans watch more premier league than they do MLS.
 
FMF said:
I disagree, I don't think either Chelsea or man city owners are in it for the money, it's their play thing.

Its the American owners that are the problem Glazers. Kronke and FSG. They don't like the fact that a pretty much nailed on top 4/5 has expanded and they don't like missing out on the CL money.

With Bayern giving a firm no I don't see how this can work as no European clubs are going to risk the potential fallout for not a guaranteed spot. So it's a league of 12 not 20, pretty boring of you ask me
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Chelsea possibly but City's investment is about money, just not in the same way as the Glazers or Henry. Abu Dhabi are trying to ease their reliance on oil and owning City is part of their plan to promote the state and specifically paint a different picture of it than what many had. Similarly, although not financial, Abramovic's ownership of Chelsea was at least partially motivated for political/security reasons - he wants and needs Chelsea to be part of the highest profile League as possible.

Anyway, I think you misread the post - I was referring to the non breakaway clubs. Whether that be Ashley at Newcastle, the Americans at Burnley or Moshiri at Everton, their ownerships are financial investments and they won't do something, like kicking the big 6 out (I don't think they could anyway) or forming their own League, as it would be financial suicide.
 
I think they have to take a hard line not doing so is loss in the long run the only way they can "win" is if the big six stay
 
neviditelny said:
I saw some argument yesterday about this competition being good as so many clubs were having debts and therefor need more money. What about simply just not pay insane wages for players? I know they have short careers but are they really worth 3-400k a week?
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What is hilarious, the wages and transfer fees are only as high as they are because of these 12 clubs, they keep bidding themselves up.

Hopefully they have shafted themselves now the have the attention of governments, regulations may end up ruining their plans and they could be worse off than what they have now.
 
FMF said:
Those clubs were set up to specifically join the MLS though no?
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yeah but there's no shortage of clubs already set up in Europe, they just want big world renown brand names which is why Arsenal/Spurs are joining. I'm sure that over time you'll get more clubs joining and there'll be a split from domestic leagues.
 
neviditelny said:
I saw some argument yesterday about this competition being good as so many clubs were having debts and therefor need more money. What about simply just not pay insane wages for players? I know they have short careers but are they really worth 3-400k a week?
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Pet peeve of mine when people use the world 'simply' to describe a solution that is anything but simple. If you decide overnight to pay your players less, breach of contract. If you try and do it over time, you won't sign good enough players and you'll get relegated. How on earth could it be simple to just pay players less?
 
Nationalisation only really works for something that everyone wants/needs and is difficult to copy and run more efficiently in the private sector.
In this scenario you could have a nationalised football structure and the best players just go elsewhere where they will earn more money.
 
dl8860 said:
Pet peeve of mine when people use the world 'simply' to describe a solution that is anything but simple. If you decide overnight to pay your players less, breach of contract. If you try and do it over time, you won't sign good enough players and you'll get relegated. How on earth could it be simple to just pay players less?
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That is the problem the clubs have gotten themselves into though. It is harder than to simply not pay the higher wages. I don't mean to not change their contracts now, but football is shooting themselves in the foot with the prices that have been pushed up in the last 10-15 years. If I remember correct, when Pompey went bankrupt, didn't they pay like 110% of their income in wages or something like that? There is after all reasons why the North American sports tend to have salary caps.
 
GIBURROWS said:
The government can't do a thing, if they could do anything then these guys would just move the clubs abroad, Chelsea may have to as the ground is owned by the pitch owners.
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The government has all the fiscal strings, it can tax. It also makes rules on who can travel, who can work in the country particularly now after Brexit.
Maybe a team called Liverpool can operate from the Emirates but they would not be happy bunnies, more like extremely well paid modern slaves.
 
neviditelny said:
That is the problem the clubs have gotten themselves into though. It is harder than to simply not pay the higher wages. I don't mean to not change their contracts now, but football is shooting themselves in the foot with the prices that have been pushed up in the last 10-15 years. If I remember correct, when Pompey went bankrupt, didn't they pay like 110% of their income in wages or something like that? There is after all reasons why the North American sports tend to have salary caps.
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Sure, I agree that more sustainable and level player salaries can only be a good thing. Like I said, I just get irrationally angry at improper use of the word 'simply' in proposed solutions :)
 
dl8860 said:
Sure, I agree that more sustainable and level player salaries can only be a good thing. Like I said, I just get irrationally angry at improper use of the word 'simply' in proposed solutions :)
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I can understand that. Something needs to be done about the wages. I know you can't really compare prices between various fields, but as a contrast, there is talk about Haaland going to cost about 150 million euros in the summer. The hospital I work at cost £150 million to build...
 
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