The next James Bond could be...

Idris is just wrong for the role (and no, it's not because of the colour of his skin). Similar problem with Tom Hardy. Fassbender and McAvoy are a bit typecast now. Damian Lewis is too ginger (;)). Henry Cavill would have been fantastic, but The Man From Uncle means he's off the table.

Hiddleston isn't the worst name attached to the role. Decent actor. Assuming his role as Loki in the Marvel movies is drawing toward it's end, he's got plenty of space in his schedule to do Bond and a bunch of small projects. TBH I'd prefer Hiddleston to second favourite, Aided Turner AKA Emo Bond.

I'm tempted to take an outside punt on Jack O'Connell (25/1) or Raza Jaffrey (33/1). To me, this conversation is going the usual way; a bunch of flavour of the month actors and big names are mentioned in connection with a big role. Some of them realistic (Hiddleston, Cavill) others, not (Hardy, Lewis). The announcement comes, and it's someone much less well known (Turner, O'Connell, Jaffrey), better suited to the role than half of the big names mentioned.
 
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Nothing stupid about my or your opinions at all. My point is the author wrote bonds background and that background put him as a white male. To cast a black actor we would have to rewrite the background.

As for bond being a code name, no. Q and M are designations and can be filled by anyone - bond is bond.

But as stated just an opinion.
 
ivrytwr3 said:
My point is the author wrote bonds background and that background put him as a white male. To cast a black actor we would have to rewrite the background.
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If this were 1953 when the books started you might have a point but it's not, the movies are set in present day where I can't see much reason Bond's background couldn't be applied to a black male. After all it's basically just that his rich parent's died when he was 11 and was raised by an aunt and travelled a lot.
 
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Moving on from the norm? Then it isn't Bond.

I am not disputing Idris isn't a fantastic actor, but he isn't Bond - give him his own spy movie; why Bond?

Superman is everything about USA - how about a black Superman?

While we are at it, how about Tom Hanks playing Martin Luther King or John Travolta playing Nelson Mandela?

As for your comment about Connery been Scottish, well if he can play a Spaniard with a Scottish accent and get away with it............!!
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If RDJr can play a white guy playing a black guy why not lol
 
Have you guys seen the pics of Idris Elba as Roland Deschaine in the upcoming Dark Tower series. The character in the book is clearly defined as being a white, lanky, somewhat stuck up (-to begin with), dude, that was said to have had a passing resemblance to Clint Eastwood. That is an essential part of his character, and it absolutely affects his interactions with other key characters.

Hollywood doesn't care. Does it matter that the die-hard fans of the book will feel like their beloved character has been pooed on? Nope.

So in the argument about having a black actor playing a clearly defined white guy role, it doesn't matter, Hollywood will do something idiotic (also see Ghost in the shell re. Scarlett Johansson).
I guess for Bond it could be another reboot (yay) and his history could be altered.
 
I think they should just leave Bond alone now. The last good Bond film was Casino Royale IMO.

The only way for me that it could work again would be to set the films in the 60s again. The modern world and Bond don't really gel. They made a thing of this in the last films where Bond was seen as outdated and it was kind of a meta moment where you think even the protagonist is not really respected in his own film anymore...

The Cold War and Spectre went together perfectly. The clothes, the cars the hotels it was all so stylish. That world has gone now and sadly this is no world for a gentleman spy.

Off to watch Dr No lol
 
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ivrytwr3 said:
As for your comment about Connery been Scottish, well if he can play a Spaniard with a Scottish accent and get away with it............!!
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Or a Russian U-Boat captain (Hunt for Red October) or an Irish-American policeman in Chicago (The Untouchables) or an Englishman (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen amongst others). If you mean his role in Highlander I think he was technically supposed to be an Egyptian nobleman - granted it would be easy not to pick up that subtlety with Sir Sean's unwillingness or inability to modify his accent at all.

Thinking about it a bit more there's an argument that they should stop making Bond films now, they've exhausted all the source material and a new spy series might be more appropriate without the hangups or preconceptions of some of the existing fanbase.
 
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Have you guys seen the pics of Idris Elba as Roland Deschaine in the upcoming Dark Tower series. The character in the book is clearly defined as being a white, lanky, somewhat stuck up (-to begin with), dude, that was said to have had a passing resemblance to Clint Eastwood. That is an essential part of his character, and it absolutely affects his interactions with other key characters.

Hollywood doesn't care. Does it matter that the die-hard fans of the book will feel like their beloved character has been pooed on? Nope.
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White, lanky and looks a bit like Clint Eastwood have nothing to do with his character ;) - only somewhat stuck-up would, and really doesn't describe Roland at all.

It's been a few years since I went through the Dark Tower books, but the only interaction I can think it would change is with Detta - and changing "hates whites" to "hates men" isn't going to make any difference to the causal observer.

As for the die-hard fans of the book - well, they will have to be die-hard fans of Sai King, and he is absolutely on-board with Elba's casting

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To me, the color of the gunslinger doesn't matter. What I care about is how fast he can draw...and that he takes care of the ka-tet.
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Stephen King said:
I think [Elba's] a terrific actor, I think he's one of the best actors working in the business now. And Matthew McConaughey is a terrific actor. They're both great. And the idea of seeing the two of them in opposition of each other is very exciting to me
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He invented the guy, that must have some sway, surely?

Plunk13 said:
So in the argument about having a black actor playing a clearly defined white guy role, it doesn't matter, Hollywood will do something idiotic (also see Ghost in the shell re. Scarlett Johansson).
I guess for Bond it could be another reboot (yay) and his history could be altered.
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A clearly defined FICTIONAL white guy role. It's not like we're talking about Elba playing Churchill.

And isn't every Bond essentially a reboot?
 
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