Why is it... what effect do you think changing skin colour will have that changing hair colour would not?
The next James Bond could be...
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Why is it... what effect do you think changing skin colour will have that changing hair colour would not?
Soldato
Exactly, Batman and Bond both have a long history/canon yet you, for instance, a big Batman fan, would have no issue Batman being black, although, given its America, a pair of black parents being shot wouldnt have the same sort of effect as a pair of white parents being shot so the whole backstory would play out differently
Soldato
Associate
Live and let die is fairly inexpensive
Soldato
Othello is a fictional character. Would you be happy with Leo Di Caprio playing him?
How about a remake of Django Unchained with Adam Sandler as Django?
New Shaft! with Eric Bana as John Shaft. In The Heat of the Night redone with Liam Neeson as Virgil Tibbs.
Man of Honour
Bond isn't real. He's a fictional character. Heck 007 is just a code name so it could be assigned to another "Bond" once the previous Bond is retired (in all sense of the words).
so it makes no odds if he's black, white, Chinese or even a woman. If the shoe fits... Ideas and stories evolve, things change, I think one should remain open minded and see how things are. A story is a story you can make it up as you go along.
I don't know if Idris has the right "thing" for Bond, but I'd certainly love to see him giving it a go to prove that he has got it.
so it makes no odds if he's black, white, Chinese or even a woman. If the shoe fits... Ideas and stories evolve, things change, I think one should remain open minded and see how things are. A story is a story you can make it up as you go along.
I don't know if Idris has the right "thing" for Bond, but I'd certainly love to see him giving it a go to prove that he has got it.
Soldato
What?! Bond isn't real?! Wha da **** ......!! 
Man of Honour
Ok that would make sense... make a continuation of the world with a new black agent. That I could believe.
Soldato
Playing a different 00 agent that isn't Bond would be all cool.
Caporegime
The point is that race is an intrinsic factor in those characters because the stories concern race, racism, etc. I've yet to see it explained why race is intrinsic to Bond, particularly in the modern day when it's harder to argue a white establishment that would only employ white spies, or whatever.
With that in mind, I'd probably actually disagree with Tummy earlier saying that Statham could have played Stringer Bell, because The Wire also majored on race and the fact that it was a black drugs gang. That's not to say that there aren't white drugs gang, but Bell's gang was black. Would a black Baltimore drugs gang have been led by a white guy? Very unlikely. But that's the point of the character and the story, it's not at all incidental. I don't see how Bond's skin colour is anything but incidental.
Caporegime
OK, fair enough, I hadn't thought of it that way, much as it has crossed my mind in the past. It should have been more prominent in my mind what with the end of Skyfall.
Caporegime
Given that 007 isn't supposed to be terribly charming, I wouldn't have said that mattered
Soldato
I don't see why we couldn't see what other 00's get up to and it would give an opportunity to have a different type of agent that doesn't adhere to the Bond archetype.
There would always be comparisons though, and maybe there is only room for one.
Caporegime
Well, 006 turned out to be quite a nasty piece of work.
Yes I agree you can have a different person as 007, as it's simply a codename, so anyone could be 007, quite how well that would go down though to start with would be an interesting one, I could see a lot of backlash, but it would be an interesting spin off series perhaps.
Indeed.
Soldato
006 didn't get his own movie
Yeah, 007 could be anyone. Bond himself though...
Yeah, 007 could be anyone. Bond himself though...
Man of Honour
Given that 007 isn't supposed to be terribly charming, I wouldn't have said that mattered
A fair bit of the Bond stories has needed adaptation to make it suitable for a modern audience - he's essentially a misogynistic, womanising, amoral killer and yet the rougher edges have been smoothed off in the name of artistic licence so I'm not sure why the colour of his skin should be judged inviolate.
Does either of those names tell you the race of those people in an absolute sense? The second name appears to be French (French-Swiss if the book is what you're taking it from) but you're not going to seriously suggest there are no black French people are you? Andrew Bond as a name doesn't seem to imply anything much about the race of the person either.