The next James Bond could be...
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Caporegime
That was sort of my first reaction, but I've been won round by this sort of argument:
Soi I questioned myself and my only thought now is that Elba is a brilliant actor and would make a thoroughly enjoyable and excellent Bond. That's all that really matters. Try not to look upon him as a black man, he's just a really good actor and that's it.
Ok a question from another perspective... could Jason Statham have played Stringer Bell?
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Has Daniel Craig packed in?
Caporegime
No, and Idris Elba isn't even interested. This is just something that came out of all the guff that was leaked by the Sony hackers. Someone on the inside had suggested Elba as a future Bond.
Soldato
Of course, apart from breasts, it was just better. White or black shouldn't make any difference, this is 2015 not 1915.
Exactly, so Starbuck could have still been male, there were other things that made it better all round and the sex of the character made no difference in the grand scheme of things.
Soldato
M isn't the same person. It's a codename for their job title and he or she can be replaced at any time by a person of any colour or sex like any other boss. The same goes for Q.
Moneypenny is or was just the secretary and was mainly there for banter/eye candy until they gave her something to do and fleshed her out a bit.
Bond being blonde actually did cause a bit of a fuss when Craig was first announced. Most people got over it as it isn't really a fundamental change to the character, despite it not totally matching up to his description.
All the rest is pretty much semantics.
Do I think Idris could play a brilliant Bond type of character? Without doubt.
Do I think making Bond black would be true to the character? No.
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Caporegime
I was not being serious
.I just found it funny that Clov!s makes those two statements 'I do not care about colour, but James Bond should not be played by a black person.'
Anyway.
Actors. They act. Ibris is a good actor
he could quite easily play James Bond. Acting yo.
Caporegime
I was not being serious
I just found it funny that Clov!s makes those two statements 'I do not care about colour, but James Bond should not be played by a black person.'
Anyway.
Actors. They act. Ibris is a good actor
What i said isn't racist. If i was racist i would have said 'No black person should appear on TV in films or shows'.
But my opinion (focus on the word MY) is that i don't think he would fit the role.
I'm not saying he isn't good enough (he's one of my favorite actors tbh) i just don't think he can pull off the 007 charm.
Caporegime
Haha, if you say so.
Ibris is a good actor. Actors pretend to be people, if an actor has to pretend to be a charmer, then he will try his best.
Anyone saying that they think he 'cannot pull off the charm' or anything to that effect is making a very silly statement, you would need to see the actor in the role (audition, rehearsals) to assess how well they can perform the role.
'Heath Ledge cannot be the joker'.
Ibris is a good actor. Actors pretend to be people, if an actor has to pretend to be a charmer, then he will try his best.
Anyone saying that they think he 'cannot pull off the charm' or anything to that effect is making a very silly statement, you would need to see the actor in the role (audition, rehearsals) to assess how well they can perform the role.
'Heath Ledge cannot be the joker'.
Soldato
Petey has hit the nail on the head there.
Soldato
I agree Petey, nice one.
Changing hair colour is hardly a biggie, changing skin colour of the MAIN CHARACTER surely is.
Lol at those even slightly hinting at racism from those who suggest Bond should NOT be anything other than white.
Elba is a cracking actor, but i really like Daniel Craig. And as others have said i'm not convinced that Elba could portray the suave and charm that Bond has. He always seems to play rough and edgy characters.
What if Elba was 5ft3in? Would he still be in with a shout? I doubt it.
Changing hair colour is hardly a biggie, changing skin colour of the MAIN CHARACTER surely is.
Lol at those even slightly hinting at racism from those who suggest Bond should NOT be anything other than white.
Elba is a cracking actor, but i really like Daniel Craig. And as others have said i'm not convinced that Elba could portray the suave and charm that Bond has. He always seems to play rough and edgy characters.
What if Elba was 5ft3in? Would he still be in with a shout? I doubt it.
Your examples are stupid because they're both actual people.
James Bond is a fictional character
Soldato
What if Batman was black?
Its not a racist thing imho, its just that back story and everything else for a character is prewritten to be of a colour, we might not be racist now but when the books were written they were done in a way, and a time that was more so and certain races just didnt play certain characters.
If Bond was entirely new and made up now then theres no reason he couldnt be black.
It is what it is..
Its not a racist thing imho, its just that back story and everything else for a character is prewritten to be of a colour, we might not be racist now but when the books were written they were done in a way, and a time that was more so and certain races just didnt play certain characters.
If Bond was entirely new and made up now then theres no reason he couldnt be black.
It is what it is..
Blackman Begins?
I have no issue with this at all, what I can't understand however is why Comics/Films feel the need to change Characters from White to Black or Male to Female when they could instead create a new character/franchise and put the effort into making it great/popular in its own right.
Surely all this really shows is people are lazy and lack imagination.
Surely all this really shows is people are lazy and lack imagination.