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**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

Dicehunter said:
Anyone by chance in the know about the next driver fixing the always on G-Sync problem ?
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Latest post on the Nvidia forums has someone quoting tech support as follows:

"We did received reports of this issue and this is actually expected behavior due to recent change in the latest drivers. This was news to us as well but development confirmed this is expected behavior. In our R349 drivers including 350.12, when G-SYNC is enabled in the NV Control Panel, it is always enabled and now supersedes in-game settings. A consequence for example, is that an end-user wanting to use ULMB mode in a game, must first turn-off G-SYNC in the NV Control Panel. We are investigating alternatives for a future driver release, but for now, use the NV Control Panel to turn off G-SYNC.

Best regards,
NVIDIA Level 2 Technical Support"

This seems to contradict the earlier communications that indicated that the monitor was registering g-sync as on even though it wasn't actually except in full-screen games. I guess we'll see this sorted in the next release.

I also had a weird problem where I couldn't start Saints Row IV in full-screen mode without the title movies stuttering and then an eventual BSOD or CTD prior to or at the main menu. Works fine with previous drivers and starts up fine windowed (and I can then switch to full-screen straightaway without issues). Seems a bit odd, but definitely only happens for me with 350.12.
 
strumpusplunket said:
Latest post on the Nvidia forums has someone quoting tech support as follows:

"We did received reports of this issue and this is actually expected behavior due to recent change in the latest drivers. This was news to us as well but development confirmed this is expected behavior. In our R349 drivers including 350.12, when G-SYNC is enabled in the NV Control Panel, it is always enabled and now supersedes in-game settings. A consequence for example, is that an end-user wanting to use ULMB mode in a game, must first turn-off G-SYNC in the NV Control Panel. We are investigating alternatives for a future driver release, but for now, use the NV Control Panel to turn off G-SYNC.

Best regards,
NVIDIA Level 2 Technical Support"

This seems to contradict the earlier communications that indicated that the monitor was registering g-sync as on even though it wasn't actually except in full-screen games. I guess we'll see this sorted in the next release.

I also had a weird problem where I couldn't start Saints Row IV in full-screen mode without the title movies stuttering and then an eventual BSOD or CTD prior to or at the main menu. Works fine with previous drivers and starts up fine windowed (and I can then switch to full-screen straightaway without issues). Seems a bit odd, but definitely only happens for me with 350.12.
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Thanks for the reply.

I really can't see the benefit of having G-sync always active even when on the desktop, I mean surely this would be overworking the G-Sync module ?
 
Dicehunter said:
Thanks for the reply.

I really can't see the benefit of having G-sync always active even when on the desktop, I mean surely this would be overworking the G-Sync module ?
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Yeah, I thought the same. I've disabled mine for now in NVCP since I won't be gaming for at least a week or two anyway.

I wonder here if "this is actually expected behaviour" is really PR speak for "look, someone royally screwed up and we've only just noticed but hey it's not like it's on fire or anything, right?"
 
strumpusplunket said:
Yeah, I thought the same. I've disabled mine for now in NVCP since I won't be gaming for at least a week or two anyway.

I wonder here if "this is actually expected behaviour" is really PR speak for "look, someone royally screwed up and we've only just noticed but hey it's not like it's on fire or anything, right?"
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One of the features that I DID like before the latest driver was that G-Sync would disable when not in fullscreen games, It's a PITA to have to go into the Nvidia control panel each and every time you want to enable/disable it :mad:

Think I'll revert to 347.88 as that doesn't have this bug until they get up off their backsides and fix this.
 
Dicehunter said:
Interesting thanks, Wonder if Nvidia will actually fix the LED issue though as it was a nice indicator to see when it was in use.
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Yes, and it also means you can't switch ULMB on and off as desired as even if g-sync isn't actually on the monitor acts like it is in terms of LED, OSD and disabling ULMB.

Although, I've just thought... given String's useful pointer to the option to disable g-sync in application-specific settings, I guess you could switch g-sync off in NVCP (and thus have the LED off and enable ULMB) but set it to use g-sync in those applications where you want it running.

Will have to try that when I've got a bit more time. Not the neatest solution, but better than what I've got currently.
 
Right don't know how true this is> Guru3D Improve GeForce GTX series performance with a handy tweak>In fact that feature NVIDIA Streaming apparently eats up 3 to 5% of your framerate when activated.

Guru3D News:Improve GeForce GTX series performance with a handy tweak Read On-

Okay, if you are like myself and you don't even install GeForce Experience then you can skip this all-together. However if you do have GeForce Experience installed with the NVIDIA Streaming enabled and if you
are not using that feature, you might want to disable it.

First credit where credit is due, TPU picked up on this story who spotted this tweak at Reddit. On Reddit a user called PC Master Race noticed he could tweak performance by disabling the 'NVIDIA Streaming' Windows
service. In fact that feature apparently eats up 3 to 5% of your framerate when activated. Here's the kicker, if GeForce Experience is installed, it will automatically enable itself.

Look up "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in Windows Services (type "services.msc" in Run), and disable it by setting "start-up type" to "Disabled," in properties.
Restart your PC.

Keep in mind that the NVIDIA Streamer Service is required for ShadowPlay, so if you use it, you'll need to leave it active. If you don't ... you could also remove GeForce Experience altogether of course. We are also
interested in hearing experiences from the Guru3D crowd to see if this actually works or not for you.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/improve-geforce-gtx-series-performance-with-a-handy-tweak.html
 
Good info Oldphart and I did this earlier but not tried any games yet. I am itching to play some Trine 3 in 3D and I need drivers for that.
 
Although that is a nice find it's also a little redundant isn't it as it disables the ability to use Shadowplay and that's the only good feature of GFE IMO.
 
Entirely coincidentally I disabled this service recently. It's known to cause problems with Razer software and caused "overclock style" freezes and lock ups on my system. I first picked up on this when I got my shield and tried to stream games to it, got it sorted but did a full reinstall when I got my Titan X and it reactived. So, anyone getting freezing in games check this first before backing down the overclocks. Hope this helps.
 
Thanks for the info , i never use shadow play ,not even once but i do have to have GFE as i have a sli setup and it dose update profiles i believe , but i will defo be disabling the streamer service form now on .
 
Dicehunter said:
Although that is a nice find it's also a little redundant isn't it as it disables the ability to use Shadowplay and that's the only good feature of GFE IMO.
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Very valid point. I use SP all the time, so not much good for me but still saves uninstalling for benching.
 
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