**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

[Purgatory]

LOL - will do mate. So should I still be RMA'ing the card if it's idle at those temps? Just concerned that the DVR thing was crashing it and it's not actually a hardware issue? I assume an iffy PSU woudn't cause idle temps to rise? Not sure whether to send the PSU back or not or whether to RMA the card.

I would wait till you get the new PSU and remember to use two pci-e cables on the new psu to power the classified.

It could be a power issue causing the temps problem too, so wait till the new psu comes and then if you still have issues, I would do a trial run on windows 7 ( do you have windows 7 64bit version ? if not let me know and will link you to a ISO that you can use to test the system) as a test to rule out windows 10 and anything you may have added to the setup in windows.


Also I would not install nvidia experience unless you need some of its features and any programs that auto start like skype etc make them not auto start with the system.


But lets see what happens with new PSU first and try rule out some configuration issues too within windows that could be adding some use to the gpu and causing the idle temps to be high.


Today I would advise you to give the system a good clean and to get ready for the new PSU tomorrow and go from there, worse case is you RMA the card to EVGA and that is dead easy to do in under a week you will have a new one. Also how long have you had the Classified ? maybe can RMA it with the seller. Was it OCUK ? because they have no stock at the moment so only case will be EVGA.

 

[Spikey]

I would wait till you get the new PSU and remember to use two pci-e cables on the new psu to power the classified.

It could be a power issue causing the temps problem too, so wait till the new psu comes and then if you still have issues, I would do a trial run on windows 7 ( do you have windows 7 64bit version ? if not let me know and will link you to a ISO that you can use to test the system) as a test to rule out windows 10 and anything you may have added to the setup in windows.


Also I would not install nvidia experience unless you need some of its features and any programs that auto start like skype etc make them not auto start with the system.


But lets see what happens with new PSU first and try rule out some configuration issues too within windows that could be adding some use to the gpu and causing the idle temps to be high.


Today I would advise you to give the system a good clean and to get ready for the new PSU tomorrow and go from there, worse case is you RMA the card to EVGA and that is dead easy to do in under a week you will have a new one. Also how long have you had the Classified ? maybe can RMA it with the seller. Was it OCUK ? because they have no stock at the moment so only case will be EVGA.

Thanks mate I really appreciate your help. I will probably do the cleaning tomorrow once I've removed the current PSU. I actually bought it off the MM on here two weeks ago. I've registered it with EVGA and have an invoice for warranty purposes. They've said they would be more than happy to RMA if it's not a power issue. So I've set the ball rolling with that so if it is the PSU I can cancel the RMA with them.

PS - Yep I have a copy of Win 7 64-Bit as well. Just prefer the layout of Windows 10 so I would ideally want to stick with that in the long run.

 

[Spikey]

So i see your case comes with a front intake and a rear exhaust. Do you have any fans mounted to the side door?

Edit: as above i would add in some extra fans probably a side and a top.

From reading a bit you can potentially add in 5 extra fans with 2 on the side, 2 on top and an extra at the front. If you do so make sure to get some quiet ones as it could sound pretty loud with all of them fans.

Thanks pal. I did have a 980 a few months back with no issues like I'm having now as well as a 970 so I'm leaning towards the card or PSU atm.

 

[Purgatory]

Thanks mate I really appreciate your help. I will probably do the cleaning tomorrow once I've removed the current PSU. I actually bought it off the MM on here two weeks ago. I've registered it with EVGA and have an invoice for warranty purposes. They've said they would be more than happy to RMA if it's not a power issue. So I've set the ball rolling with that so if it is the PSU I can cancel the RMA with them.

Okay that sounds good and a good plan as it came from the MM and you never know the previous owner may have had issues with it and tried to pass it on.


I wonder if the previous owner had the cooler removed and repasted the GPU and not done a very good job and may explain the idle temps.


My pleasure mate, shout again if you have a problem I will keep an eye on this thread and get back to you.

 

[Spikey]

Okay that sounds good and a good plan as it came from the MM and you never know the previous owner may have had issues with it and tried to pass it on.


I wonder if the previous owner had the cooler removed and repasted the GPU and not done a very good job and may explain the idle temps.


My pleasure mate, shout again if you have a problem I will keep an eye on this thread and get back to you.

Thanks mate. I'm thinking it might be worth doing the RMA to rule anything sinister out. The guy who sold me it said it hasn't been overclocked either.

 

[Purgatory]

Thanks mate. I'm thinking it might be worth doing the RMA to rule anything sinister out. The guy who sold me it said it hasn't been overclocked either.

Yup but could be nothing wrong with the card too but I do worry when people state they never overclocked on such a forum when they sell their items (I don't OC GPU, but CPU only when using FSX, then back to stock. no need for the OC then),will know tomorrow with new PSU and maybe a trial run with windows 7.


Also what ASIC is the card and what VRAM does it have Samsung or hynix ?


Gpuz will tell you on the main area, ASIC you have to right click the top left corner of gpuz and say read asic quality.

 

[Spikey]

Yup but could be nothing wrong with the card too but I do worry when people state they never overclocked on such a forum when they sell their items (I don't OC GPU, but CPU only when using FSX, then back to stock. no need for the OC then),will know tomorrow with new PSU and maybe a trial run with windows 7.


Also what ASIC is the card and what VRAM does it have Samsung or hynix ?


Gpuz will tell you on the main area, ASIC you have to right click the top left corner of gpuz and say read asic quality.

Hynix Ram and ASIC is 65% - whatever they mean? lol

 

[Purgatory]

Means it's worth RMAing if it doesn't work tomorrow and worth the postage, but who knows what you will get back too, so it's a risk, you may get a good ASIC or worse, but 65 is on the worse scale for classifieds and I think probably the reason the person sold it, but worth taking if it still isn't being nice. (But wouldn't worry too much about ASIC too but nice to have a 70%+)


Mines got samsung ram and 73.6% ASIC

I would want 70% + ASIC on a Classified.


What is ASIC Quality and how does it affect overclocking?

 

[Spikey]

Means it's worth RMAing if it doesn't work tomorrow and worth the postage, but who knows what you will get back too, so it's a risk, you may get a good ASIC or worse, but 65 is on the worse scale for classifieds and I think probably the reason the person sold it, but worth taking if it still isn't being nice. (But wouldn't worry too much about ASIC too but nice to have a 70%+)


Mines got samsung ram and 73.6% ASIC

I would want 70% + ASIC on a Classified.


What is ASIC Quality and how does it affect overclocking?

I will probably end up RMA'ing it for the temps alone if the PSU doesn't reduce it. If the ASIC only relates to overlocking thats fine as it's not something I plan to do.

 

[hyperseven]

**please ignore

 

[Spikey]

EVGA replied and said they would be happy to RMA it for a replacement so I'm going to do that just to make sure the card is in the clear. Had no further driver not responding messages since I turned off the Xbox DVR though so that's obviously been causing some of the issues.

 

[Spikey]

Been running some further tests re temps and having tried various games under load it goes to 76-80c. Is that safe or not? In two minds whether to RMA for the temps alone..

 

[Dicehunter]

Been running some further tests re temps and having tried various games under load it goes to 76-80c. Is that safe or not? In two minds whether to RMA for the temps alone..

If you have it on an auto fan curve then yes but you might as well run a 1:1 fan curve ratio as the fans on the Classified are quiet anyway.

 

[Aretak]

Those temperatures are certainly safe (reference cards target a few degrees higher), and seem to be about in line with reviews. KitGuru got 77 degrees under load and Overclockers.com recorded 78.

I'm surprised that the cooler on such a high end card isn't more impressive though tbh. My Palit 980 Ti never got above the low 70s even overclocked to nearly 1500MHz, and that's a much less expensive model than the Classified. That was in a fairly low airflow case with undervolted fans too, plus it was the quietest card I've ever owned to boot.

 

[Geeman1979]

Been running some further tests re temps and having tried various games under load it goes to 76-80c. Is that safe or not? In two minds whether to RMA for the temps alone..

The temps are fine, what were you expecting? If you want more control over them setup a custom fan profile as already suggested.

 

[Spikey]

Thanks guys just installing my G2 PSU now. I won't RMA the card if the temps seem okay I was more concerned with the idle temp but if it's fine I won't bother wasting my time with the RMA

 

[Spikey]

Managed to improve my cable management and gave the case and fans a bit of a clean, temps tend to load around 74-75 now and generally sits around 55 idle with my CPU @ 4.4. Pretty pleased with it now.

 

[Purgatory]

Managed to improve my cable management and gave the case and fans a bit of a clean, temps tend to load around 74-75 now and generally sits around 55 idle with my CPU @ 4.4. Pretty pleased with it now.

Nice job on the cable tidying, only problem I see with you card is the high idle temps still, it should be idling in a 21c room temp room around 35c, if room temp is lower below 35c. I have the same card as you and it does not get any higher than 38c when the central heating is on and the room temperature is high.


I would ask the person you purchased the card from if they have removed the cooler at some point and added new paste, they may have done a bad job of it. (may need to renew paste and installing right again).


Are you also 100% sure there is nothing on your system using the graphics card when in idle (as you noticed Xbox DVR was causing your browser to crash the nvidia drivers), like the nvidia experience rubbish that captures video etc. Have you tried without the Nvidia experience too ? Also any other software that auto starts that could be using the graphics card. Also check for a virus too, maybe you have the bitcoin virus that will use your graphics card too and make it idle higher temps.


What would be nice is if you can restart the system kill any tasks not related to the OS or drivers in task manager and run gpuz and let it idle for 10 mins and take a screen shot of the sensor page and the graphics card page so can see what it is set at at stock and what VBIOS it is on, you may need to update the VBIOS or the person before you has installed some other VBIOS.


Also on the card have you checked that the card is set to Normal not OC, there is a switch on the card near the power cables make sure it is set to Normal and do this while the system is off. Then if it was on OC check the temps again for idle.


Also can you supply system temperature, cpu , motherboard etc. Screenshots please mate so we can resolve this issue for you. Because it is not normal for a Classified to idle at over 40c doing nothing even in a really small case with bad airflow. (your case is great, but I would add a side fan and more intake fans to create a positive pressure and that will reduce dust build up too). Even when you had the case open yesterday your temps were still high, so it proved it was not the case doing it.


Also do these tests above set at 60hz refresh rate, 120hz and 144hz. Because it could be a refresh rate bug you have. Set the refresh rate in the nvidia control panel where you set your resolution. Also check them in windows , by right clicking the desktop and selecting screen resolution and selecting advanced settings and click the monitor tab to check what the refresh rate is set at, 60hz may show 59hz, 120hz may show 119hz, and 144hz may show 143hz there so don't worry.

Dice also owns a Classified, can he also check his idle temps on the stock air cooler.


Mine is sat at 30c in a cold room right now at idle with Skype and browsers open on the stock cooler for the classified. you want it to be 35c to no higher than 39c in a warm room.

 

[Spikey]

Nice job on the cable tidying, only problem I see with you card is the high idle temps still, it should be idling in a 21c room temp room around 35c, if room temp is lower below 35c. I have the same card as you and it does not get any higher than 38c when the central heating is on and the room temperature is high.


I would ask the person you purchased the card from if they have removed the cooler at some point and added new paste, they may have done a bad job of it. (may need to renew paste and installing right again).


Are you also 100% sure there is nothing on your system using the graphics card when in idle (as you noticed Xbox DVR was causing your browser to crash the nvidia drivers), like the nvidia experience rubbish that captures video etc. Have you tried without the Nvidia experience too ? Also any other software that auto starts that could be using the graphics card. Also check for a virus too, maybe you have the bitcoin virus that will use your graphics card too and make it idle higher temps.


What would be nice is if you can restart the system kill any tasks not related to the OS or drivers in task manager and run gpuz and let it idle for 10 mins and take a screen shot of the sensor page and the graphics card page so can see what it is set at at stock and what VBIOS it is on, you may need to update the VBIOS or the person before you has installed some other VBIOS.


Also on the card have you checked that the card is set to Normal not OC, there is a switch on the card near the power cables make sure it is set to Normal and do this while the system is off. Then if it was on OC check the temps again for idle.


Also can you supply system temperature, cpu , motherboard etc. Screenshots please mate so we can resolve this issue for you. Because it is not normal for a Classified to idle at over 40c doing nothing even in a really small case with bad airflow. (your case is great, but I would add a side fan and more intake fans to create a positive pressure and that will reduce dust build up too). Even when you had the case open yesterday your temps were still high, so it proved it was not the case doing it.


Also do these tests above set at 60hz refresh rate, 120hz and 144hz. Because it could be a refresh rate bug you have. Set the refresh rate in the nvidia control panel where you set your resolution. Also check them in windows , by right clicking the desktop and selecting screen resolution and selecting advanced settings and click the monitor tab to check what the refresh rate is set at, 60hz may show 59hz, 120hz may show 119hz, and 144hz may show 143hz there so don't worry.

Dice also owns a Classified, can he also check his idle temps on the stock air cooler.


Mine is sat at 30c in a cold room right now at idle with Skype and browsers open on the stock cooler for the classified. you want it to be 35c to no higher than 39c in a warm room.

Thanks mate. I will check that switch on the card and see what it's set to, any idea what position it needs to be in? I don't recall seeing anywhere that explains it in the manual. I have tried various refresh rates that don't seem to make any difference. I think its highly unlikely I've got a virus as I've literally done a fresh Windows install the other day. I might just end up RMA'ing the card as planned with the higher idle temps. What's strange is the load temps seem bang on what other sites state for this card? It's just the idle temp that seems off. I will try and do another fresh install and see what it shows. Only things I have running are Logitech game software for my mouse and G920 wheel and GeForce experience that I can think of.

 

[Purgatory]

Thanks mate. I will check that switch on the card and see what it's set to, any idea what position it needs to be in? I don't recall seeing anywhere that explains it in the manual. I have tried various refresh rates that don't seem to make any difference. I think its highly unlikely I've got a virus as I've literally done a fresh Windows install the other day. I might just end up RMA'ing the card as planned with the higher idle temps. What's strange is the load temps seem bang on what other sites state for this card? It's just the idle temp that seems off. I will try and do another fresh install and see what it shows. Only things I have running are Logitech game software for my mouse and G920 wheel and GeForce experience that I can think of.

The switch needs to be set as in this picture towards Normal. LN2 is the OC mode, which it should not be set to unless you are using LN2 or water cooling.