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**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

Swinbag said:
I've been getting more & more tempted to go back to W7 recently, feel like such an old tart whinging about it but I genuinely despise W10 - the CU was just the icing on the cake for me really.
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New update due 17th.

Unfortunately for a gaming pc there isn't much alternative.

You can use Win 7 but only untill Dx12 really takes off.
 
Swinbag said:
I've been getting more & more tempted to go back to W7 recently, feel like such an old tart whinging about it but I genuinely despise W10 - the CU was just the icing on the cake for me really.
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I’ve read the competitive gamers are on Windows 7...

I dual boot however and keep my games on Windows 7 while jumping into Windows 10 here and there for Assetto Corsa.
 
Anyone else having the Shadowplay FPS counter showing up in various apps as well as games? I've had it in Spotify amongst others.

Edit, looks like there is a few having the same issues posting on the GFE forums.
 
Just installed the new drivers. If anyone has multi monitor and is experiencing Middle-Earth Shadow of war launching continuously on their second monitor despite every setting you change and it being your secondary monitor in nvidia control panel then i figured a way to temporarily fix the issue.

Just set the game to window mode once at game menu. It will then flash and the game will jump back to your primary screen, then just set back to full screen. However on restart of the game it will keep reverting to your second screen. Not sure if this is the new driver or the game causing the issue. Previous driver did not do this for me. But thought i would share how i resolved the issue.
 
opethdisciple said:
New update due 17th.

Unfortunately for a gaming pc there isn't much alternative.

You can use Win 7 but only untill Dx12 really takes off.
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Don't say that, it's probably true but don't say it. I will never leave Windows 7 in favour of 8 or 10 Neveeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!:cool:
And playing Windows Solitaire with 'display animations' disabled with my Nvidia GT 730 is lightening fast.
 
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Stretlow said:
Can someone explain what the beef is with windows 10? I've used it since launch and don't get any issues whatsoever with it. I really like it
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I don't dislike it exactly, the interface is fine but how it handles updates is shocking, love forza horizon 3 but again how store is handled is cack. Privacy or lack there off unless you know what your doing is more than intrusive.

Drivers how it overrides others at times mainly in gpu cases
 
Never had the issue where Win10 takes driver installs (know about it though) but I cannot install this new driver and had to use the Sep build, tried all sorts inc DDU but many on G-Force forums have same issue.

Just as well as some claim it makes BF1 stutter and I just started that game.
 
The whole driver thing is annoying about Windows 10. I always disconnect my ethernet cable before doing any driver updates.

But I do get why they've done it. Same with forced windows updates. Windows of old was notorious for being insecure.

So following Apples approach of setting a baseline level with Windows 10 it's almost impossible for the OS not to be up-to-date at some point. And I guess with drivers too if they can handle that for your average Joe automatically then it raises the bar a lot over previous versions.

But for power users and people that want more control there should be a on off toggle in the settings menu to turn this off.

At least full control over the drivers.
 
opethdisciple said:
The whole driver thing is annoying about Windows 10. I always disconnect my ethernet cable before doing any driver updates.

But I do get why they've done it. Same with forced windows updates. Windows of old was notorious for being insecure.

So following Apples approach of setting a baseline level with Windows 10 it's almost impossible for the OS not to be up-to-date at some point. And I guess with drivers too if they can handle that for your average Joe automatically then it raises the bar a lot over previous versions.

But for power users and people that want more control there should be a on off toggle in the settings menu to turn this off.

At least full control over the drivers.
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You can run a fix that disables driver updates, worked for me since going w10 near launch. Everything else is updated as normal, security updates etc.
 
opethdisciple said:
But I do get why they've done it. Same with forced windows updates. Windows of old was notorious for being insecure.
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That isn't a good argument for over-riding user behaviour and/or taking control away from users however. I can kind of see an argument for doing it maybe with the home edition but at least make it possible to take control with the professional edition or what is even the point of the pro edition :s

opethdisciple said:
So following Apples approach of setting a baseline level with Windows 10 it's almost impossible for the OS not to be up-to-date at some point. And I guess with drivers too if they can handle that for your average Joe automatically then it raises the bar a lot over previous versions.
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They completely undermined any position on that when they started obsoleting (which to a point you can't really escape and keep developing an OS forward) certain hardware so you can't get updates past a certain point if you have that hardware (i.e. older Atom CPUs).

Drollic said:
You can run a fix that disables driver updates, worked for me since going w10 near launch. Everything else is updated as normal, security updates etc.
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Problem is it isn't reliable - works sometimes - other times you'll find Windows 10 constantly replaces a driver whatever you do short of doing nasty things to the OS with 3rd party tools.
 
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TBH, Win 10 Pro keys are very cheap and stops all this driver shenanigans. I paid £5.50 for mine off the rain forest. I still run 382.22 as I am done updating for my 980ti given Nvidia's driver shenanigans

Anyway, just a suggestion.
 
It's not just Microsoft tho that took this approach. I know it's just a browser and Windows is a full OS, but Chrome does the same thing. It auto updates. This means that security is now up to Google. We never get in to a scenario where the end user for what ever reason ISNT running the latest version of the software as the browser will auto update it's self when connected to the internet.

Does Firefox do the same? I know they have that Firefox service which installs it's self separate to the browser which I think is to achieve the same thing.
 
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opethdisciple said:
It's just Microsoft tho that took this approach. I know it's just a browser and Windows is a full OS, but Chrome does the same thing. It auto updates. This means that security is now up to Google. We never get in to a scenario where the end user for what ever reason ISNT running the latest version of the software as the browser will auto update it's self when connected to the internet.

Does Firefox do the same? I know they have that Firefox service which installs it's self separate to the browser which I think is to achieve the same thing.
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Who is controlling who? :p
 
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