The OcUK Powerlifting Totals

Right let me make this crystal clear.

60kg man lifting 300kg will have a lower wilks score than a 120kg lifting 600kg.

However, in general, the relationship isn't linear like that - I accept that, and that's just fact.

I don't even know why I'm justifying myself - I have no need to but anyway:

1) A hulking monster (like me for example) shifting 600kg is pretty cool - but if someone lighter than me - IRRESPECTIVE of if they are fatter or not, can lift the same weight, it is more impressive, and furthermore their WILKS score will be higher, which is absolutely correct.

2) a petite, gorgeous, tight bottomed girl lifts 3x her bodyweight (for example) to me is absolutely awe inspiring, as the thought of me lifting 3x my bodyweight in one exercise is beyond fathomable. Sure, her wilks score for her total lifts may be lower than mine, but in 1 lift she is still lifting 3x her bodyweight.

3) if you are not impressed with someone lifting 3x their bodyweight, you do not belong in this thread.

4) Bodyfat has nothing to do with wilks score or powerlifting - bodyweight on the other hand is relevant.

5) Andy Bolton is a world record deadlifter sure it's "only" 2.8x his bodyweight, however the weight shifted is awesome and no less amazing. HOWEVER, to ME, MY OPINION, IRRESPECTIVE OF WILKS SCORE, my PERSONAL take on this, what I find more impressive is that 3x BW example.


WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!!!

Bloody kids.
 
Djdom56 said:
That's my goal for the comp in Feb :D.

I doubt I'll get it but oh well, I've always liked over-ambitious goals :p.
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Pffft. You think that is ambitious? That's barely anywhere near my downright silly goals of being a competitive weightlifter (not powerlifter) in the 94kg category! :D
 
Hmmm, interesting posts Spoffle...

I can't help but raise an eyebrow when someone's belief appears to exist to support their own agenda.

What are your lifts and how much do you weigh?

Have you wondered why you don't see many lean-ish 120+kg guys? It's because it isn't going to happen without steroids (perhaps more accurately: without aggressive steroid use right up to competition). If an olympic level athlete could cut down to the weight class below without sacrificing their performance, do you not think they would?

I actually don't really care either way about power to weight ratios, I think it's pretty obvious where it is and isn't relevant. WILKS does a pretty good job of levelling the playing field anyway. You'll find no contempt between strength sport competitors of different weight classes, they're generally only competing against they're own weight class (apart from in powerlifting, where there is generally a "best overall lifter" based on WILKS).

This comment is particularly special:
spoffle said:
Those type of people do that not because of their physical size, but because of the stupid way they bench press. They bring the bar down low, to like middle of their torso, and they lie on the bench with their back really arched.

It's reasons like that (as well as parallel squats) that made my lose respect for "official" power lifting federations, it's like a parody of itself.
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How wonderful it must be to convince yourself that the people who are the best at doing something, to the extent that they compete with people from around the world, are in fact actually "doing it the easy way".

This comes up so much that it's boring.

Oh, your friend's dad's cousins dog benches xxxkg, squats xxxkg, and deadlifts xxxkg? Not to IPF rules he doesn't. "You're only doing one rep, that's easy". "You squat to parallel? lolzors, I go ATG".

Maybe you don't know what the IPF rules are, in which case your ignorance is your own responsibility, especially if you're going to make sweeping statements.

Powerlifters, quite unsurprisingly, are generally the best at powerlifting. If there is anyone who thinks that they're stronger, they'll be very welcome at their nearest meet where they can show everyone how it's done. But then they've just become a powerlifter, so...
 
And tbh, I see no reason for you not to lift 270, should you ever turn back to heavy stuff :)
 
Freefaller said:
5) Andy Bolton is a world record deadlifter sure it's "only" 2.8x his bodyweight, however the weight shifted is awesome and no less amazing. HOWEVER, to ME, MY OPINION, IRRESPECTIVE OF WILKS SCORE, my PERSONAL take on this, what I find more impressive is that 3x BW example.
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Fair enough, As the saying goes - "We'll agree to disagree" on that one.

I only disagree because there must be quite a few light lifters out there who can shift 3 times their body-weight with not that much training experience (as in 1-2 years of lifting), whereas such feat at the heavyweight end of the scale is simply impossible even for uber champions like Bolton etc.

The way I see it - the more common something is, the less "impressive" I find it but that doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion.:)


Got your email, I will update wilks tonight as well.
 
I had no issue with your opinion - it was the other people sticking their noses in and talking ******** that I did take exception to. :)

I hear what you're saying re: "common" - but I don't think it's THAT common, and it just shows some good training and natural ability. I've lost weight, muscle mass and some strength as a result.

My power:weight hasn't been affected that much though - does that mean I'm stronger or weaker in your opinion? To me, whilst the total amount lifted is less, I'd concede that I am maybe less strong. However, I am just as powerful, if not more so than I was before. Power and strength are not the same thing in my opinion. :)
 
I just deadlifted 260kg, benched 190kg and squatted 230kg

Cba posting videos, I'll just post my numbers instead, far more believable
 
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