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Poll: *** The official 2020 MacBook Air/13" MacBook Pro thread (it has the M1 chip and everything!) ***

Discussion in 'Apple Hardware' started by Feek, 10 Nov 2020.

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What 2020 Apple Silicon notebook have you ordered?

  1. MacBook Air

    60 vote(s)
    69.0%
  2. 13" MacBook Pro

    27 vote(s)
    31.0%
  1. Maccy

    Commissario

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    Location: Herts

    I suspect an update to the 16" in the autumn.
     
  2. Tom898

    Gangster

    Joined: 31 Oct 2013

    Posts: 137

    I've fully bought into the rumours and decided to hold off buying a new Macbook until at least the autumn passes. Rumours of the Pro possibly getting the M1X whilst the Air will get the M2 chip makes me want to hold off even longer to get the new Air.
     
  3. OspreyO

    Mobster

    Joined: 12 Dec 2006

    Posts: 3,773

    There's an M3 after that though ...
     
  4. Squink

    Soldato

    Joined: 25 Apr 2007

    Posts: 5,225

    Everything is rumour and conjecture, but if Apple are consistent, the M1X might be the M1 with extra cores (in the same way the iPad Pros get the current gen iPhone SoC with some extra cores and are named e.g. A12Z). Then, the M2 might be a yearly iteration of the M1 in the same way that iPhone SoCs are iterated every year.

    In other words, the M1X (“pro” SoC) might be faster than the M2.
     
  5. Biz.Kid09

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 14 Oct 2009

    Posts: 9,331

    Location: UK

    The M1X or whatever it is in the Pro will be more powerful than the chip in the next air iteration (Surely!?!)
    I too am waiting to see what happens in the next few months.
     
  6. muttclugg

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 10 Dec 2007

    Posts: 1,855

    Location: SE

    Im up to 22 charge cycles on my MBA and the battery health has dropped to 98%. I use it on battery all the time, rarely charge fully to 100% (normally I just let it go to 80% and then when it automatically pauses, I use it from there rather than getting it to 100) and I normally charge when it gets to c.20%. How does this compare with what you guys/gals are seeing?
     
  7. ChrisD.

    Caporegime

    Joined: 20 Sep 2006

    Posts: 26,682

    I don't even think about how I use it, I plug it in now and then to backup or when I'm at my desk, then use it around the house for what feels like a week before needing to plug it in. I'm currently at 28% and it's showing over 4 hours remaining.
     
  8. Throrik

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 15 Sep 2009

    Posts: 1,975

    Location: Manchester

    Same as Chris really - if I'm at my desk it's plugged in as I have a USB-C Monitor so that provides connectivity as well as power.

    Otherwise it's generally being used on the balcony, on the sofa or out and about on battery.
     
  9. muttclugg

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 10 Dec 2007

    Posts: 1,855

    Location: SE

    Thanks for the replies so far.

    I've been the same - using it as I go and not worrying about it. I use it nearly exclusively on the battery and I just wondered if that it likely to take more of a toll on the battery and lessen it's life span than if I was to spend some time using it whilst plugged in.

    I've only had it since the end of March so to drop 2% in nearly 4 months seems like quite a bit. Apple say that if the batteries max capacity drops to 80%, that's when the battery needs replacing and it'll start to affect how you can use the computer. At this rate, I'll be at 80% max capacity in under 4 years and at less than 300 charge cycles. Seems quick to me!
     
  10. Feek

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    Location: In the radio shack

    My MB dropped to 91% relatively quickly and sat there on 91% for the best part of two years. I didn't notice any difference in performance from when it was brand new until the day I sold it.
     
  11. muttclugg

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 10 Dec 2007

    Posts: 1,855

    Location: SE

    Thanks Feek, that’s reassuring. It won’t affect the way I use it, I was just keen to see if anyone else had seen similar patterns.
     
  12. MOOGLEYS

    Capodecina

    Joined: 24 Dec 2004

    Posts: 18,043

    Location: Telford

    Mine is on 24 cycles and battery shows 100% I plug it in at night and use it on battery when needed.
     
  13. bagleyboy

    Gangster

    Joined: 18 Oct 2009

    Posts: 101

    Waiting for the obvious refresh incoming soon, the M1 has impressed me, but I try not to adopt new tech right away.
     
  14. Feek

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    I don't use my M1 MBA on the battery very often and I noticed yesterday that it wasn't charging above 85% (according to Coconut battery). This morning I looked a bit further as I thought this might be down to the optimised charging.

    Yes.. It's exactly that.

    [​IMG]

    I like the fact that it says 'Rarely used on battery'. It's not wrong!

    I'm going to give it a few full discharge/charge cycles, just for the hell of it.
     
  15. muttclugg

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 10 Dec 2007

    Posts: 1,855

    Location: SE

    See mine is always on battery so I assume as the battery is being used more, it’ll wear quicker than a unit that is used with a power supply. Coincidentally, my battery health has dropped to 97% now after 24 charge cycles. I’m going to keep an eye on it and see what happens but I’ll admit I’m a bit worried that it’s dropping at this rate.
     
  16. GMac11

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 3 Dec 2012

    Posts: 2,184

    Location: Northern Ireland

    I have been using my MBP16 plugged in for the majority of time. So much so that I have owned it for 15 months and only used 30 something cycles (don’t have it handy to check exact number). Overall battery health still 100 for me.
     
  17. ChrisD.

    Caporegime

    Joined: 20 Sep 2006

    Posts: 26,682

    My two year old 2018 Pro 15" is plugged in most of the time and it's showing 86% health and 81 cycles.
     
  18. Feek

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    I can only refer you to the reply I gave some days ago... I think you'll be fine but of course, keep a watch on it.

     
  19. b0rn2sk8

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 9 Mar 2003

    Posts: 8,600

    Battery degradation isn’t linear and batteries are not all created equally. It’s a chemical reaction that can be impacted by a huge range of factors.

    I wouldn’t worry about it and even if you did, Apple isn’t going to do anything about it.
     
  20. Feek

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    If it goes outside the specifications they quote (cycles and percentage), they will replace it.