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Tim said:lol just got to page 12 and noticed you post there, you heard anything about the possible bios mods? I won't be soldering anything.


The RAM is very different too though. 1.1ns vs 1.4ns.Tim said:So basically:
NV decide to make 7900GT's and GTX's both have 24 pipelines, unlike the 7800's (20 vs 24 pipes)
the downside of this is they don't want anyone to have GTX performance from a GT, so they starve the GT of GPU voltage, all we need is a voltage regulator override and we should get some impressive overclocks, 650MHz+
Fingers crossed that Nibitor come up with the goods![]()
Well because it makes a big impact. There isn't one from 1.2ns to 1.1ns but there is quite a large difference from 1.1 to 1.4. Stating also that a 1.4ns GT @ 1800mhz memory clock is anywhere near a 7900GTX is wrong. One need only adjust memory timings and run a 3Dmark to see the difference. Sometimes is can be as much as 500 '05 points. That is a hefty difference. And I haven't seen any GT's yet hit 650mhz on normal cooling. 610 or so I think is the highest I've seen, though I'm not discounting the fact that there will be some that do more, but these are probably rare. And this is just comparing one card to itself with different timings/frequency. The core was the same speed in both. The RAM chips on the 7900GT are rated to 700mhz - anything above that is achieved with VERY relaxed timings - I highly doubt manufacturers check the millions on IC's before putting them on the cards to speed bin them.easyrider said:Even so with 650 mhz core and 1800 mhz memory who cards about the different memory timings.
I doubt there would be that much in it.
Fingers crossed they get that bios sorted.
smids said:Well because it makes a big impact. There isn't one from 1.2ns to 1.1ns but there is quite a large difference from 1.1 to 1.4. Stating also that a 1.4ns GT @ 1800mhz memory clock is anywhere near a 7900GTX is wrong. One need only adjust memory timings and run a 3Dmark to see the difference. Sometimes is can be as much as 500 '05 points. That is a hefty difference. And I haven't seen any GT's yet hit 650mhz on normal cooling. 610 or so I think is the highest I've seen, though I'm not discounting the fact that there will be some that do more, but these are probably rare. And this is just comparing one card to itself with different timings/frequency. The core was the same speed in both. The RAM chips on the 7900GT are rated to 700mhz - anything above that is achieved with VERY relaxed timings - I highly doubt manufacturers check the millions on IC's before putting them on the cards to speed bin them.


Tim said:all we need is a voltage regulator override and we should get some impressive overclocks, 650MHz+
Yes, it is a quick card but not this ooo, GTX performance for GT prices. Not anywhere near in all honesty. And it won't and isn't a few points between this and the GTX as the result I stated was one card compared against itself. Imagine thus difference on a different scale whereby the 1.1ns stuff is rated at 1800mhz default. Tighten that up and whoa, it will stomp all over the GT. It won't be a few points, it will be one heck of a lot.easyrider said:I don't think anyone has stated that a 1.4ns GT @ 1800mhz memory clock is anywhere near a 7900GTX .
The fact is at 600/1800 its a quick card for 199 quid.Just about to order me another.
If there is only few hundred points in it over the 7900 GTX then I can live with that.![]()
smids said:Yes, it is a quick card but not this ooo, GTX performance for GT prices. Not anywhere near in all honesty. And it won't and isn't a few points between this and the GTX as the result I stated was one card compared against itself. Imagine thus difference on a different scale whereby the 1.1ns stuff is rated at 1800mhz default. Tighten that up and whoa, it will stomp all over the GT. It won't be a few points, it will be one heck of a lot.
I don't doubt the value of the GT but it must be kept in perspective.
Tim said:Ns is only the speed rating though isn't it, wouldn't 1.1Ns memory clocked at 1800MHz perform the same as 1.4Ns memory clocked at 1800MHz?
Aren't the timings different due to speed binning? 1.1ns with do tight timings at 1800mhz whilst running 1400mhz rated higher will require looser timings.Bundles said:Yup.
Ns is just the chips rated speed. two chips with different ns ratings but running the same clock speeds will give the same bandwidth/speed.
Johanson said:so you decided to get one gtx instead of sli gt?? Or are you going to sli that gtx now?
easyrider said:Yeah in the end I decided to get one 7900 GTX.I originally bought the 7900 GT EE.And although I got a great price and the card is fantastic the cooler was going to have to go.
After I worked out how much a zalman vf 900 was going to cost me and add this to the price i paid for the 7900 GT.It was the better option to spend that bit extra on the 7900 GTX.
I have ordered it but its not in stock but hopefully I'll get it some time this week.
Even if I had decided to get an x1900xt by the time I bought a zalman for it it would cost the same as a 7900 GTX so thats the route I took.
7900 GTX hopefully this week.

kbc said:LoL... after all that noise about a 7900GT, you've gone for a GTX. I'm sure that bit extra in cost wasn't that little.![]()
Tell us how you get on with the GTX. As I'm still looking for a graphics card to replace this Voodoo.kbc said:Yeps.... I thought we were referring to the £199 7900GT that's all.![]()
Well... your 7900GT benchmarks were impressive, but I've always had my sights on the 7900GTX.Tell us how you get on with the GTX. As I'm still looking for a graphics card to replace this Voodoo.
