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Thanks for sharing
I think fury for £50m for the this
I thought Fury won 3–4 rounds and Francis 1, then you could go either way on the other 5-6. Whatever, as a boxing match it was poor, Fury looked like he didn't care and Francis was just OK. His problem, like with MMA to a certain degree, is if he doesn't just flatline you, does he do enough of the other things that make you win on the judge's card.
Dude you clearly have little boxing knowledge and clearly no understanding of mental illness. just keep hating on Fury.
No legacy ? He's only one fight away from being the 6th ever undisputed heavy weight and the first in 22 years.
All that with bipolar and extensive mental health battles. You won't, but you should read his autobiography. See what he came back from.
Drug benders... Far from what he was dealing with.
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Isn’t it funny how he popped dirty prior to the wladamir fight and rather than be banned he blamed mental issues. If you want to believe that nonsense, have at it.
He has 6 world championship fights with a world championship record of 5 wins and a draw. You want to compare that to someone like Lenox who fought the best and ended on 20 something defences?
Or to you is a run of wilder, Whyte and Chisora the making of a legend to you?
His ramblings aren’t with the paper they are wrote on. The facts are he is a liar, a drug cheat and a padded out record. He should have a loss on there from the first McDermott fight and he is super lucky to not have the Wallin fight ended due to the cut.
He had ‘mental health issues’ cause he got caught cheating and got banned. It’s amazing the mental health ambassador is always the first to kick someone when they’re down.
Guy is a plank but some of his fans are even bigger mugs for believing what he comes out with.
Only Fury worth listening to is Peter and Tyson or John pushed him away. I’d be a bit more sympathetic to him if he wasn’t such Xenophobic and sexiest lying pos
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As I said you don't have a clue about boxing or mental health. Read the medial reports. Admitted with a heart rate of 200 due to paranoid episodes, attempted to take his life. Lost probably more than you weigh and then came back and became the champion again. All with managing bipolar. You should probably educate yourself on what that is. Trust me I have a close friend with it, and when you have a crash it's not nice.
Everyone needs a bit of luck which he's had, but he's undefeated and one fight away from undisputed.
If he had been mentally fit no reason why he would not have schooled kliatchko again.
Similar to Usyk schooled your boy AJ twice and would do each and every day
The *only* reason he got into a drug binge was because he cheated. Got banned and went off the rails with a drug binge and blew up in weight.
That is his own fault. Cry me a river someone has self destructed. Boo. Hoo.
There’s luck and being gifted a fight. He’s had both.
Should’ve done the fight he was contracted to and proved it then. I’m not in the business of giving people credit for something they haven’t done
Usyk would beat AJ 9/10 times. He’s a better fighter. I’m not really sure what that has to do with anything. AJ honoured his mandatory and took a challenge in Usyk and came up short against a generational talent. Where is the shame in that? He went 24 rounds with a fighter who is going to go down in the HoF and didn’t get dropped in the process. He was outclassed but hats going to happen. Some people just have your number and Usyk has AJs
Meanwhile Fury is running from the guy AJ was man enough to face and on top of that he just got dropped and humiliated by a boxing novice and debutant in front of the whole world. It’s going to eat the fraud up because now when he tries to act like he is some Unbeatable man all we have to do is look at when he struggled with a novice.
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not one bit of that statement is true. the cocaine was a dabble, his weight gain was beer and food, with his long period of depression and before his bipolar diagnosis. you are talking utter trash. read the medical articles, i guess you dont believe he is bipolar ? don't think mental health is a thing ?
Along with the PEDs. Which he got banned for. But rather than say he is faving a ban he played the mental
Health card for his reason for being out of the ring for so long which then lead to….
And if he didn’t have the ban, which he should’ve had prior the first Klitchsko fight, he wouldn’t have gone off the rails. Instead he would’ve continued training for the agreed rematch and either sailed off into the sunset as the champion or not.
If you want to believe that narrative that everything that happens to that clown isnt his fault then you play along with his game.
No.
That is a correct assessment. If he told me the time in a room of clocks I’d still look for my own time find a trustworthy source. He is a a proven liar time and time again.
That is incorrect. Mental health is very much a thing. But it’s also a thing which you can’t disprove or prove otherwise. So while I very much believe mental health is something we should take seriously. I do not believe a word that leaves that man’s lips.
The guy got dragged to a decision by a debutant. Funny how that the two biggest upsets in boxing have happened to someone called Tyson ( or one called Luke and masquerading as a Tyson). Though at least Mike lost to an actual boxer in Buster Douglas. What is Fury’s excuse? lol.
The best bit of all is that it’s finally shut John Fury up. A stain on boxing that pair.
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Come on man. Fury is just a complete walking contradiction and has proven it many times over. From retired, to only fighting for 250million, then saying he will only fight if it's free for everyone. Then promising to give his entire purse to charity, but when asked by Kugan if he did so, said that it's nobody's business what he does with his money. Reality is he hasn't given a dime to anyone but likes to have people believe to the contrary.
How people listen to anything this man says I will never know.
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Looks like WBC are now going to give him a top 10 ranking!!
That should mean we see more of him, which I am looking forward to
Best link I could find:
www.boxingscene.com/amp/ngannous-trainer-wbc-prez-said-hes-going-give-top-10-ranking--178858
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Possibly although looking at his track record and how he left the UFC, he kind of over values himself. Can't see him fighting just any ranked fighter for a fraction of what he got paid tonight, and potentially derailing the hype train. I think he waits it out in the hopes of another mega fight against one of the divisions cash cows.
Also claimed to give a homeless man in California the shoes off of his own feet. Like there are many 6'7" size 14 homeless men walking around...
Though, credit where credit is due. That time he won a £10K bet off of Frank Warren he did immediately donate it to a charity... Which just happened to be a chairty which Frank Warren was a patron of at the time. Coincidence? Na, surely not.
But he is a man of the people. Remember that time he said that wanted to fight AJ at Wembley for free, both entry to the stadium and free-to-air tv. Yeah, he said that on a stage during his UK tour whilst on a stage filled with his new fizzy drinks. Proper man of the people. Though it shouldn't be blamed on him that instead of fighting AJ for free for everyone in the UK to see, he ended up fighting a trilogy match with Derek Chisora and charged the UK the highest PPV price we've ever seen all for a glorified sparing match that no one asked for.
It's also great that as a world champion he holds such xenophobic views which was part of his excuse library for not wanting to face Usyk. Why should he fight a 'foreigner who doesn't speak English" because afrer all, as he says. The World champion should only come from West Europe or the USA.
What a stand up guy. I can see why people love him.
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Such a great post. Bravo.
I just get so sick of how he gets different treatment to other fighters when he gets away with the most ridiculous things, it's unbelievable. It's one thing for a fighter themselves to shout they're the best ever. They're supposed to believe in themselves but they're supposed to prove it to us as fans by demonstrating their superiority in the ring. Everything else is just noise but people seem to lap that noise up.
People are quick to give him ATG status when he's only fought 2 champions, Wladamir and Wilder. He's only had 6 championship fights, 3 of which agaisnt the same person. I'll give him all the credit in the world for that night in Dusseldorf. God awful fight but he did what no one else could do in 10 years. He deserves a lot of respect for that but for me, the respect ends there.
I've never rated Wilder and you can probably find posts in this thread before the first Wilder and Fury fight where I've explained my stance that people get caught up with his KO highlight reel and don't focus on his lack of ability. The man can't throw a damn jab ffs.
One of the biggest tricks the pair of them played is getting fans to believe they're #1 and #2 in the division and no one else can beat them. They're created this illusion and people lapped it up without questioning it. As if looking at either mans record is going to be a 'who's who' of heavyweight boxing. Between them, and just off the top of my head, I'm going to pick out their standout wins... Fury: Wladamir and if I want to be generous, Whyte. I thought Whyte was going to pose a bit of a problem but he got wiped out so it's only fair I add him to credible wins. Wilder?..... *crickets*.... Ortiz? Old man Ortiz who his best win is Bryant Jennings and Dave Allen.
Fortunately, Usyk isn't letting fury get off easily. Fury was quick to say that the fight must happen on the 23rd otherwise he'd sue Usyk. He changed his tune after that fight saying it'll now be next year but Usyk isn't budging. Either fight him on the 23rd or vacate the titles.
People are quick to give him ATG status when he's only fought 2 champions, Wladamir and Wilder. He's only had 6 championship fights, 3 of which agaisnt the same person. I'll give him all the credit in the world for that night in Dusseldorf. God awful fight but he did what no one else could do in 10 years. He deserves a lot of respect for that but for me, the respect ends there.
I've never rated Wilder and you can probably find posts in this thread before the first Wilder and Fury fight where I've explained my stance that people get caught up with his KO highlight reel and don't focus on his lack of ability. The man can't throw a damn jab ffs.
One of the biggest tricks the pair of them played is getting fans to believe they're #1 and #2 in the division and no one else can beat them. They're created this illusion and people lapped it up without questioning it. As if looking at either mans record is going to be a 'who's who' of heavyweight boxing. Between them, and just off the top of my head, I'm going to pick out their standout wins... Fury: Wladamir and if I want to be generous, Whyte. I thought Whyte was going to pose a bit of a problem but he got wiped out so it's only fair I add him to credible wins. Wilder?..... *crickets*.... Ortiz? Old man Ortiz who his best win is Bryant Jennings and Dave Allen.
Fortunately, Usyk isn't letting fury get off easily. Fury was quick to say that the fight must happen on the 23rd otherwise he'd sue Usyk. He changed his tune after that fight saying it'll now be next year but Usyk isn't budging. Either fight him on the 23rd or vacate the titles.
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A fine, I expect. Heat of the moment, and woozy. Its easy to view these things more harshly from outside, but in this circumstance, I don't think its overly terrible (but certainly wrong!).
On a different note, I was thinking back to the coverage, and I think Lewis got it dead right when he was talking post-fight and in the build up about the fighters today being too inactive. He was fighting 2-3 times a year in his prime. As we have it now, the boxing world creates this crazy hype and thus frustration when fight delays do happen, it causes these huge inactive streaks with the belts.
We need to get the fighters being active twice over a year to keep belts, as a starting point. Perhaps this will force fighters/promoters/etc to really mean it when they say they are trying to arrange a fight! The governing bodies need to take control, and define a rule-set that encourages activity.
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