The official Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP Thread
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You're quite good at this, Baddass. I tip my hat to you.
When you test 'out of the box' what are you using as the comparison profile? The one that comes on the accompanying CD/DVD? And likewise with sRGB - are you comparing the sRGB mode on the monitor to the 'standard' sRGB profile?
It's interesting to see the combination of brightness/contrast and RGB controls when you're calibrating with the LaCie suite. I know I'm being a pain and don't mean to keep going on about this, but I don't suppose you remember the settings used with the Eye-One Match software? Interested to see how the two suites compare.
I've got to get me a copy of that older LaCie software though! Looks much more controlled than the version I was using.
When you test 'out of the box' what are you using as the comparison profile? The one that comes on the accompanying CD/DVD? And likewise with sRGB - are you comparing the sRGB mode on the monitor to the 'standard' sRGB profile?
It's interesting to see the combination of brightness/contrast and RGB controls when you're calibrating with the LaCie suite. I know I'm being a pain and don't mean to keep going on about this, but I don't suppose you remember the settings used with the Eye-One Match software? Interested to see how the two suites compare.
I've got to get me a copy of that older LaCie software though! Looks much more controlled than the version I was using.
Woo awesome
*Reading* 
i have done a fair few reviews now, that was one of the most thorough though I think!
when i test out of the box, i'm not using any comparison profile really. I restore monitor to factory settings, restore my graphics card to default settings and remove the active ICC profile already in use. You can do this easily enough with the LaCie software by clicking through the first steps of the "calibration" stage quickly, then when you get past the manual change sections, pressing "start" on the long automated stage will remove any active profile in use....you may notice the screen changes appearance when you do this. I have to do this to remove whatever is currently active on my machine before analysing the new screen. I also have some software from Pantone which has an option to remove active profile, so that's handy.
So yes, anyway, im just doing a "test and report" straight out of the box and analysing the result from there. Then i just switched the monitor to sRGB mode and did the same test to see if default settings there were any better....they werent!
then i follow calibration process as normal and then do a final test and report. remember, OSD adjustments are only a small part of it though.
With the Eye one Match software i just left the OSD settings the same as they were with LaCie calibration.....again, the software removes the active profile which makes up the majority of what i had already calibrated. it then automatically creates a new profile and makes the adjustments on its own.
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Thank you Baddass
great stuffIt does and once again I thank you.
Man of Honour
Well if you're not a gamer then fast moving images in movies may also see the slight ghosting issues the screen has!
After receiving the BenQ FP241W today I am pretty sold on that though as one of the top 24" screens out there, it ticks all the right boxes as a complete multimedia monitor!
Add £50 for a SPyder2 calibration device and BAM, you're set!
After receiving the BenQ FP241W today I am pretty sold on that though as one of the top 24" screens out there, it ticks all the right boxes as a complete multimedia monitor!
Add £50 for a SPyder2 calibration device and BAM, you're set!
Soldato
Soldato
Crikey What a thread!
Never realised choosing a monitor was akin to hopping through a minefield!
Most of this thread is above my understanding but one point I picked up on is this input lag thing.
If you were playing a sniping game would I be right in thinking that a player using a CRT would have a very slight advantage against another player who was using an LCD with fairly high input lag?
Never realised choosing a monitor was akin to hopping through a minefield!
Most of this thread is above my understanding but one point I picked up on is this input lag thing.
If you were playing a sniping game would I be right in thinking that a player using a CRT would have a very slight advantage against another player who was using an LCD with fairly high input lag?
Yes that's right, effectively what you see is behind the real state of the game, so you press fire when actually the target has already passed your crosshair and therefore miss.
Of couse there's a debate to be had about whether 60 ms lag is enough to make any real difference to your play. I personally think it would in fast games like UT instagib/Q3A/CS1.6 etc (or indeed any game where you're sniping moving targets) based on my experience with my old samsung 172T PVA monitor (I could easily perceive the lag on that, and IMO if you can perceive it then it's big enough to matter).
Of couse there's a debate to be had about whether 60 ms lag is enough to make any real difference to your play. I personally think it would in fast games like UT instagib/Q3A/CS1.6 etc (or indeed any game where you're sniping moving targets) based on my experience with my old samsung 172T PVA monitor (I could easily perceive the lag on that, and IMO if you can perceive it then it's big enough to matter).
Interesting review although personally I'd have put a lot more emphasis on the perceived effects of the input lag.
I've recently got a 2408 at work and the input lag is very very noticable even during normal Windows use. You can feel something isn't right when moving the mouse cursor around the screen and if you grab a window and then drag it left and right across the screen repeatedly it just feels laggy. This would be a nightmare for gaming imo.
Man of Honour
BenQ FP241W
I got one of these screens this morning and although I haven't quite got Windows looking quite as nice as my NEC 20WGX2 (colours need tweaking and can't get a comfortable brightness yet), PS3 and the 360 look very nice.
So far I haven't seen any sign of the Input Lag, but I have only played WoW and a few things on the 360. I'm not really a FPS gamer and even if I was I doubt I'd notice.
Image quality is very nice and the colours, although in need of tweaking for me (I've got pinky looking whites using factory settings), are very vivid yummy looking.
1:1 is great, and the panels inbuilt scaling is much better than I was used to on the NEC 20WGX2 (which imo was shockingly poor, non-native res was rubbish).
So far I haven't seen any sign of the Input Lag, but I have only played WoW and a few things on the 360. I'm not really a FPS gamer and even if I was I doubt I'd notice.
Image quality is very nice and the colours, although in need of tweaking for me (I've got pinky looking whites using factory settings), are very vivid yummy looking.
1:1 is great, and the panels inbuilt scaling is much better than I was used to on the NEC 20WGX2 (which imo was shockingly poor, non-native res was rubbish).