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zophiel said:
wots the best Mhz/timings u can get out off the standard GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C5 800MHz
mine is runnin at 840Mhz / 5.5.5.20 timings
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wots the best Mhz/timings u can get out off the standard GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C5 800MHz
mine is runnin at 840Mhz / 5.5.5.20 timings
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i havent tried anything but the standard 5-5-5-5-15 @ 800 mhz
High 2160 Temps ?
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My first time so please be gentle. I got a C2D 2160 recently and plugged it into a Gigabyte 965-DS3 mobo, with 2Gbyte of Kingston PC6400 DDR2 RAM and an 8800GTS graphics card. Using the memory divider I have been increasing the FSB all the way to 335Mhz for 3Ghz, and at idle the temps are pretty much 46-48'C across the two cores even at the higher clocks. Whilst the system POSTs and XP loads OK, under load (using Orthos blend) the temps rise to 60-62'C for the first 20 mins or so, but increase pretty quickly up to 67-71'C after that (ie when the 80000 set of tests kick in) and I wimp out for fear of damage. I use an Akasa AK-961 for air cooling (QST or BIOS control makes little difference), plus the case has one top and one side fan blowing in, and a single fan at the back sucking out (should it be 1 blowing in and two out, or add another sucking out to equalise flow ?). I have tried reducing the vcore to see if that helps (around 3Ghz it is 1.39V from memory in cpu-z using the BIOS Auto setting - using various fixed values up to 1.375V it simply refuses to boot).
Given the setup below, is there any other way to cool the CPU to keep it under 60'C under load ? I'm guessing the AK-961 is a pretty lightweight cooler but don't have the money for a much better option (although I could stretch to the AC7 on offer at OcUK at the moment, if it is a much better cooler). I could also try setting the AK-961 to max full time as it is not too loud, or is there any advice on improving airflow using the case fans to reduce the temps ?
Or at 2.7Ghz I'm already getting a good return from the 2160 and should be happy (or buy a 6750 !).
Thanks for any suggestions.
Specs :
C2D 2160 at 2.7Ghz / 2Gbyte PC6400 / AK-961 / Audigy Z2S / PNY 8800GTS 320Mhz / Jeantech 450W PSU / 80Ghz WD SATA
cjph
Hi
My first time so please be gentle. I got a C2D 2160 recently and plugged it into a Gigabyte 965-DS3 mobo, with 2Gbyte of Kingston PC6400 DDR2 RAM and an 8800GTS graphics card. Using the memory divider I have been increasing the FSB all the way to 335Mhz for 3Ghz, and at idle the temps are pretty much 46-48'C across the two cores even at the higher clocks. Whilst the system POSTs and XP loads OK, under load (using Orthos blend) the temps rise to 60-62'C for the first 20 mins or so, but increase pretty quickly up to 67-71'C after that (ie when the 80000 set of tests kick in) and I wimp out for fear of damage. I use an Akasa AK-961 for air cooling (QST or BIOS control makes little difference), plus the case has one top and one side fan blowing in, and a single fan at the back sucking out (should it be 1 blowing in and two out, or add another sucking out to equalise flow ?). I have tried reducing the vcore to see if that helps (around 3Ghz it is 1.39V from memory in cpu-z using the BIOS Auto setting - using various fixed values up to 1.375V it simply refuses to boot).
Given the setup below, is there any other way to cool the CPU to keep it under 60'C under load ? I'm guessing the AK-961 is a pretty lightweight cooler but don't have the money for a much better option (although I could stretch to the AC7 on offer at OcUK at the moment, if it is a much better cooler). I could also try setting the AK-961 to max full time as it is not too loud, or is there any advice on improving airflow using the case fans to reduce the temps ?
Or at 2.7Ghz I'm already getting a good return from the 2160 and should be happy (or buy a 6750 !).
Thanks for any suggestions.
Specs :
C2D 2160 at 2.7Ghz / 2Gbyte PC6400 / AK-961 / Audigy Z2S / PNY 8800GTS 320Mhz / Jeantech 450W PSU / 80Ghz WD SATA
cjph
Blimy, some of you guys are getting really high temps :S
Im idleing between 25c and 30c, max under loads low 50's .
And thats at 3ghz on a E2140 :s With the fan point the wrong way round in the case (not exhausting effeciently).
(btw, i hear everyone saying the stock voltage is 1.325, mine says 1.35v max on the box so whats the actual stock voltage?).
Cjph, with the cooling you have that seems high, even with a poor cooler, have you tried re-seating the heatsink with new thermal paste ?
Im idleing between 25c and 30c, max under loads low 50's .
And thats at 3ghz on a E2140 :s With the fan point the wrong way round in the case (not exhausting effeciently).
(btw, i hear everyone saying the stock voltage is 1.325, mine says 1.35v max on the box so whats the actual stock voltage?).
Cjph, with the cooling you have that seems high, even with a poor cooler, have you tried re-seating the heatsink with new thermal paste ?
My E2140 idles at the same temps at 3Ghz.
I think you need a better cooler if you want better load temps.
Might as well get the AC7 Pro whilst it is on offer, comes with an MX-1 pad too which should help. You should see about 10 degrees knocked off, maybe more.
Some people have better idle temps due to the P35 motherboards I think, not entirely sure.
I think you need a better cooler if you want better load temps.
Might as well get the AC7 Pro whilst it is on offer, comes with an MX-1 pad too which should help. You should see about 10 degrees knocked off, maybe more.
Some people have better idle temps due to the P35 motherboards I think, not entirely sure.
DavidB said:
I wondered about the connection but I tried re-seating the Akasa using the same paste which came with the cooler, but seemed to get the same results - I only had some cheap paste to hand and the stock stuff looked OK. I should have mentioned I am using TAT to monitor the temps though have Core Temp now so will try that during half time as there are varying views on TAT vs Core Temp
Does anyone have a feel on whether the AC Freezer 7 Pro is much better than the Akasa AK-961 ?
UPDATE (post footie)
Re-seating again and using a different paste did not help the temps as all, and they were not even significantly lower when I reverted the chip the stock 1.8Ghz. So the AKASA is going back as it is no better than the Intel fan. I have an AC7 Pro on order so will try that.
Thanks for your help.
cjph
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Let us know how you get on with the Freezer pro cjph as I've pretty much got exactly the same setup as you and want to know how easy the pro is to fit on a 965p-DS3.
I was almost going to get the freezer the other day but I've not done any overclocking yet and wanted to know how the stock cooler will do. I've seen people using the stock cooler and hitting 3ghz.
I was almost going to get the freezer the other day but I've not done any overclocking yet and wanted to know how the stock cooler will do. I've seen people using the stock cooler and hitting 3ghz.
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cjph said:
That will do wonders for your temps, give orthos 30mins for the load temps to stabilise.
Thanks Melbourne - and for your 2160 vs 6600 review which was the primary driver behind my going for the 2160. Sometimes forget my old San Diego 4000 only managed 200Mhz over the stock 2.4Ghz, though that was on an MSI mobo . . .
Target is 3Ghz stable so there is more grunt for Armed Assault, which is a resource hog across the board.
cjph
Target is 3Ghz stable so there is more grunt for Armed Assault, which is a resource hog across the board.
cjph
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You're welcome 
I am concerned that the e6600 Vs Q6600 comparison might not happen, as people with my old revision 680i are having problems with clocking it.
Might have to do the comparison on X38
Apologies, back on topic, people are getting some nice clocks with the e2160.
Is there a consensus about which motherboard is best, or do most big brand P965 or P35 mobos do the job?
I am concerned that the e6600 Vs Q6600 comparison might not happen, as people with my old revision 680i are having problems with clocking it.
Might have to do the comparison on X38
Apologies, back on topic, people are getting some nice clocks with the e2160.
Is there a consensus about which motherboard is best, or do most big brand P965 or P35 mobos do the job?
melbourne720 said:You're welcome
I am concerned that the e6600 Vs Q6600 comparison might not happen, as people with my old revision 680i are having problems with clocking it.
Might have to do the comparison on X38
Apologies, back on topic, people are getting some nice clocks with the e2160.
Is there a consensus about which motherboard is best, or do most big brand P965 or P35 mobos do the job?
I think most do the job tbh, all of them can reach 3Ghz I think.
The difference comes in cooling though, going past 3Ghz seems to be much easier with P35 boards and report much lower temps 10/15 degrees cooler.
I think that has to do with better phase cooling of the boards, not entirely sure.
If people are buying new, P35 is definitely the way to go especially as they're similarly priced to P965.
Big.Wayne said:That sounds a bit funky?
Not really heard of a chipset making a cpu run that much cooler before?
I know! But it seems that way with the E21*0's.
People on P965 chips seem to idle in high 40's and load high 50's and low 60's.
Yet at the same clock (usually 3Ghz ish) people on P35 boards seem to report idle temps at low 30's and load high 40's, on otherwise very similar setups.
Strange eh? Only thing I could think of is the difference in boards under these circumstances make a fair bit of difference.
I was on the verge of ordering an AMD BE-2350 with the new Gigabyte mATX board after seeing the a few reviews, but this thread has totally changed my mind, seeing as I can get a far better combination for the same money.
My only concern is choice of motherboard. I'm going for the E2160 and the OCZ RAM that's in This Week Only, but I have yet to decide on mobo.
After seeing the P5K and 965-DS3 get good results I was looking at these, but neither have reducing memory divider, which I'm really concerned about, since I've always relied on standard RAM and a divider to get the FSB up.
What would people suggest? Is it a non-issue with the OCZ RAM or shall I go for a different board? I'm on a tight budget.
My only concern is choice of motherboard. I'm going for the E2160 and the OCZ RAM that's in This Week Only, but I have yet to decide on mobo.
After seeing the P5K and 965-DS3 get good results I was looking at these, but neither have reducing memory divider, which I'm really concerned about, since I've always relied on standard RAM and a divider to get the FSB up.
What would people suggest? Is it a non-issue with the OCZ RAM or shall I go for a different board? I'm on a tight budget.
Hi
Added the AC7 Pro (thanks OcUK) to the machine as below (after much fiddling - why put the pegs under the fan ?), though at 2.7Ghz the TAT temps are averaging 68'C and Core Temp 71'C after 35 mins of Orthos blend (and periods of 71/74'C), so not much improvement over the Akasa so far. Control is via Intel QST/PWM in BIOS.
I read somewhere that some thermal compounds take a while to reach optimum - is this true of the AC7 compound ? Or should I look at saving for some better cooling (ie Tuniq Tower) or a better airflow in the case ? Worse case, I'll start saving for a 6750 or similar.
cjph
Specs :
C2D 2160 at 2.7Ghz / Gigabyte 965P-DS3 / 2Gbyte PC6400 / AC7 Pro / Audigy Z2S / PNY 8800GTS 320Mhz / Jeantech 450W PSU / 80Ghz WD SATA
Added the AC7 Pro (thanks OcUK) to the machine as below (after much fiddling - why put the pegs under the fan ?), though at 2.7Ghz the TAT temps are averaging 68'C and Core Temp 71'C after 35 mins of Orthos blend (and periods of 71/74'C), so not much improvement over the Akasa so far. Control is via Intel QST/PWM in BIOS.
I read somewhere that some thermal compounds take a while to reach optimum - is this true of the AC7 compound ? Or should I look at saving for some better cooling (ie Tuniq Tower) or a better airflow in the case ? Worse case, I'll start saving for a 6750 or similar.
cjph
Specs :
C2D 2160 at 2.7Ghz / Gigabyte 965P-DS3 / 2Gbyte PC6400 / AC7 Pro / Audigy Z2S / PNY 8800GTS 320Mhz / Jeantech 450W PSU / 80Ghz WD SATA