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***The Official E2140/E2160 Overclocking Thread***

Hey guys, I was wondering if you could give me any tips that you've found with these specific cpu's?
Some people saying here they went straight in at 2.6/2.8ghz, this a wise thing to do?

I'm overclocking a friends system when it arrives this week (spec: DS3R, 2gb OCZ plat rev, 2140, ocz vindicator HSF, NZXT hush), first time overclocking with some decent kit so fingers crossed :)

I have just built a very similar system to yours, for a friend (see previous post above) and am having real trouble with it as i think that the RAM i have been sent is faulty.

Only got it running at 2.2GHz at the moment, and even then it doesnt like restarting, am gonna try my RAM in it and see what happens.
 
just installed this setup

e2180
abit ip35
2gb crucial ballistix pc6400
thermalright ultima 90
xilence 120mm fan

going to have a go at overclocking it in the next couple of days.

have you guys been lowering the cpu multiplier whilst finding the max stable fsb or have you just been keeping the multiplier the same and edging up the fsb?
 
My E2140 runs stable at 3200MHz using just 1.400vCore, it does 3000MHz using stock volts (1.3500vCore). The Ballistix I am using runs at 400MHz (DDR2-800) using 1.8vDimm.

e21403200mhz24hoursrk1.jpg


Your volts seems a bit high to me for the speeds u are running?

That's very nice! I think you have a good chip, mine is similar to Reppyboyo, running my E2140 at 3.2Ghz with 1.5V through it. Also have my NB at 1.55V with the Ballistix PC5300 @ 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 2.1V. Running out of ideas atm. Does reducing the LDT frequency on the P5N-E help?

It is not orthos blend stable (does not crash or bluescreen just restarts pc). Will try running just 1.4V later. I know you're thinking it might be the RAM but I've run memtest overnight at 1.1Ghz 5-5-5-15 2.1V without any error.

Would you guys rather keep a 3.1Ghz E4300 or a 3.2Ghz E2140?
 
On the DS3R motherboard are there any bios settings that you need to turn off before you can start overclocking?

Also, what is the stock voltage for a 2140? [edit] nm found it's 1.325

Help appreciated :)
 
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On the DS3R motherboard are there any bios settings that you need to turn off before you can start overclocking?

Also, what is the stock voltage for a 2140?

Help appreciated :)

Stock voltage is 1.325, 1.35 is what they recommend max.

But obv can go past that.
 
Strangely it's 1.325v for many of the E2140/60 L2 steppings but the M0 stepping generally has a lower voltage.
 
Would you guys rather keep a 3.1Ghz E4300 or a 3.2Ghz E2140?
E4300's extra cache might make a little extra benefit, id bench them both and compare though (and compare volts and stuff too).

Seems like the M0 stepping also has a higher max voltage (1.35v instead of 1.325v).
 
According to Intel's processor finder page both L2 and M0 have a voltage range of 1.162v - 1.312V which doesn't seem right as 1.325v is higher than that!

Also the Thermal specification is 61.4c for L2 and 73.2c for M0 and I've found the delta between motherboard reported CPU temp is ~15c for L2 and ~5c for M0 so it would seem M0 CPUs can transfer heat to the IHS a lot better than L2 CPUs.
 
Haven't posted in here yet about my overclocking adventures with the E21xx CPUs so here's my E2180 M0 stepping CPU cooled by a Tuniq Tower at 3.2GHz with 1.4125v (BIOS setting):



Will leave it running overnight but I imagine it'll be multi-core Prime95 stable as at 3.33GHz it took over 6 hours to fail.

Over 9 hours now:

 
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I'm only on 2.8GHz at the mo. How far do you think i can take this on stock volts?

Also, Intel list the core voltage as 1.162V-1.312V. i think mine is running at the lower end of this by default. can i just manually raise it to 1.312V to get more from the cpu? I'm an overclocking novice ;)

Also when i run CPU-z i'm getting a 6x multiplier until i stress it. is this some sort of power saving feature? do i need to turn it off?

e2180
abit ip35
2gb crucial ballistix pc6400
thermalright ultima 90
xilence 120mm fan
 
Yes, most the principal of overclocking is increasing the FSB and the voltage, my E2140 box says the max voltage is 1.35v on it though, although mines currently at 1.4v @3.2ghz.

The intel speed step reduces the multiplier as an energy saving method, boosts back up to 10x as soon as it has work to do, you can turn of the setting in the bios (its normally under something about power saving).

2180's have managed 3.4ghz fairl easily by the looks of things, 3.6ghz wouldn't be suprsing at all though, 3.8+ would be impressive.
 
cool... going to play around with it over the weekend. I'd be quite happy with 3ghz. A 50% increase would be pretty good for me. These chips are bargainous!:D
 
Any chance someone could help me out please? :)

I have a E2140, ASUS P5B Deluxe and 2GB of Crucial Ballsitix Memory (5300).

Its stable at 2.96GHz. Multi is set to 8 and FSB is at 370, pumpimg 1.4 Vcore threw it. Now if i raise it above 370 it will just not post. I have tried upping the Vcore to 1.5, still no go. I have tried 371, 372, 373 etc..
 
Any chance someone could help me out please? :)

I have a E2140, ASUS P5B Deluxe and 2GB of Crucial Ballsitix Memory (5300).

Its stable at 2.96GHz. Multi is set to 8 and FSB is at 370, pumpimg 1.4 Vcore threw it. Now if i raise it above 370 it will just not post. I have tried upping the Vcore to 1.5, still no go. I have tried 371, 372, 373 etc..

what speed are you running the ram at?
 
change the ratio and take the ram out of the equation to see if it posts

Sorry what do you mean Easy?

Just been looking around have come across this article:

For the i965 chipset to stand a chance of hitting high FSB speeds some clever manipulation of the chipset internal timings are needed. Most know Intel release CPU's with various default FSB speeds, the usual suspects are 533, 800 and 1067. Celerons are usually fixed on the 533 bus but should be moving soon to the 800, most other P4 775 CPU's are 800 bus speed apart from the older Extreme Edition and the new C2D CPU's that are based on the 1067FSB.

The CPU has a set of pins or dots on the base called the BSEL . These pins or dots actually tell the board what FSB to apply to the CPU and tell the chipset what strap to run. The strap is actually a set of ram ratio's and a clock muliplier along with an internal latency setting. Try to think of the northbridge pretty much like a CPU...it uses a default frequency and a muliplier..and yes you can overclock it.In difference to a CPU though it also controls the memory and as such has internal latency settings that can be changed also.

Now....what you have to remember is as you push up the FSB on the CPU you also push up the FSB on the chipset. By default the chipset hits its max clock way before the CPU does...so what do you do?

The answer is manipulate the chipset into thinking it is working with a CPU that has a higher FSB default speed.
How this is done is by altering the BSEL signals the chipset uses and by setting the undocumented(at this time) 1333 strap...this means the chipset thinks it is working with a CPU that has a base FSB speed of 333 (quad pumped is 1333)

Now Asus have been quite slick with the P5B range of boards as they allow the chipset to overclock quite a bit before they slow it down by altering the strap, what this means is that once slowed down by the 1333 strap it is already in an overclocked state. The bad part is that between 360 and 399fsb the chipset is massively overclocked and really does struggle some what, the consequence of this is an "FSB hole" where it is hard to get the board stable. In reality all you have to do to avoid this "hole" is set 400fsb or higher as the strap changes here to 1333 and the board takes off again usually all the way to 500+FSB. I explain more on what exactly is happening here in more detail.

What would be nice is the 1333 strap coming in at 360FSB but with the internal latency set using the 1067 strap which is faster than the 1333 latency setting, this would allow the board to work well up towards 399FSB.from 400FSB you would relax the latency setting to the 1333 default and allow the board to clock all the way to 500+ without the non usable hole we see at this time. hopefully if Asus see this article they will tweak the bios to set more like what I have quoted...but for now the board is an awesome overclocker as it is by default but it has this 1 quirk.

I sort of understand it but not fully.
 
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These E21** chips have a lowish FSB wall and It appears that you have hit yours. Increasing the PLL votage can gain you a little more FSB, maybe to 400, but unfortunatly I dont believe your P5B motherboard has an option in the bios for that. You would need a P35 board for that.

The low FSB wall is why the E2180 seem attractive with its x10 multi, but I still think the temps will keep peoples clocks down.
 
These E21** chips have a lowish FSB wall and It appears that you have hit yours. Increasing the PLL votage can gain you a little more FSB, maybe to 400, ... You would need a P35 board for that.

Thats interesting, Ive not heard that before; I thought the fsb wall was out of our hands.
 
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