I know what you mean. I don't like the thought of not training skills aswell, i didn't intend on leaving the game but i took the opportunity while my subscription was out for 5 days. I just can't justify paying for it just to train skills though. 
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i personally dont like the offline skill training, i can understand why people do but if i put a lot of time in with a game i can increase my skills etc, but all you get with eve is an improvement in standing and isk. the skills that take weeks to train are basically a con to keep us paying.
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not really, the longer you play the more isk you get which you can spend on implants to further improve your attributes and increase your training speed to levels which somone who plays occasionally cannot achieve imo
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bah, make that the second ship I lost. Another merlin down the hole in equally stupid cercumstances 
Possibly the reason why Eve's userbase tends to be slightly older than other MMORPGs in my opinion. A lot of the people have full time jobs etc, and whilst they dedicate a lot of time to Eve, they know that they can set a long skill training and get on with Real Life if needs be.
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n3crius said:
Also the great thing about eve is someone with only a million sps can make a massive difference. A vigil with Electronic warfare capability can make a battleship of a very experienced player useless. Although you will not be able to kill him alone if you brong some friends he will go down due to not being able to fire or run.
Likewise, a load of frigates can also kill a very experienced player if they web and scramble him and while taking out his drones or avoiding his smartbomb. Being useful as a young player takes more skill as you have to find a niche where you can be useful but there is always something you can do. Even in non-combat, i spend my first 4 corp mining ops simply hauling in my iteron 1. It didnt make a lot of difference but if i allowed one less trip for one of the more experienced trip in a bigger hauler then I will have been useful.
A short 6 months later and I can do pretty much anything combat-wise. Althought im yet to venture to 0.0 I can do all level 3 missions solo and ratting in the belts has been very profitable. I can fly an assault frigate and a bs and was lucky enough to find a vigilant (faction thorax) blue print in ladistier which is a 50m isk ship more or less fo free. The point is though the time its taken me to get here has never been boring, and although there were times when I was waiting for a skill to finish to do the next thing, last week waiting for small railgun 5 for instance I could have been doing anything.
daz said:Possibly the reason why Eve's userbase tends to be slightly older than other MMORPGs in my opinion. A lot of the people have full time jobs etc, and whilst they dedicate a lot of time to Eve, they know that they can set a long skill training and get on with Real Life if needs be.
And you actually have to think quite a lot in Eve imho.
b (thats it) said:damn, well i've lost my first ship, only a merlin that I had full insurance on, but I lost my 150mm railgun, 125mm railgun, both rocket launchers
definitly a brown pants moment for someone whos been playing less than 20 days
your' rockets only have a 5km range, why not use blasters?
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Been playing Eve all night and although getting quite excited earlier im now slightly tee'd off.
Started off with a corp chat where myself and corp mates decided we wanted to join an alliance and go "carebear" so we mustered up the ISK for the fee's for the ISS. Asked a few questions, sent the ISK and applied. Now to wait until we're official members.
However, being late and me being pretty tired (I always lose ships when im tired) I was doing a Level 3 mission in my Raven and due to a bad set up I had to warp out but couldn't. Ended up loosing it and then finding it wasn't insured.
It's got to be the only game where you can go from liking it to hating it in such a short space of time.
Started off with a corp chat where myself and corp mates decided we wanted to join an alliance and go "carebear" so we mustered up the ISK for the fee's for the ISS. Asked a few questions, sent the ISK and applied. Now to wait until we're official members.
However, being late and me being pretty tired (I always lose ships when im tired) I was doing a Level 3 mission in my Raven and due to a bad set up I had to warp out but couldn't. Ended up loosing it and then finding it wasn't insured.
It's got to be the only game where you can go from liking it to hating it in such a short space of time.
You'll get over the loss. I think I may have said it earlier in this thread but I managed to lose two Ravens on two successive missions some time back. At the time I was a good Gallente pilot but fancied trying something different so I trained Caldari. Didn't like it, didn't do very well so I came back to 0.0 and haven't been back to a level 4 agent since.
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I've spent a lot of time in 0.0 but just never seem to be able to stay there. Will see how it goes over the coming week's with the new alliance.
As for getting over the loss I already have. Had a shed load of mineral's so i've brought a few BPC's and going to set some of those off and throw them onto the market Monday morning.
As for getting over the loss I already have
. Had a shed load of mineral's so i've brought a few BPC's and going to set some of those off and throw them onto the market Monday morning.
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VeNT said:
I actually have standard missiles, i'm always mixing them up. I usually try to stay around 10km away. In that one it was a "ah crap" moment, locked targets, and then figured I had better warp out, which I just barely did not manage
. I'm not too worried about it though, on the secound one I lost I stupidly did not get the full insurance because I was going to move up to a cruiser in a couple days anyways, but its only 250ish thousand isk anyways. I've still got around 3 million anyways so after I finish skill training for a cruiser i'll get a cheaper one than I was originally going for.
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Agent_matt said:
For lvl 3 missions, you are much better off in an Assault frigate. The retribution specifically since you it never runs out of cap and has an awesome tank. Because its so small, cruisers can't really hit you and missles do hardly and damage. Its also a lot faster for moving around than a bs.
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Thanks for the info CryptKeeper. However today is working day and I have a lot of coursework due in so again im sitting in a 1.0 in my badger with the cargohold maxed out with expanders and mining away.
There's a lot of suicide guys running around though. Some guy just got ganked by Concord
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There's a lot of suicide guys running around though. Some guy just got ganked by Concord
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Ya think?KraniX said:
Add to that the heavy encouragement to go specialised.. which indirectly encourages you to get multiple accounts so you can specialise in multiple areas etc.
Whilst every game has it's kiddies playing, I have to say I think DAoC's userbase is 'older' than EVE's, particularly because there is no way to ruin someone's day in the way you can in EVE (Piracy/Corp Theft/etc.) which attracts the eejits to the gamedaz said:Possibly the reason why Eve's userbase tends to be slightly older than other MMORPGs in my opinion. A lot of the people have full time jobs etc, and whilst they dedicate a lot of time to Eve, they know that they can set a long skill training and get on with Real Life if needs be.
Still a fantastic game, but it is really difficult to be a casual gamer imo, like my situation.. I get really bored of doing anything vs. AI, I just like to pvp.. but without the time and dedication to stockpile ships and isk, I can't fight because I don't have any ships to fight in.. catch 22.
btw, a pic of how well a retribution works (1280x1024):
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~goldfish/retribution.PNG
Just don't get webbed...
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The Retri is a fine ship, my alt flies one every day, only pain is the range that pulse lasers have.
Interesting weekend what with DOFA hooking up with Burn Eden. Although im getting tired of F-E forming frig gangs to come into Dek, and simply run away when they are greeted with a fight.
Interesting weekend what with DOFA hooking up with Burn Eden. Although im getting tired of F-E forming frig gangs to come into Dek, and simply run away when they are greeted with a fight.