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dont play with gimbo! hes a tool! :) enough said.

And jon i gave my reasons for leaving, and wasnt nothing personal with you or the good man trance. Dont see why this is dragging on now.

and as for ruining club ? i dont get that. are others not allowed to leave because of their own views ? nobody has been poached , and they can all vouch for that.
 
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u dont play with gimbo? so why move to his club then?

your reason is because of phil and doom yet u joined gimbo who u slagged off far more then phil and doomer.

Doesnt make sense to me. It's dragging on because you and others are not making sense at all with your reasoning.

I bet that even if i was to kick out phil and doom, it wouldnt make a single difference as u lot will just make up another excuse like "meh, i dont enjoy playing with your club because i dont like the name of the club"

lol
 
i aint at gimbos club ? dont know where your getting that from bud. i cant stand gimbo and his dancing on the park, not my type of team.

And ive since cleared the air with matty along time ago and both understood what the problem was. Now there is really good chemistry with us. Because there is the right approach to Fifa Clubs.

When i suggested my game plan and approach to tactics it was shot down in the lobby by "undercover boss" and his 12th wonder of the world speech.

But the others who are with me now, are very happy with my approach to fifa clubs and time i take to explain to them on a man management base. and results show and performances. I take the time to talk to the team and squad members to explain what can be done and how to get better , i dont bark at members and force them out of position.
 
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i aint at gimbos club ? dont know where your getting that from bud. i cant stand gimbo and his dancing on the park, not my type of team.

And ive since cleared the air with matty along time ago and both understood what the problem was. Now there is really good chemistry with us. Because there is the right approach to Fifa Clubs.

??

Matty is in gambo's club called avf and if your playing with matty, your playing on gambo's club:rolleyes:

Unless matty has hacked the game and found a way to be part of two different clubs.

You say you make good chemistry with matty yet YOUR the one who slagged him off:rolleyes: That is my point, you slagged him off and now best mates again?

So you cleared the air together, why couldnt u do that in the ocuk club?
 
matty isnt in gimbos club at all.

"why couldnt you do that in the ocuk club" let me think, cause the bad apples are still there. Look closer to home to find the problem.
 
matty isnt in gimbos club at all.

"why couldnt you do that in the ocuk club" let me think, cause the bad apples are still there. Look closer to home to find the problem.

Yes he is, well he diffenetly was on thursday nigth when we played your club. pass8move was their too.

Dont know what your on about mate?

The bad apples were matty and gimbo according to u yet you at least joined one of them?

Who else is a bad apple. me? TNA?
 
i dont name and shame on the forums, each to their own. Not the approach i take.

You can continue to do that all you want jon.

Pass8 isnt with gimbo either.
 
i dont name and shame on the forums, each to their own. Not the approach i take.

You can continue to do that all you want jon.

Pass8 isnt with gimbo either.

well like i said, they was all together in gimbo's team on thursday night so if u lot created a new club seperate from him then ok cool but that wasnt stated by matty or anyone else though.

It still doesnt make any sense why u, matty and others joined together when the soul reason u guys left was because of eachother. That doesnt make sense mate.
 
Deja vu.

You shall feel the wrath of Jonney Mendoza. Do your own thing and don't listen even though they will try to drag it out and make it look like you "destroyed" Sad pandas 2. :cool:

Holla at ya
 
well like i said, they was all together in gimbo's team on thursday night so if u lot created a new club seperate from him then ok cool but that wasnt stated by matty or anyone else though.

It still doesnt make any sense why u, matty and others joined together when the soul reason u guys left was because of eachother. That doesnt make sense mate.


"mate" at the end, but you want to name and shame and accuse me and others of destroying the club. Very mature that was.
 
Love the way pass8 and matty talked everyone into joining their team though.

Just to clarify my leaving of ocuk fc.... no one spoke to me, it was completely my own decision based on activity and nothing more. Hopefully no hard feelings from anyone though....i just want to play the game, win or lose, can't do that when no one's on when i'm on.
 
Just to clarify my leaving of ocuk fc.... no one spoke to me, it was completely my own decision based on activity and nothing more. Hopefully no hard feelings from anyone though....i just want to play the game, win or lose, can't do that when no one's on when i'm on.

Hi mrbios. Yeah, I understood your reason perfectly. Made complete sense and in your situation I would have done the same mate. I have no hard feelings with you, doubt Jon or anyone else does either :)

Seems that one line I wrote keeps getting quoted to me. Lol. :p

As I mentioned earlier, if you look from our perspective, surely you can see how it may have looked that way. But not saying it definitely did happen, just looked like that. No biggie :)

Will post more later, bit busy at the moment.
 
They probably left because of all this bickering lol but then its coming from both clubs now, I just get on with it lol. I have thought about leaving and probably would have if I didn't know you guys but I wouldn't of left to join they other club as that wouldn't be any different looking at it.
 
Hi mrbios. Yeah, I understood your reason perfectly. Made complete sense and in your situation I would have done the same mate. I have no hard feelings with you, doubt Jon or anyone else does either :)

Seems that one line I wrote keeps getting quoted to me. Lol. :p

As I mentioned earlier, if you look from our perspective, surely you can see how it may have looked that way. But not saying it definitely did happen, just looked like that. No biggie :)

Will post more later, bit busy at the moment.

I can understand how it looks from your perspective, 1 by 1 watching the squad count drop :( I came on about 11pm last night to see if anyone was about (to be fair i know it was a friday night so wasn't really expecting anyone on :p) and noticed it had hit 12 or 13 and when i looked at the squad only 5 people were regulars. Couldn't really see me getting a game in that situation especially as 1 or 2 of that 5 i'd simply never seen on during the times i was on! lol

Fingers crossed things pick up though and both clubs get some good rivalry going :D
 
This is too much childish bickering over a simple game :D but I always knew this would happen....:rolleyes:

Love the way pass8 and matty talked everyone into joining their team though.

Not sure where you got this from Trance, neither me or Matty talked anyone or recruited anyone from the OCUK club, pretty much everyone from the club who joined ours joined out of their own accord, I was surprised myself to login in the evenings for a few games and be greeted with new players, I thought it was some sort of joke with the whole rivalry thing. :D

Also I'm not sure of everything that happened between the club and Matty, but you guys obviously did not know him well and handled whatever happened quite badly. I've played with the guy since the first club and he is not some greedy player who shoots all the time, there might be times where he is selfish which you would expect from a striker, but most of the time he is a top team player and one of the reasons for the success in AVF and the new club was due to his all round play, he would attack, link up, pass, defend etc.

I only joined Gimbal's club when Matty asked me to help them get started, otherwise I was going to return to another club I was playing for anyway. But Gimbal turned out to be a time waster, so we have all created another new club.

Personally I have no qualms with anyone, not sure why everyone is making such a big deal out of a mere game.
 
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They probably left because of all this bickering lol but then its coming from both clubs now, I just get on with it lol. I have thought about leaving and probably would have if I didn't know you guys but I wouldn't of left to join they other club as that wouldn't be any different looking at it.

Hehe, you probably would not be welcome there anyway mate. Lol. We will have discussion soon anyway fix things for good this time :)

On another note. After chatting on origin, it has become clear that the issue was basically people did not liking to be bossed around. Well let me apologise if that is how I came off. That sure was not my intention. To be frank the only 2 people I can look back and think, yeah, you may have a point is matty and pickle. With matty as I explained it was due to people complaining constantly to me about him. But even when talking to him I tried my best to explain its not me trying to be an ****, and I think he somewhat got that, I think, or hope... Lol. With pickle, he just told me and we sorted it out there and then. Simples, not had a problem with him since, and I do hope he enjoyed our games recently. But he is the only one who came to me and communicated instead of leaving.

I think it really does come back to what doomer said before, too many chiefs not enough indians. By that I mean everyone had their own vission for what the club should be and how it should be run etc. I tried my best to run the club as democratically as possible, but it just was not working. We did have some rules set by jon, which wre pretty basic stuff, but even those were not followed by some. People joined and wanted to do what they wanted, what do you expect was gona happen if no one follows rules? Everyone cannot have their way. What my vission for the club was, when someone had an idea for it to be discussed amongst us all and incorporated or rejected depending on majority. But that was simply made impossible by the people. There are just so many variables, and if people are not understanding and are quick to anger and take offence, then there is no chance.

I mean I am sorry to say this, but what chance do we have when someone makes up noise about getting rid of someone, then that person leaves, then the person who made all their noise shortly after goes and joins the person they just in effect helped get rid of? Or when people do not communicate what the real problem is? Hind sight I don't think I did such a bad job, I felt and still feel if I did nothing the club would have imploded long ago. Not looking for any credit either by saying that, all i wanted was a club for us all to play and improve together with.

I don't blame anyone for anything really, as i understand human behaviour, well i think i do. Not everyone can get along with everyone. Does not make them bad people. I chat to most of the guys normally outside of clubs, only one who I don't/won't is gimbal. I would like to think these people don't secretly hate my guts behind my back or something. Lol. :D

I tried my best guys. I am just sorry it was not good enough.
 
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I'm guessing I'm on of the bad apples, considering there isn't that many other people in the team. The thing was people always suggested things after we had a loss, we would have 4 wins a row and then lose 1 and everyone would be like "o we need to change the formation" or blame the ai which was our choice to use or even moan about scripting in fifa. There was a few things that were going wrong every game which I did try and tell the people but then I'm being horrible but I'm not one to talk behind peoples backs. If I am one of the bad apples, I never had a problem with you mad and never realised you did with me. Good luck with the new club and hope things work out the way you want them to.
 
btw mattya nd pass left gimbo's club and its magdeweed'd club they joined who i have had a chat to and realize his club is actually more strict the the ocuk one.

We both aagreed on this
 
tbh that is a lame excuse. you have not even bothered telling us specifically what you do not enjoy about the club that makes the other club more enjoyable.

Like i told u in origin(which u ignored me) i said that if you did not enjoy fifa clubs as a whole, then fair enough, but if our club was messing around all the time, kept losing, had greedy players, bad people etc etc that is all justified but to practically say "meh, im not enjoy it" is a crap excuse if u ask me.

If TNA was doing a greta job as a manager, the cliub playing well etc etc why leave? what makes the other club more enjoyable playing with certain one or two people who slagged u off?

If you think it is a lame excuse then that is your choice. I have nothing else to say on the matter - as there is nothing else to say.

I said to you on origin why I left and I wasn't ignoring you.Trance came on later and asked me what happened, but I couldn't respond to him as I was in-game and he wasn't on for long. I wasn't purposely ignoring him.

I tried my best guys. I am just sorry it was not good enough.

None of this is your fault. It doesn't matter who the manager/managers were, there was always going to be bickering.
 
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If you think it is a lame excuse then that is your choice. I have nothing else to say on the matter - as there is nothing else to say.

I said to you on origin why I left and I wasn't ignoring you.Trance came on later and asked me what happened, but I couldn't respond to him as I was in-game and he wasn't on for long. I wasn't purposely ignoring him.



None of this is your fault. It doesn't matter who the manager/managers were, there was always going to be bickering.

Tbh u never said why u diddnt enjoy the club. Others said your decision was vague too.I asked why u didn't enjoy it and that's when you ignored me /diddnt respond
 
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