**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****

Not much to go on, nothing about rear camera nor any mention of a dedicated processor for the camera

No wireless charging on an £800 phone! come on

and android 8.0?
 
It does say dust proof and water resistant, about half way down.

I do wonder though, given how janky that spec list is and how it keeps repeating the same bits, how real it is.
 
superleeds27 said:
So lets say they price the XL at £799

Surely the V30 wins here? I know we don't get Android 8 out of the box but...
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Android 8 out of the box is still a big deal. I would like to say that quicker updates will happen in 2017/18 (and Google has started to take steps) but keep this fact in mind: only 0.2% of all Android phones currently have Android 8.0!

My own view is that they will not achieve quick updates throughout the Android universe until they make Android proprietary---if that ever happens.
 
Sales of the original Pixel (depending on how you look at it) were poor. Not sure googles long term strategy. Do they want a "look at me device" ala surfacebook where other android manufacturers take notice, or do they want to start carving into android sales and become a real player to take on Samsung? If the later (and they just bought HTC remember) they may well price well to gain market share.
 
TheOracle said:
Sales of the original Pixel (depending on how you look at it) were poor. Not sure googles long term strategy. Do they want a "look at me device" ala surfacebook where other android manufacturers take notice, or do they want to start carving into android sales and become a real player to take on Samsung? If the later (and they just bought HTC remember) they may well price well to gain market share.
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Fingers crossed for a Nexus 4-style announcement - when they basically gave the phone away at £239, and no-one was expecting it.

I very much doubt it though :(
 
TheOracle said:
Sales of the original Pixel (depending on how you look at it) were poor. Not sure googles long term strategy. Do they want a "look at me device" ala surfacebook where other android manufacturers take notice, or do they want to start carving into android sales and become a real player to take on Samsung? If the later (and they just bought HTC remember) they may well price well to gain market share.
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It was estimated recently that Google sold 2 million original Pixels which would have resulted in revenues of between $ 1.5 - $ 2 billion. This is a very small part of Google's revenues, which this year are expected to reach $ 100 billion.

Google has doubled-down on its hardware strategy with the recent acqui-hire of 2,000 HTC engineers and other personnel (deal expected to close in early 2018).

I would be delighted if Google opted for a lower-priced strategy to buy market share but I do not expect it because the new Pixels have upgraded processors, better components generally and more expensive memory.

I believe that for Google to go full-tilt against Samsung, an Android partner, it would have to decide to make Android proprietary. Tell me what is the likelihood of this happening and I will have a more accurate read about future market share of Pixels.
 
reflux said:
Fingers crossed for a Nexus 4-style announcement - when they basically gave the phone away at £239, and no-one was expecting it.

I very much doubt it though :(
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would be nice but almost zero change of that happening. nexus line were known as cheap so they ditched it and came up with the premium pixel line. people think low price means low quality, and google don't want that any more. imagine though a £400 priced pixel 2 xl. would steal so much of the sales if they're after a numbers jump.
 
Fairly sure the answer is no said:
would be nice but almost zero change of that happening. nexus line were known as cheap so they ditched it and came up with the premium pixel line. people think low price means low quality, and google don't want that any more. imagine though a £400 priced pixel 2 xl. would steal so much of the sales if they're after a numbers jump.
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I agree with you but there is a balance. Google phones are not the same kind of quality as the iPhone - in terms of hardware of software support especially. As much as I'd pick a Pixel over an iPhone every time, for the average consumer Google needs to go some before they can compete properly with the iPhone if they are charging a comparable price. IMO, the Pixels need to be priced lower and Google needs to sit in the niche below the iPhone until it can truly compete.
 
TheOracle said:
Sales of the original Pixel (depending on how you look at it) were poor. Not sure googles long term strategy. Do they want a "look at me device" ala surfacebook where other android manufacturers take notice, or do they want to start carving into android sales and become a real player to take on Samsung? If the later (and they just bought HTC remember) they may well price well to gain market share.
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This link to an article in the Verge today addresses your question, at least in part.

However they believe Google's biggest problem will be in meeting the huge demand for the Pixel 2s:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16416376/google-pixel-phone-supply-problem-2017-event-preview
 
Is anyone else's audio completely out of sync?? I have tried on desktop and Macbook, both same.
It's ok on the phone but would rather watch on a bigger screen.

Edit: All sorted, I was watching a third party stream, not on the Google channel. Duh.
 
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