**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****

Tatsuki said:
Am I missing something when people use these calculations? the first google pixel XL was £819 for the 128gb new. You sell it a year later for say £400 (if you are lucky) then you buy the new 128gb XL for £899 quid so you have spent £1318 pounds of your money (£819-400=419, 419+899 = 1318).
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As has been pointed out, that money bought the person two phones not one.

You're right in the respect that we try to justify high value purchases in strange ways at times. I like to have the latest GPU year on year, and I seem to be getting the same way with phones. So after the first outlay, I own a commodity that I can sell which means from that point on it's the upgrade cost that counts. Example:

Cost new: £800 (initial outlay)

Next model: £800
Sell current model: £200
Outlay: £600

...repeat...
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The initial outlay allows you to have the newest model every year for roughly 25% reduction. However, you're still spending £600/year which is £50/month. Add to that, a SIM only line rental cost of £20/month and you've got yourself a fairly expensive commitment there at £70/month. Personally, I wouldn't dream of paying £70/month on a never ending contract with any service provider... but there you go, that's what some people pay.

If we can convince ourselves that last year's handset is still relevant for another year or two (which it actually is, especially with high end) then when you do upgrade after say 3 years its not only far better value for money, it's a brilliant wow factor between the 2 models.
 
String said:
If we can convince ourselves that last year's handset is still relevant for another year or two (which it actually is, especially with high end) then when you do upgrade after say 3 years its not only far better value for money, it's a brilliant wow factor between the 2 models.
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Obviously there is nothing wrong with buying every year if you can afford it. If GPUs or phones are a hobby you enjoy then in the grand scheme of things they are a comparatively affordable outlay. I think though it's better to be honest with yourself about the actual cost, and not try and obfuscate the actual amount of money you're spending over a period of time. I have been hanging onto my iphone 6+ for three years now and it's about getting to a comfortable yearly spend for me at £233 a year, not counting any resale potential :-) .
I agree that you get real value for money when you hold on to each phone for two years and obviously each extra year adds a lot of value. Phones are heading the same way as PCs, I last upgraded my PC in 2012 and it still works perfectly, it still plays all the games I play exceptionally well and I only spent £700 on it in 2012! Spending £800 to £1000 on a phone that will last me five plus years is much more palatable.
 
Hello, Pixel fans!

Earlier this week we announced the all-new Google Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL with the world’s best smartphone camera — again. If you missed it yesterday, check out Mario introducing our new phones here (go to 1:18:00 to jump straight to the camera).

We showed a few photos taken on Pixel 2 during the keynote, and we know some our our most enthusiastic fans will want to see them up close for themselves. Go ahead — take a look at some of our favorite unedited Pixel 2 photos and videos. There are also two videos edited to show side-by-side comparisons of video stabilization.

Our #teampixel community has taken incredible photos with our first Pixel, and I can’t wait to see what you do with the Pixel 2 when you get your hands on one.

For now, let me know what you’re most excited to see in our new camera. :-)

Isaac Reynolds
Product Manager, Camera

PS. Keep an eye out for some tech-talk from us about Portrait in a couple weeks.
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https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsbwahQtEZAUk/?hl=by

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They are fantastic!
 
Tatsuki said:
It still means you out of pocket £1318, I think people try and justify the cost by saying the new phone only cost them £200 £300 but in reality it's obviously a lot more than that, psychological tricks we play on ourselves to justify spending money.
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No tricks, it's maths as explained above. £1,318 and you have a device worth around £900, so you're only really £500 down at that point.
 
V_R said:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsbwahQtEZAUk/?hl=by

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They are fantastic!
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apart from the portrait mode which looks blooming terrible. Parts of the image in focus has areas where the background is sharp, then other parts where the object itself is blurred. This would stop me from using the feature completely.

I love the fact that google made a point saying their single camera can do what other phones require two cameras for, inferring they can keep the price down.....then set the price the same as other phones with two cameras lol
 
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sesevans said:
In presentation, they showed how simple it was to move from an iPhone....a 10 minute exercise.

Google has Android Pay which works fine for me.

That OLED screen and the DXO 98 rated camera and Google Lens and other software enhancements makes the Pixel 2 XL a must have for me.
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It’s not just transferring my settings, it’s the family sharing through iCloud - photos, family calendar, storage, location, films/tv - it’s a web which my family is trapped in! We would all need to go onto Android to keep the same seamless functionality and that just isn’t feasible. I think this is what the big issue is now, how difficult it is to escape the ecosystem, especially as I have 100’s of movies in iTunes which the kids watch on their iPods. I can’t transfer these into Google Play without ripping the DRM and some heavy local storage.
 
The guy in the red jumper, that looks very good. The others are pretty meh. That said, every single photo in standard mode looks amazing.
I can only dream of what a pixel phone would have been like had they installed that second camera.
 
For me I am not a big spender. I still enjoy charity shops for clothes and don't really have many massive spending habits. Go out on the beers once a month and fairly savvy shopper in general.

But.... I always upgrade my pc and phone every generation. I am just a tech fan in that aspect. Really looking forward to the pixel XL 2. Roll on November 15th or whenever it is!

I don't really think of it as resell value. I will pass my current pixel on to the Mrs and this time next year will no doubt rinse and repeat
 
Tatsuki said:
you still have that much less money in your bank
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That's what we're saying. That kinda backs up our point. £800 of it came out a year ago, our bank balance only comes down £400-£500 when upgrading this year. I don't see how you're struggling with it?
 
What does it matter ? It's all relative to how much you earn, spend, where you live and what is a priority or joy in things you buy.

For me I would have been prepared to pay more if the pixel 2 XL cost more than it does. But when it comes to buying fancy clothes I turn my nose up at a shirt that costs more than £15 :)
 
TheOracle said:
apart from the portrait mode which looks blooming terrible. Parts of the image in focus has areas where the background is sharp, then other parts where the object itself is blurred. This would stop me from using the feature completely.
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Which photos specifically? I only glanced through, but the ones using portrait mode looked quite good to me.
 
What's the warranty situation with these phones, does it differ if you buy from EE / CPW or direct from Google? Not really interested in the Google Home Mini (house full of Echos), but Google are showing the Kinda Blue non XL as out of stock.
 
GeX said:
What's the warranty situation with these phones, does it differ if you buy from EE / CPW or direct from Google? Not really interested in the Google Home Mini (house full of Echos), but Google are showing the Kinda Blue non XL as out of stock.
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CPW sent me back to Motorola for my 6p for battery issues so if CPW do then it's still Google for manufacture?
 
Sure, I'd expect it to be go back to Google either way - but my assumption is that it'd be smoother to deal directly with Google rather than Google via CPW.

I also noticed people saying that their 6Ps have 'Google Warranty' when I was looking at buying one second hand.
 
GeX said:
Sure, I'd expect it to be go back to Google either way - but my assumption is that it'd be smoother to deal directly with Google rather than Google via CPW.

I also noticed people saying that their 6Ps have 'Google Warranty' when I was looking at buying one second hand.
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Never had an issue with Google warranty. Phone up get replacement phone next day and then send back old one within the week.

No charge
 
Yeah, that's my point - it sounds better than going via CPW (who ime don't care about you once they've sold you a contract).
 
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