**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****
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What is your point? That you magically not spending the money because you only "spent" £400-500 this year? No matter how you try and say it you do not have that money in your bank account, it's a indisputable fact. It doesn't matter when the money comes out it's still coming out of your account. You are still down the £1318 and you have had two phones but you don't have the money, I don't see what you don't understand about it.
If you paid me £500 a year in 2 years how much money would have you paid me? Just because the payment is spread out doesn't mean you only have given £500.
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Our/my point was simple. To go from phone A to phone B, the final cost (outgoings less incoming) is around £500. As you said, my bank account will be about £500 (or less in my case) worse off than I was before I swapped from one phone to the other. I don't need to save £800 to get the Pixel 2 XL, I need to save (or budget) £400ish (I'm happy with 64gb).
It's not like buying a new pair of trainers for example, where you likely throw the old pair out and buy a new pair. Surely everyone does it with things like their car, their house? You look at what you can get for the old one in budgeting for a new one? It honestly surprises me you're struggling so much with this.
If your current car is worth £10k and you want to buy a £20k car, do you save up £20k?
Yes, the fact is we will only be around £400-£500 worse off in my bank balance once changed over.
If you're arguing that we don't literally pay £500 to Google... then I would guess you're trolling and should probably just stop here.
It's not like buying a new pair of trainers for example, where you likely throw the old pair out and buy a new pair. Surely everyone does it with things like their car, their house? You look at what you can get for the old one in budgeting for a new one? It honestly surprises me you're struggling so much with this.
If your current car is worth £10k and you want to buy a £20k car, do you save up £20k?
Yes, the fact is we will only be around £400-£500 worse off in my bank balance once changed over.
If you're arguing that we don't literally pay £500 to Google... then I would guess you're trolling and should probably just stop here.
Well if you gave £250 back after the first year (selling the phone), I would've paid you £1000 but I'd only be 'down' £750 and if you give me £250 back after the second year (selling the phone).. see where this is going?
I think he thinks we actually don't know we do pay the price listed on the website. He just can't understand we're talking about 'Should I upgrade to a new phone this year? How much will this move cost me?' which I find quite odd as I thought it was a reasonably common thing to do (like the car example).
I am not talking about what you need to save I am saying how much money you are spending, you spent £1318 pounds, if you had never purchased those phones you would have £1318 pounds in your bank account. My only point is that upgrading every year does not cost you only the price you spend that year, its a ongoing cost that adds up.
Lets use your car, you didn't buy the car for free did you? So you spend £20k to buy then you lose £10k in depreciation, so you can sell it for £10k so currently you are £10k down in your bank account still, now you buy your new car for £20k you have spent £30k of your cash.
Lets use your car, you didn't buy the car for free did you? So you spend £20k to buy then you lose £10k in depreciation, so you can sell it for £10k so currently you are £10k down in your bank account still, now you buy your new car for £20k you have spent £30k of your cash.
But I didn't, I will have spent £1618. My point is from that I will have £400 back in my account, the balance is now £1218 and I have a device that right now will be worth (when I get it) pretty close to £799, so I'm only really down £419. This will of course increase as the value of my Pixel 2 XL drops. I then choose the point to sell and buy the next one.
As for the cars, to move from one car to the next cost me £10k. That's what we're talking about. It's really simple.
We are now at the point I will add one more to my ignore list as I think you're arguing against a point we never made and it's getting tiresome trying to explain our point to you.
As for the cars, to move from one car to the next cost me £10k. That's what we're talking about. It's really simple.
We are now at the point I will add one more to my ignore list as I think you're arguing against a point we never made and it's getting tiresome trying to explain our point to you.
The cost to upgrade is still what you spent overall, you just hide your outlay by spreading the cost out and recouping the initial outlay partially by reselling your phone, you still spent £1318 even though this year you account only went down £500 over the last two years it went down £1318.
My initial point was people feel better about upgrading every year because they hide the total cost by saying it only cost this much this year but they don't take into account the total cost of ownership.
Anyway I agree it's a pointless debate.
But you're failing to take into consideration the value of having had a phone for 12 months. It might've 'lost' £250 value of its resale value in a year, but you've still had the use of that phone for a year.
If I buy a phone for £500, and then a year later buy myself an upgraded phone for £500 then my upgraded phone has cost £500 still. It hasn't cost me £1000. I have two phones. Fair enough, one is worth £250 but the other is £500. If I sell the old phone for £250 then that phone has 'cost' me £250 for the year but it has no bearing on the cost of the new phone.
I'm not trying to delude myself and pretend to myself I've not spent whatever amount of money.
If I buy a phone for £500, and then a year later buy myself an upgraded phone for £500 then my upgraded phone has cost £500 still. It hasn't cost me £1000. I have two phones. Fair enough, one is worth £250 but the other is £500. If I sell the old phone for £250 then that phone has 'cost' me £250 for the year but it has no bearing on the cost of the new phone.
I'm not trying to delude myself and pretend to myself I've not spent whatever amount of money.
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At that moment in time. Sell the second phone in a year for say £400, brings the £1300 down to £900 over all spend for 2 phones over 2 years, or £450 per yeae spent in total to have the latest greatest phone
This is factually and indisputably correct. Of course assuming you are happy with having no phone
after the second year.