**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****

[Mekrel]

What confuses me is people have been declaring the V30 one of the phones of the year, but I understand it has the same screen as the 2 XL? I understand it's cheaper, but if the screen is that big an issue, why are people so hot on it (how good the V30 is I mean)?

Because it's a massive step up for LG, they've finally done away with gimmicks like the pointless 2nd screen and hardware add-ons like the G5 had. There needs to be better competition for Samsung and LG are one of the best placed to be that due to the fact they manufacture some components too.

What I believe people are frustrated by with the Pixel 2s is that they're falling short of being great, but in the most frustrating way. The Pixel 2 is a great device but is a underwhelming design, the XL has the great design but it's inexcusable in my opinion to have screen quality issues on a device this price.

Why can't a manufacturer make a phone with top quality hardware (like Samsung level quality), but with a near stock stock Android experience that gets fast updates? Manufacturers have come close but always seem to fall short somewhere.

 

[JediFragger]

I honestly can't remember, I had whole the top case replaced due to a light bleed issue and the new panel didn't have it (and since swapped that whole thing for a 2017)

My friend's S7 does have actual screen burn though, so Samsung aren't immune!

Their was such a hoop-la at the time (with the LG panels being so poor) that I ended up checking what mine was and it was a Sammy so I was quite relieved

 

[JediFragger]

Why can't a manufacturer make a phone with top quality hardware (like Samsung level quality), but with a near stock stock Android experience that gets fast updates?

Agreed, a lot of us would kill for that

 

[sesevans]

Agreed, a lot of us would kill for that

No need to "kill for that ". A lot of us have already found it. It is called Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL.

 

[Mekrel]

No need to "kill for that ". A lot of us have already found it. It is called Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL.

Your post doesn't even make any sense. You might have found it, others have not and are happy to wait until such a device exists. Based on your continual posting of Google related news (often not even relating to the thread subject) you're either affiliated with Google somehow or completely obsessed.

The Pixels are not on the same level hardware wise with Samsung unfortunately, yet are aligned on pricing. There's no questioning LGs P-OLED display is inferior to what Samsung is putting out, the only question is if it bothers the end user. If you're happy with them, good for you.

I owned every Nexus from the Galaxy Nexus through to the Nexus 6, every single one was inferior hardware wise in some area to other devices on the market and I didn't mind - I was paying less after all. If Google want to position Pixel as a premium line of devices then they need to have premium hardware.

 

[AndyCr15]

.What I believe people are frustrated by with the Pixel 2s

And I think this is part of the issue. I think people are letting emotion into their opinion of a device which leads to exaggeration.

I don't know that I believe the V30 is being hailed as that great s phone because it's compared to how good previous LG phones have been either. Again, if reviewers are doing that, they shouldn't. I'm fairly sure the V20 was quite highly regarded anyway.

 

[uvarvu]

Looks like it might be a burn in issue on the XL.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...oogle-investigating-pixel-2-xl-screen-burn-in

 

[V_R]

The main man at 9to5Google is saying Google should recall at least the first batch of phones.

https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/922103820435501056

 

[JediFragger]

No need to "kill for that ". A lot of us have already found it. It is called Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL.

Nope, Samsung is still killing it with their screens.

 

[uvarvu]

Bet you the guys over at Apple are watching these developments closely as well. No way they'll let LG manufacture iPhone screens with those defects.

 

[Ravster]

It gets worse, slightly longer term feedback is now coming in from multiple reviewers.... Google are "investigating reports" about the screen.

https://9to5google.com/2017/10/22/google-pixel-2-xl-burn-in/

Such a shame, I still want to buy the thing but this screen has made it impossible.

 

[MrRockliffe]

Bet you the guys over at Apple are watching these developments closely as well. No way they'll let LG manufacture iPhone screens with those defects.

OLED is particularly hard to manufacture. Samsung didn’t get it right until the S4, and even then I’ve seen numerous issues with retention and screen burn.

This is LGs first attempt (well second if you count the G Flex) at making OLED for a phone.

I just don’t think there was enough QC, paired with higher demand than they could supply and not enough time.

These screen ‘issues’ will be gone by 2018. The phone I saw in Carphone Warrhouse was flawless. No grain, dirty image, uniformity issues or anything (blue tint doesn’t look to be an issue but a design choice)

 

[V_R]

I am actually at the point now where cancelling my pre ordered 2XL is a possibility. I don't think I will be its certainly on my mind.

:|

 

[uvarvu]

Dunno whether to cancel or put up with it and RMA through phones until I get one that does haven't any flaws (assuming my initial phone is flawed)

 

[chanjy]

Well if you get it and it's dodgy then you can return, if you cancel now and re-order later you're right at the back of the queue!

So hold tight for now I reckon...

 

[kona786]

Well if you get it and it's dodgy then you can return, if you cancel now and re-order later you're right at the back of the queue!

So hold tight for now I reckon...

Agreed. Try the screen for yourself and see how it goes. Return if need be.

 

[Deepus]

It could actually be an advantage that we have had to wait for delivery of our phones. As more and more people/organisations are now questioning the display (for various reasons!), Google must surely do something about them? Even if it means a further delivery delay, I'm sure most customers won't mind providing they get a non-dodgy phone.

 

[_Jimlad_]

I am not cannceling. If these issues exsist on my device I will return for a full refund under sale of goods act and wait for a fix if needed. I won't be RMA or getting it swapped. certainly won't cancel untill full I see the official reviews.

 

[ddoubleep]

Thanks @AndyCr15 for your input into the battery. Sounds like it is holding up well.

Can anyone recommend an entry pair of BT in-ear phones and on-ear headphones? Just for basic Spotify or YT listing. Nothing too fancy.

 

[FishLicker]

I'm still sort of interested in the Pixel 2 XL but its looking less likely (I didn't pre-order). I'll wait and see whether the screen and other issues are resolved first - might just sit it out until my contract on my S7 Edge is finished and then hopefully there might be some better deals around.