***THE OFFICIAL GTX480/470 END USER REVIEW THREAD***

[RavenXXX2]

Of course, More AA/AF the better.

In just cause 2 it would be best to disable the cuda thing, it's a resource hog anyway for very little effect.

 

[bee]

gpu water simulation takes a HUGE hit on performance in just cause 2, bokeh filter also although not quite so big. calling it a poor console port is hilarious

 

[Jabbs]

Are you trying to inflame the thread ?

Everyone is getting along nicely, lets just keep it to the benchys and comparison's

Not at all mate am not that petty ill remove it.

 

[Cooper]

after all I didn't spend the best part of a half a grand on a video card

Lets all just stop for a second and think about that statement for a while, and realise that in the age of DX9 console port hand me downs, just how absurd it really is...

This statement applies to both Nvidia and ATI, so im not flaming Nvidia..

 

[Razor Time]

Lets all just stop for a second and think about that statement for a while, and realise that in the age of DX9 console port hand me downs, just how absurd it really is...

This statement applies to both Nvidia and ATI, so im not flaming Nvidia..

Why is it absurd? Loads of games benefit from having a top end gpu. I can run some of my games with 24xAA, apply different types of AA, supersampling, there is DX10 and DX11 games to consider, some games need allot of grunt to run at 1080p/1200p, some people have 2560x1600 displays, there are games like Metro, Crysis, Stalker etc that need beefy setups to run maxed out. Then there is physx, 3D, eyefinity etc....

If you think your getting the same experiance with an 8800gt or a mid ranged card as you are with a new top end gpu due to all games being console ports then your very much mistaken.

 

[Cooper]

Why is it absurd? Loads of games benefit from having a top end gpu. I can run some of my games with 24xAA, apply different types of AA, supersampling, there is DX10 and DX11 games to consider, some games need allot of grunt to run at 1080p/1200p, some people have 2560x1600 displays, there are games like Metro, Crysis, Stalker etc that need beefy setups to run maxed out. Then there is physx, 3D, eyefinity etc....

Doesn't matter what fancy effects and resolutions you apply, they are still dx9 class textures and assets from consoles that you are seeing on screen..

Which is completely different from 4 or 5 yrs ago, when you were seeing things on screen that could not be found anywhere else...

 

[Razor Time]

Doesn't matter what fancy effects and resolutions you apply, they are still dx9 class textures and assets from consoles that you are seeing on screen..

Which is completely different from 4 or 5 yrs ago, when you were seeing things on screen that could not be found anywhere else...

Of course it makes a difference. Are you saying DX10/11 is the same as Dx9? Is running at game with 2xAA the same as running it with 24xAA? Can you run a game flat out on a 2560x1600 display? Can you max out games like crysis, metro, stalker etc on a mid range card or an 8800gt? Can you run eyefinity or 3D? The answer is no so a high end card does have a place in some peoples setups. It sounds like you haven't tried a top end card with current games at a decent res. I have an 8800gtx and a 4870X2 and I can tell the difference between both setups in terms of eye candy and how far I can push the older gpu.

 

[RavenXXX2]

5870 results for comparison.

jungle

desert

tower

 

[coupe69]

Raven I Will re-run the just cause 2 benchmarks at those settings after the Manchester derby

What's the rest of your system just out of interest?

 

[Cooper]

Are you saying DX10/11 is the same as Dx9?

Of course not, what i am saying is that games built from the ground up to take full advantage of DX10 and DX11 are so few, if any, that using £500 video cards to run DX9 class titles, which is what the vast majority of current PC games are, is absurd.

Of course, if your one of the few hundred out of millions, who wants to run 6 screens, go ahead knock yourself out.....

But then your new £500 gfx card isnt really powerful enough anyway to run a true DX11 game across 6 screens...

 

[CAPTAINBUMFLUFF]

Of course not, what i am saying is that games built from the ground up to take full advantage of DX10 and DX11 are so few, if any, that using £500 video cards to run DX9 class titles, which is what the vast majority of current PC games are, is absurd.

Of course, if your one of the few hundred out of millions, who wants to run 6 screens, go ahead knock yourself out.....

But then your new £500 gfx card isnt really powerful enough anyway to run a true DX11 game across 6 screens...

True do you remember the 8800 gtx running a early dx10 game crysis couldn't run it on high, I remember the disappointed but I think the gtx 480 is better equipped

 

[coupe69]

.......Snip

Can we try and keep this thread on topic please, GTX 480/470 reviews and benchmarks only and comparisons such as Ravens above are welcome.

Ridiculous comments such as yours will only serve to derail the thread.

 

[bee]

can anyone with 3D vision run the just cause 2 benchmarks at these settings - 1680 x 1050, no AA, 16xaf, ssao/bokeh/gpu water all off, rest all max

 

[RavenXXX2]

Raven I Will re-run the just cause 2 benchmarks at those settings after the Manchester derby

What's the rest of your system just out of interest?

Yeah, best if you disable Bokeh and GPU water to make it a fair comparison.

Specs

i7 920 4Ghz HT disabled
Asus rampage 2 extreme
6GB corsair dominator
corsair 64GB SSD
corsair hx750w

 

[Razor Time]

Of course not, what i am saying is that games built from the ground up to take full advantage of DX10 and DX11 are so few, if any, that using £500 video cards to run DX9 class titles, which is what the vast majority of current PC games are, is absurd.

Of course, if your one of the few hundred out of millions, who wants to run 6 screens, go ahead knock yourself out.....

But then your new £500 gfx card isnt really powerful enough anyway to run a true DX11 game across 6 screens...

So we just ignore all the dx10 and dx11 games which do benefit from a better gpu as well as applying higher levels of AA or running games at a higher res?

In answer to your question, how many out of the millions actually buy a £500 gpu? Only the enthusiasts that want the extra eyecandy and know how to use it.

There is a need for high end gpus, just as there is a need for mid range gpus. Unlike consoles pc's come in many different flavours and are used in many different ways top end gpus fill a need and have done so since day dot. If you are happy running crysis, bfbc2, metro, farcry2 etc in dx9 with no AA then thats fine but allot of gamers on this and other forums arent.

 

[Razor Time]

Can we try and keep this thread on topic please, GTX 480/470 reviews and benchmarks only and comparisons such as Ravens above are welcome.

Ridiculous comments such as yours will only serve to derail the thread.

Agreed.

 

[marc512]

anyone got 3 way sli 480gtx yet or 2 way sli? would love to see benchmarks and inside case pictures

 

[coupe69]

Right I have some interesting results with the just cause 2 benchmarks.

I will put them in the same order as Ravens above.

Results with cpu @ 3.6GHz, no oc on the video card and same settings as Ravens.

Concrete Jungle:

Desert Sunrise:

Dark Tower:

Now the same benchmarks with cpu @ 4GHz which makes bugger all difference, as you can see no increase in frames at all.

Concrete Jungle:

Desert Sunrise:

Dark Tower:

Conclusion: An extra 8-9 fps in the desert sunrise benchmark over Ravens 5870, however the other 2 benchmarks are more or less identical give or take a frame or so.

and ocing my cpu made absolutely no difference whatsoever

 

[RavenXXX2]

I would say they are very good results for the 480, my 5870 is clocked to 1000 on the core, so very good FPS you have.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Some more benches, all maxed, 4xAA.