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Something you're working on?
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Soldato
Been a bit quiet in here. Anyone been recording anything.
Recorded another couple of tracks with a band I've recorded before, this time with a real drummer though!
https://soundcloud.com/projectmay/sweeney-and-the-fellas-in-your-grace/s-cJrIw
Tracking some more drums for a band I've never worked with tomorrow. Will be the first time recording a female singer as well (when we eventually get round to recording the vocals).
Recorded another couple of tracks with a band I've recorded before, this time with a real drummer though!
https://soundcloud.com/projectmay/sweeney-and-the-fellas-in-your-grace/s-cJrIw
Tracking some more drums for a band I've never worked with tomorrow. Will be the first time recording a female singer as well (when we eventually get round to recording the vocals).
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Caporegime
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I got around to doing a quick fun drum cover today of a classic Earth Wind and Fire song, using the original studio master track minus the drums that I found on youtube. It's not flawless timing but I'm fairly happy with my groove for the most part. No Chris Algae plugin, this is all my own Studio One mixing and default plugins. I tried to get the mix so that the drums aren't too prominent and fairly balanced. Although the big china cymbal on the right is a bit too loud, lol. Tad sibilant hi- hat I think. 
To be honest, I don't quite understand it because my snare mic is picking up so much hi-hat, more than the overheads and the hi-hat mic. I tried gating it out but then I start losing snare attack. I'm starting to think I ought to use my SM57 for the snare, perhaps these Samson mics are not as one directional as they should be.
I just did a gospel cover, the hi-hat is less sibilant here. Got to use my double bass drum pedal, only for one fill
To be honest, I don't quite understand it because my snare mic is picking up so much hi-hat, more than the overheads and the hi-hat mic. I tried gating it out but then I start losing snare attack. I'm starting to think I ought to use my SM57 for the snare, perhaps these Samson mics are not as one directional as they should be.I just did a gospel cover, the hi-hat is less sibilant here. Got to use my double bass drum pedal, only for one fill
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Soldato
Anyone done anything lately?
Here's the last thing I recorded:
https://soundcloud.com/projectsounduk/higher-ground-charlie-warlie-pudding-and-pie
Here's the last thing I recorded:
https://soundcloud.com/projectsounduk/higher-ground-charlie-warlie-pudding-and-pie
Caporegime
That is very good. I'm not a huge fan of the vocalist's tone but the song itself is a blast; loving the drums at 1'40 ish. And the half speed reduction at the end is great though the vocal sounds tacked on/left in, which I'm sure is intentional.
Our new EP, feedback welcome.
Our new EP, feedback welcome.
Soldato
Listened to the first track. I'm digging it man, sounds great!
Drums are super punchy! Are they all original, or is there some replacement happening?
Caporegime
Cheers dude. I didn't mean to sound so negative on the vocal, love the song and those drums are really good. What kind of trickery have you got going on there, or just a very good drummer?
Soldato
There is samples augmented over the close mic'd pieces but nothings been completely replaced.
It's okay, it's not my band, I wouldn't take offence even if it was!
The drummer was pretty good really but it's still quantized, with some samples over the top.I've been watching a creative live session with Nolly Getgood which seems to be one of the only guys making metal music without using samples on the most part. He spends way more time worrying about placing mics with the minimum amount of bleed (even sometimes compromising slightly on the sound) at the tracking stage so that he can do crazy stuff to the original pieces in the mixing stage. Need to give it a go but I've always struggled with bleed.
Soldato
Good stuff ShortWarning and Magnolia!
ShortWarning, I've got a question if you, or anyone else can answer this. I'm interested in doing mashups similar to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE0bQ7WQF9c
What I don't know is how he got Eric Clapton's vocals to stay in perfect sync, because the original song fluctuates in tempo between 102 and 106 bpm.
It's obviously sped up to 116 bpm to match Billy Jean, but how would he have gotten it to stay at 116 and not fluctuate?
The mashups I've attempted I've had to chop sections up of one song and increase or decrease tempo in each section to try and match the other song, but it never results in perfect rhythmic sync, so there's obviously some proper way to do this.
ShortWarning, I've got a question if you, or anyone else can answer this. I'm interested in doing mashups similar to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE0bQ7WQF9c
What I don't know is how he got Eric Clapton's vocals to stay in perfect sync, because the original song fluctuates in tempo between 102 and 106 bpm.
It's obviously sped up to 116 bpm to match Billy Jean, but how would he have gotten it to stay at 116 and not fluctuate?
The mashups I've attempted I've had to chop sections up of one song and increase or decrease tempo in each section to try and match the other song, but it never results in perfect rhythmic sync, so there's obviously some proper way to do this.
Soldato
Elastic audio or similar. It uses the transient points of the wave form to warp sections and ‘snap’ them to a musical grid. It makes no odds if it speeds up, slows down etc, so long as the transients can be detected, it can quantise the audio.
Soldato
Wow, so that's how it's done. Can that be done in Studio One 3? I bet it's complicated to execute though is it?
Soldato
I don’t know that DAW to be honest. Pro Tools does it out the box. Melodyne does a similar thing which would probably work as a plug-in...
Soldato
Thanks guys. easyrider, looking at the audio bend tutorial, it seems to be just manual manipulation with the bend tool, so I'm not understanding how I'd get it to snap to a grid, effectively quantise it in perfect time like Lowe said about elastic audio in pro tools?
Soldato
Well, I'm going to look up some tutorials on it, because once I understand how to quantise, there'll be no stopping me on mashups.
Meanwhile, I've spent a painstaking but enjoyable week producing this mashup, and even without quantising, it's come out pretty good I think, I'm quite proud of it. I did several pitch changes as well, most came out ok. I somehow managed to get so many things to fit, both audio and visually. Particularly the bit in the middle where most of the band drops out, how his vocals fit with the solo keyboard is uncanny.
Meanwhile, I've spent a painstaking but enjoyable week producing this mashup, and even without quantising, it's come out pretty good I think, I'm quite proud of it. I did several pitch changes as well, most came out ok. I somehow managed to get so many things to fit, both audio and visually. Particularly the bit in the middle where most of the band drops out, how his vocals fit with the solo keyboard is uncanny.
Soldato
How's everyone getting on with their projects.
I decided to load up a session from back in 2014. I quite like the song but it sounded like absolute turd (which isn't surprising, I think it was the second song I ever recorded).
Anyway, I decided I wanted to see how far my mixing had come so I gave it another crack. There were a few challenges, most namely, the guitars. These were recorded straight out of a pod mini and it seems we turned the low mids up to 11 and everything else to -10 (there's probably 8db scooped out at 400hz and probably a 12db high shelf in the new mix). The snare, kick and toms have been replaced (it was all programmed anyway) but everything else just required (a lot of) love.
Anyway, he's the remix:
https://soundcloud.com/projectsounduk/mix-rescue-little-bit-extra
As always criticisms are welcome!
I decided to load up a session from back in 2014. I quite like the song but it sounded like absolute turd (which isn't surprising, I think it was the second song I ever recorded).
Anyway, I decided I wanted to see how far my mixing had come so I gave it another crack. There were a few challenges, most namely, the guitars. These were recorded straight out of a pod mini and it seems we turned the low mids up to 11 and everything else to -10 (there's probably 8db scooped out at 400hz and probably a 12db high shelf in the new mix). The snare, kick and toms have been replaced (it was all programmed anyway) but everything else just required (a lot of) love.
Anyway, he's the remix:
https://soundcloud.com/projectsounduk/mix-rescue-little-bit-extra
As always criticisms are welcome!
Soldato
Hey, could anyone recommend a small mixer to use for zero latency monitoring as shown with this picture. I'm currently experiencing significant lag/phasing/chorusing when attempting to track guitar while listening to the input and playback.
Currently my setup is a:
Guitar -> Kemper = > Presonus AudioBox -USB-> PC
Headphones coming out of AudioBox.
*= donates stereo.
I'm looking at recording guitar with two inputs from my Kemper to the mixer but looking at any smaller home orientated mixers, they all seem to have a combined output. Any suggestions, around a budget £100-200 or so.
Currently my setup is a:
Guitar -> Kemper = > Presonus AudioBox -USB-> PC
Headphones coming out of AudioBox.
*= donates stereo.
I'm looking at recording guitar with two inputs from my Kemper to the mixer but looking at any smaller home orientated mixers, they all seem to have a combined output. Any suggestions, around a budget £100-200 or so.