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*** The official HTC One S thread ***
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I think the others are just uploading them to their image host sites, which then resize the photos for them, I have done the same with some of mine when uploading to imgur.
And yeah that is what I was saying earlier on, the full size images really need to be uploaded in order to see the difference more easily and plus that is when both look their best, but we can still see the basic differences from them anyway
Very good photos there
It is weird the colour saturation area, as in some photos, they don't look anywhere as saturated as what the other photos would be.
And yup, bright conditions help A LOT!
Hmm true enough, no idea about how that is worked out (must be just because it has 4 cores)
The S4 has more performance per a core than the GS 3 quad (hence the better linpack scores for single thread test, it is even better in the multi-thread test as well)
I am going by gsmarenas benchmarks though (comparing the X S4 version and S to the GS 3):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
So going by them, the S4 does appear to better than the GS 3 and X.
And plus Sarge has also said that the S4 is better than the quads (iirc, plus he knows the ins and outs of the hardware for all phones
)Just seen this earlier on, the GS 3 S4 review by anandtech, the one S and one X (s4) hold up exceptionally well
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/1
Looks like sense might be better optimized than touchwiz now
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Yeah pretty much what kona said there
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Yeah, I am a bit taken back by the GS 2 camera performance so far, really was expecting it to be much better and for there to be very little difference between the GS 3 and S.
Yeah agree with you overall there
Will also try to give that a shot and see what the outcome is. As I said above in my other post, sometimes shots can be really saturated, other times not so much and more realistic colours i.e.
took this one and that is how it looks in real life pretty much regarding the colours:
Yeah the GS 2 is dark and blurry there
GS 3 more bright and as usual captures more details and looks sharper but lacks some colour saturation IMO (do you know if that GS 3 has had the camera update?) and it does have quite a bit of noise there, notice it around the fence area.
As usual the HTC 1S looks more pleasing
due to the colours and less noise but doesn't capture the same amount of detail overall as the GS 3.yeah looks pretty true there - but as you can see with most of my comparisons - the HOS has a tendency too oversaturate a bit too much.
Yeah the GS 2 is dark and blurry there
GS 3 more bright and as usual captures more details and looks sharper but lacks some colour saturation IMO (do you know if that GS 3 has had the camera update?) and it does have quite a bit of noise there, notice it around the fence area.
As usual the HTC 1S looks more pleasing
I should have taken that S2 sot at iso800 - would have made it a lot better I think. - I think the lack of BSI may be hurting it.
I have yet to play with manual ISO on the s3 - it may improve it - was a bit too high in that shot IMO. I'm not sure what the camera fw version is on the S3 - will check next time.
That's it for my camera comparisons for now - will post some more here and there when I'm round their house but thats it
At least I've learnt a bit more about camera settings - never played around with ISO's before!
Yeah, it is weird! Not sure why some shots come out looking more natural and others really saturated/vibrant
Yeah it probably would have, as it made a big difference in the low lit shots of your carpet.
Have to redo that test now kona!!!!
Also, BSI???
Probably would have helped a bit as well.
That's it for my camera comparisons for now - will post some more here and there when I'm round their house but thats it
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
No worries, you have done more than enough
haha true!
I only really learned about the ISO stuff when I got my S and was messing around with the ISO, individual settings etc.
If you adjust all the settings for each shot, you really can get much better photos but as you know
, can be a pain doing that and time consuming so in some ways it is better to leave everything on auto Well, yes.
But if fully utilised, the SG3's would trounce the One S's therefore it is technically a better CPU.
. technically.
Well, yes.
But if fully utilised, the SG3's would trounce the One S's therefore it is technically a better CPU.
Only if the app/game made use of all 4 cores then it would, but if it only used 1 or 2 cores then the S4 beats the exynos CPU due to the better performance per core.
Plus the S4 is better for other areas such as heat and power consumption.
Basically until we get apps/games etc. that use 4 cores, then there really is very little need/point of quad core CPUs, heck the majority of apps/games still don't even fully utilise dual core CPU's yet
What do you want MORE camera comparisons for? Blimey!
Lol
I like to compare things!
This thread is actually full of photos, screenshots and videos
Just reminded me, we need some 1080P videos KONA!!!!!
Just kidding......... ¬_¬
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More photos
I just went and quickly took a few photos experimenting with the different saturation setting, ISO etc., however, I can't remember what setting I adjusted for each photo As I said it was very quick (plus TC was out so was playing with him for a bit in between each shot ), but I will let you see the differences anyway
First pic was just all auto and second pic was minus one saturation level.
Don't think there is too much difference for sharpness, detail but obviously big difference in colours, as usual the first one looks more pleasing
Now, this is where I can't remember the exact settings
Personally not keen on how little saturation there is when the setting is decreased and the increased sharpness looks a bit too much, the first 2 look the best I think, the 2nd one has slightly darker shadows.
I will have to give this a proper go soon and experiment properly!!!!
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Also be sure to open the images in new tabs, as they aren't resized so look even better full screen
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Also uploading a quick 1080P video sample with the saturation reduced by 1 level.
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Done!
I just went and quickly took a few photos experimenting with the different saturation setting, ISO etc., however, I can't remember what setting I adjusted for each photo
As I said it was very quick (plus TC was out so was playing with him for a bit in between each shot ), but I will let you see the differences anyway First pic was just all auto and second pic was minus one saturation level.
Now, this is where I can't remember the exact settings
I think for this shot, it was just ISO 100
For this it was auto, again I think.......
Think for this one, I reduced the saturation by one level
For this one, the sharpness was increased by one level
For this it was auto, again I think.......
Think for this one, I reduced the saturation by one level
For this one, the sharpness was increased by one level
I will have to give this a proper go soon and experiment properly!!!!
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Also be sure to open the images in new tabs, as they aren't resized so look even better full screen
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Also uploading a quick 1080P video sample with the saturation reduced by 1 level.
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Nice - the auto shots looks best to me. That pic is bigger than my U2711! Amazing that is still looks good at full size - great camera's this year.
The -1 on the saturation is too harsh - would have been better if HTC implemented more steps. LOL: -2 is B&W!
BSI = Back-side illumination sensor - for better low light pics.
Amazing that is still looks good at full size - great camera's this year.The -1 on the saturation is too harsh - would have been better if HTC implemented more steps. LOL: -2 is B&W!
BSI = Back-side illumination sensor - for better low light pics.
That pic is bigger than my U2711!
haha
Indeed!
Yeah, hopefully they will update the camera overall a bit, although I would probably just stick with the auto settings anyway
Lol
Another nice feature then! Ah right ok, thanks
Not sure if you have seen this in between all of the wall of texts and photos kona So will post it again, just in case.
Link to the performance benchmarks page:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/4
Bit shocked by that, thought the GS 3 would have been way ahead due to Samsung usually doing a better job of optimizing the software etc. granted the S has the lower resolution, which would have helped a lot but even the X S4 version is ahead in most of the tests and in other benchmarks where it looses, the Gs 3 is only ahead by a small amount
So will post it again, just in case.Just seen this earlier on, the GS 3 S4 review by anandtech, the one S and one X (s4) hold up exceptionally well
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/1
Looks like sense might be better optimized than touchwiz now
Link to the performance benchmarks page:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/4
Bit shocked by that, thought the GS 3 would have been way ahead due to Samsung usually doing a better job of optimizing the software etc. granted the S has the lower resolution, which would have helped a lot but even the X S4 version is ahead in most of the tests and in other benchmarks where it looses, the Gs 3 is only ahead by a small amount
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@Nexus18 So TC has a great love for food! I'm surprised he isn't like a massive fat cat waddling around all over the place! He must burn all the food chasing things all day
You have to upload a video of Sprite doing her kneading thing it sounds intriguing! I suppose as Sprite is so young she's going to be bounding around everywhere like a ball of fur!
In regards to the commute I have a 64Gb card in the S3 and I've got the whole of Season 4 Burn Notice on there as well as a couple of films. I saves me time from transferring stuff from my computer to my phone as most of the time I'm coming home from work, eating, spending abit of time with my family and hitting the sack. I rarely have time to myself to organise stuff on my phone so it's helpful just dumping everything I need on there so I don't have to worry about it later
@sarge78 Thanks Mate. Since the camera firmware update the S3 pictures have improved dramatically. I'm glad that CPWH swapped your HOS for a new one! I got to say that they are spot on for customer service and if given the chance I would buy my sim free phones from there as their after sales support is superb! When I had problems with my HOX and previous HOS they were spot on in regards to sorting the issues out
@kona786 Great picture comparison between the 3 phones!
IMHO I think that the S3 produces slightly better pictures because they're more detailed. As Nexus18 previously mentioned colours are slightly more saturated on the HOS and its more a question of taste what you actually prefer.
1080p camera recording on the S3 is amazing however it's let down by the slightly tinny sound on playback. Although the HOS video is slightly worse, the sound on the HOS has more base and punch to it.
I too have found a problem with the HOS in respect to red colours being changed to a pink like colour however with the bathtub pictures that Nexus18 I can't see any evidence of pink on the white background.
Of the low light pictures that kona786 so kindly posted ( putting these pictures up does take time
) It's again a toss up between the S3 and HOS and it again depends on taste whether your into over saturated colours or natural like colours.
One thing HTC have always had a problem with (this goes for most of their phones) that somehow the software tends to make reds turn more pink as mentioned before. This issue is touched upon in The Verge review of the HOS
Example below
kona786 and Nexus have brought up very valid points and I agree with them in regards to the usage of the quad core CPU in the S3. I very much doubt that all the cores are being used in terms of daily usage and it'll only be for graphic intense games and the fancy picture in picture video player that the S3 can run.
The HOS has an advantage for heat and power consumption there's no better chip than the S4 for it!
Hit the nail on the head
The auto shot of TC is much better than the second pic. As kona786 stated the saturation's too harsh on the second picture.
TC eating grass video is excellent! So funny!
Will try and upload a video comparison of the HOS and S3 in the next few days if and when I get time.
You have to upload a video of Sprite doing her kneading thing it sounds intriguing!
I suppose as Sprite is so young she's going to be bounding around everywhere like a ball of fur!In regards to the commute I have a 64Gb card in the S3 and I've got the whole of Season 4 Burn Notice on there as well as a couple of films. I saves me time from transferring stuff from my computer to my phone as most of the time I'm coming home from work, eating, spending abit of time with my family and hitting the sack. I rarely have time to myself to organise stuff on my phone so it's helpful just dumping everything I need on there so I don't have to worry about it later
@sarge78 Thanks Mate. Since the camera firmware update the S3 pictures have improved dramatically. I'm glad that CPWH swapped your HOS for a new one! I got to say that they are spot on for customer service and if given the chance I would buy my sim free phones from there as their after sales support is superb! When I had problems with my HOX and previous HOS they were spot on in regards to sorting the issues out
@kona786 Great picture comparison between the 3 phones!
IMHO I think that the S3 produces slightly better pictures because they're more detailed. As Nexus18 previously mentioned colours are slightly more saturated on the HOS and its more a question of taste what you actually prefer.
1080p camera recording on the S3 is amazing however it's let down by the slightly tinny sound on playback. Although the HOS video is slightly worse, the sound on the HOS has more base and punch to it.
I too have found a problem with the HOS in respect to red colours being changed to a pink like colour however with the bathtub pictures that Nexus18 I can't see any evidence of pink on the white background.
Of the low light pictures that kona786 so kindly posted ( putting these pictures up does take time
) It's again a toss up between the S3 and HOS and it again depends on taste whether your into over saturated colours or natural like colours.One thing HTC have always had a problem with (this goes for most of their phones) that somehow the software tends to make reds turn more pink as mentioned before. This issue is touched upon in The Verge review of the HOS
Example below
kona786 and Nexus have brought up very valid points and I agree with them in regards to the usage of the quad core CPU in the S3. I very much doubt that all the cores are being used in terms of daily usage and it'll only be for graphic intense games and the fancy picture in picture video player that the S3 can run.
The HOS has an advantage for heat and power consumption there's no better chip than the S4 for it!
Only if the app/game made use of all 4 cores then it would, but if it only used 1 or 2 cores then the S4 beats the exynos CPU due to the better performance per core.
Plus the S4 is better for other areas such as heat and power consumption.
Basically until we get apps/games etc. that use 4 cores, then there really is very little need/point of quad core CPUs, heck the majority of apps/games still don't even fully utilise dual core CPU's yet
Hit the nail on the head
The auto shot of TC is much better than the second pic. As kona786 stated the saturation's too harsh on the second picture.
TC eating grass video is excellent! So funny!
Will try and upload a video comparison of the HOS and S3 in the next few days if and when I get time.
@Nexus18 So TC has a great love for food! I'm surprised he isn't like a massive fat cat waddling around all over the place! He must burn all the food chasing things all day
He certainly does
Today, there was a small tesco bin bag sitting out in the drive way, which had an empty tin of cat food in it, what does TC go and do...... only goes to rip the bag open and get whatever is left in the tin
Had to stop him though as obviously the tins are quite sharp so didn't want him cutting his mouth/gums on itYou have to upload a video of Sprite doing her kneading thing it sounds intriguing!
Yeah, will definitely get a video of it (have got quite a few videos recorded but wasn't using my S so
), she usually only does it late at night though (in this heat, she just sleeps on the couch or somewhere else) so might take a few days till I get one recorded She is rather young, probably more on the older side (for a cat, I think), 5-6 years old but she does have a lot of energy
, TC is younger at about 2 years but like 2-3 times the size of Sprite LOL In regards to the commute I have a 64Gb card in the S3 and I've got the whole of Season 4 Burn Notice on there as well as a couple of films. I saves me time from transferring stuff from my computer to my phone as most of the time I'm coming home from work, eating, spending abit of time with my family and hitting the sack. I rarely have time to myself to organise stuff on my phone so it's helpful just dumping everything I need on there so I don't have to worry about it later
Yeah definitely much better/easier then
If I was in a similar situation, I would have gone for the GS 3 as well then.Hmmm, have yet to see any reds turn to a pinkish colour, haven't got many photos of red objects though, will have to try and take a few photos of red items and see how they come out.
TC eating grass video is excellent! So funny!
Will try and upload a video comparison of the HOS and S3 in the next few days if and when I get time.
haha yeah, after that he was lying on his side then and really digging in even more
Ok, nice one, look forward to it, expecting great things from the GS 3 for overall video quality. There is no rush
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@ Nexus - The S3 with S4 doesn't do great in those benchmarks against the One series - it would have been a clearer picture with the International Exynos S3 in there for complete comparison - it maybe that Samsung's software isn't as optimised as with the S4 than Exynos - after all the Exynos is in-house from the ground up to work with the S3. Better drivers etc - maybe updates will improve the S4's performance - new chip and all.
@stoosh - yeah I will do more comparisons with the S3 vs HOS later - I think I may have had auto contrast on and maybe some other stuff which may not have helped.
@stoosh - yeah I will do more comparisons with the S3 vs HOS later - I think I may have had auto contrast on and maybe some other stuff which may not have helped.
Unfortunately I don't think you can, it is the way android works regarding wallpapers, no matter what launcher you have etc.
Only way is to have one homescreen I think.
There might be an app, I am not sure. Better to ask in this thread though
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18129993&page=346
Indeed, don't know why anandtech didn't compare it to the quad GS 3 as well
Yeah, I think the more Samsung update and work with the s4 GS 3, the better it will get. Be interesting to see how things turn out in a few months time
Soldato
Apex settings > homescreen settings > wallpaper mode> single screen (non scrolling)
No idea if it's possible with other/stock launchers
Soldato
Just had to change my wallpaper, other one wasn't forum friendly
Nope it's not. (unless i'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying which is very possible)
Default wallpaper selection area
Stretched selection
Wallpaper
Nope it's not. (unless i'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying which is very possible
)Default wallpaper selection area
Stretched selection
Wallpaper