*** The official HTC One X thread ***

[mrk]

Have you handled the One X yet? If you found the S2 almost too wide then this won't change with the One X, perhaps look at the One S instead. All these new phones are much of a muchness in terms of size and weight. All very light, built well and feel high quality regardless of how they look.

 

[TehBluebear]

Have you handled the One X yet? If you found the S2 almost too wide then this won't change with the One X, perhaps look at the One S instead. All these new phones are much of a muchness in terms of size and weight. All very light, built well and feel high quality regardless of how they look.

Not yet, really need to duck into the phone shop and see what's what.

With regards to the SII, it's not a huge problem, but just felt a tad uncomfy. Probably need to handle one for a fair bit, see if I'd be able to get used to it.

How do the One X and SIII stack up in terms of battery life/usage? Or is this very much dependant on ROMs as well? One or two of my mates have said the HTC is more sturdier than the SIII?

 

[mrk]

Not yet, really need to duck into the phone shop and see what's what.

With regards to the SII, it's not a huge problem, but just felt a tad uncomfy. Probably need to handle one for a fair bit, see if I'd be able to get used to it.

How do the One X and SIII stack up in terms of battery life/usage? Or is this very much dependant on ROMs as well? One or two of my mates have said the HTC is more sturdier than the SIII?

They are both made of polycarbonate and weigh about the same but the X screen has the floating screen around the casing whereas the S3's entire front is glass. Both feel good quality and just as tough as each other really. One is smooth, the other is matte. Only real difference. The X has sharper edges and can be a little uncomfortable in the hand if gripped tightly or used for long periods. The One S is nice and curvy. Feels good in any condition, like the S3.

The S3 is more comfortable than the S2 and One X in the hand, especially so when holding them doing smartphone things for extended periods.

Battery life on the S3 is better naturally. It's a much bigger capacity battery and the One S is the competing phone in that department. People are getting 2 days life with 4 hours screen on time, for example.

Also, a nice dock for the X: http://www.androidcentral.com/mobi-products-desktop-cradle-htc-one-x-accessory-review

 

[TehBluebear]

Time to think long and hard now, will nip into an O2 store at the weekend, and I'll have a look around at contracts. I've noticed that T-Mobile seem to be doing some stupid cheap deals on the One X, but I stopped using them several years ago due to rubbish service; have they improved?

 

[sarge78]

It's worth noting the international One X will be replaced with a 28nm quad core Krait/Adeneo 320/2GB RAM version towards the end of the year. That's what I'm waiting for! :drool:

Until then I'd only consider the One S and SGS3 as next gen phones available in this country (Once you sample Krait you don't go back, most apps I use are still single thread heavy )

 

[Nexus18]

It's worth noting the international One X will be replaced with a 28nm quad core Krait/Adeneo 320/2GB RAM version towards the end of the year. That's what I'm waiting for! :drool:

Until then I'd only consider the One S and SGS3 as next gen phones available in this country (Once you sample Krait you don't go back, most apps I use are still single thread heavy )

Another new mobile by HTC.............I thought they said they were going to cut all these different devices out and just have a few like the 3 mobiles for the one series and then a couple other handsets?

That is partly why I went with them in the end as I thought they would be concentrating more on just a few devices and thus better for updates then.

Either way that is going to be EPIC, a true flagship phone

Your last line, very true!


@TehBluebear

If you found the GS 2 uncomfortable due to the size then the X and GS 3 aren't really going to be much better regarding that, even though they are better for the ergonomic design.

As mrk said, the S is a good option as well, roughly the same size as the GS 2 but much more comfortable to hold. It is in the same league as the X and GS 3 overall, the only thing that is holding it back compared to the GS3/X is the screen and limited storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21GB for apps).

 

[stoofa]

Another new mobile by HTC.............I thought they said they were going to cut all these different devices out and just have a few like the 3 mobiles for the one series and then a couple other handsets?

That is partly why I went with them in the end as I thought they would be concentrating more on just a few devices and thus better for updates then.

Either way that is going to be EPIC, a true flagship phone

Your last line, very true!


@TehBluebear

If you found the GS 2 uncomfortable due to the size then the X and GS 3 aren't really going to be much better regarding that, even though they are better for the ergonomic design.

As mrk said, the S is a good option as well, roughly the same size as the GS 2 but much more comfortable to hold. It is in the same league as the X and GS 3 overall, the only thing that is holding it back compared to the GS3/X is the screen and limited storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21GB for apps).

Sounds like a technology refresh rather than a brand new phone.

 

[Robbo]

Until then I'd only consider the One S and SGS3 as next gen phones available in this country (Once you sample Krait you don't go back, most apps I use are still single thread heavy )

Of course you can go back. The differences you're talking about there are absolutely tiny. It's all in your head!

As mrk said, the S is a good option as well, roughly the same size as the GS 2 but much more comfortable to hold. It is in the same league as the X and GS 3 overall, the only thing that is holding it back compared to the GS3/X is the screen and limited storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21GB for apps).

This is the thing though, the screen is right at the top of my list of things that are 'important', and the One S just is a non-contender there. I know it's decent enough by itself, but that ultimately doesn't help.

It's such a shame they didn't just release a One X/XL/whatever that was 'the' top phone and the One S should have been the mid range phone it was supposed to be.

 

[TehBluebear]

It's worth noting the international One X will be replaced with a 28nm quad core Krait/Adeneo 320/2GB RAM version towards the end of the year. That's what I'm waiting for! :drool:

Until then I'd only consider the One S and SGS3 as next gen phones available in this country (Once you sample Krait you don't go back, most apps I use are still single thread heavy )

Should I take that to mean the 28nm will be available in the UK at the end of this year, or is it more an 'Amurikka **** yeah' thing? I don't want to do what I did with my Desire again; I got it a month or two before the Desire HD came out, d'oh. Didn't know about the HD at the time.

If you found the GS 2 uncomfortable due to the size then the X and GS 3 aren't really going to be much better regarding that, even though they are better for the ergonomic design.

After feeling up my workmates (ooh er), I think it'd be able to get used to it to be honest.

 

[Robbo]

After feeling up my workmates (ooh er), I think it'd be able to get used to it to be honest.

And so you should, the larger size is to facilitate the screen, and the 720p screens are awesome.

The S3 (as mentioned) is a bit more ergonomic than the One X, but you could get used to both.

 

[Nexus18]

Sounds like a technology refresh rather than a brand new phone.

Yeah, I thought that also meant that sort of stuff as well. As that is what they did with the desire range and they didn't do well at all (apart from the first desire really).

This is the thing though, the screen is right at the top of my list of things that are 'important', and the One S just is a non-contender there. I know it's decent enough by itself, but that ultimately doesn't help.

It's such a shame they didn't just release a One X/XL/whatever that was 'the' top phone and the One S should have been the mid range phone it was supposed to be.

I know what you mean about the screen, but for a lot of people it isn't that important, obviously if it was like the wildfire screen or something then it would be utter utter trash , but the screen is very good on the S when not compared to the GS 3 and X as you said. The colours are great, my whites are bright white (brighter white than my IPS monitor , still need to get a pic of this), it is sharp enough (obviously no where near the GS 3 and X), nice size of a screen for everything whilst still feeling great in one hand, the only weak area is the sharpness really (the pentile effect on the icons and white text on black background, which I personally only notice when concentrating on it and close to the screen. And then the way that is surpasses the X in performance overall, audio is better, nicer feel/design IMO (I know you and others prefer the white X though), way better battery life more than makes up for the screen IMO.

I would say that the storage is a bigger disadvantage than the screen, well for me anyway Plus is the main reason why people at XDA haven't gone for the S, the screen wasn't an issue for them, just the storage Stupid HTC.................


Indeed! HTC were very stupid to not have just stuck to dual core S4 for the X for the international version, only reason they went for the quad/tegra was to fool the average joes into thinking "OMG awesome, QUAD CORE!" and to save money, after all quad core phone sounds better for marketing purposes rather than dual core. They have probably realised their mistake (hmmm, or maybe not, not so sure with HTC these days )

After feeling up my workmates (ooh er), I think it'd be able to get used to it to be honest.

Yeah, if you can get use to and don't mind the looks/design then the GS 3 and don't mind touchwiz, it is definitely the one to get, a more "complete package" than either of the HTC phones regarding hardware.

 

[Robbo]

Yeah, as we can all agree, HTC do make some stupid decisions.

They've lost out to Samsung this time again, and if they'd released the One X with the One S chip (for the power savings rather than the performance) and perhaps a slightly bigger battery too, they'd be on to a real winner. We shouldn't forget the video recording isn't great either (fine by itself, but comparatively it's a bit weak).

I find myself continually frustrated by the decisions these companies make. Samsung aren't perfect either but for me, they do a better and 'safer' job than HTC.

 

[forumID]

As long as HTC continue to work on optimising for the current Tegra rather than abandoning everything for Krait, is there not just going to be more to come from the OneX? Bit like the Q6600. I'll be pretty annoyed if they just concentrate all efforts on yet ANOTHER handset rather than nailing the ones that are already out and in need of tweaking.

 

[Robbo]

As long as HTC continue to work on optimising for the current Tegra rather than abandoning everything for Krait, is there not just going to be more to come from the OneX? Bit like the Q6600. I'll be pretty annoyed if they just concentrate all efforts on yet ANOTHER handset rather than nailing the ones that are already out and in need of tweaking.

If they do, the One X performance and battery life should improve quite a bit. Unfortunately from the perspective of HTC, the current performance is being used as the benchmark and the reviews/opinions are out there, and the consensus is that the S3 is the better phone due to it being directly better in most areas. The One S doesn't get much of a look in due to the screen/storage and lack of advertising.

They will probably release a new handset at some point later in the year, but nobody really knows what it will include. The specs being discussed are entirely hypothetical and have mostly been reported by gadget sites who hope, more than know, what they will be.

In the past they have released far too many phones, some of them were even good, like the Incredible S, but nobody bothered with them. The Desire HD was a half-arsed stop gap of a phone, and by releasing that they crippled some of the development of the HTC Sensation, which flopped as well. The Desire S is another one that springs to mind.

 

[Nexus18]

Yeah, as we can all agree, HTC do make some stupid decisions.

They've lost out to Samsung this time again, and if they'd released the One X with the One S chip (for the power savings rather than the performance) and perhaps a slightly bigger battery too, they'd be on to a real winner. We shouldn't forget the video recording isn't great either (fine by itself, but comparatively it's a bit weak).

I find myself continually frustrated by the decisions these companies make. Samsung aren't perfect either but for me, they do a better and 'safer' job than HTC.

Yup, they most certainly have.

Although at least it wasn't as bad as the sensation VS the GS 2 The GS 2 really did blow the sensation out of the water for everything.

Indeed! As well as a SD slot. If they had done those 2 things, I am pretty sure that there would not have been as many GS 3 owners then

Yeah that to No idea why they can't get 1080P recording to be great for smoothness etc. always the same for all their phones, granted a lot better on the one series mobiles though. Thankfully it isn't a major use of mine, use the slow motion recording more than the 1080P recording, easily makes up for it, for me


Likewise! As you said Samsung do a better job, however, they really messed up with the design/looks and material used for the GS 3 this time IMO, that is the only downfall of the phone IMO (not keen on touchwiz either, but it is an improvement at least and not a downgrade)

As long as HTC continue to work on optimising for the current Tegra rather than abandoning everything for Krait, is there not just going to be more to come from the OneX? Bit like the Q6600. I'll be pretty annoyed if they just concentrate all efforts on yet ANOTHER handset rather than nailing the ones that are already out and in need of tweaking.

The problem is, is that it is nvidia's tech and apparently it is very hard to work with their stuff (according to the folks at XDA) regarding writing code etc. where as with snapdragon chips etc. it is much easier, so it is very hard to say, obviously HTC will keep providing updates to the X for the next year though, but they just might not be able to bring much more to it I could be completely wrong though, will find out over the course of time

Completely agree with you on that last part, they need to forget about releasing new phones (even considering the thought of it ) already and just concentrate on fixing the current problems with the S and X rather than "oh, messed up here, will just release another mobile, which is better for those areas [but no doubt be worse in other areas then ]" and then once the main problems are fixed/improved then concentrate on next years phones, they aren't doing themselves any favours at all by doing what they are, only making things worse.

And what Robbo said there is very true.

 

[forumID]

If they do, the One X performance and battery life should improve quite a bit. Unfortunately from the perspective of HTC, the current performance is being used as the benchmark and the reviews/opinions are out there, and the consensus is that the S3 is the better phone due to it being directly better in most areas. The One S doesn't get much of a look in due to the screen/storage and lack of advertising.

They will probably release a new handset at some point later in the year, but nobody really knows what it will include. The specs being discussed are entirely hypothetical and have mostly been reported by gadget sites who hope, more than know, what they will be.

In the past they have released far too many phones, some of them were even good, like the Incredible S, but nobody bothered with them. The Desire HD was a half-arsed stop gap of a phone, and by releasing that they crippled some of the development of the HTC Sensation, which flopped as well. The Desire S is another one that springs to mind.

Agree with every word. It's a bit of a nightmare! Having a range is great and encouraged. The HOX, HOS, etc, really good for consumers. They just don't need to release a new range every 3 bloody months!

Unfortunately the S3 falls down at the first hurdle for me, looks! Whilst admittedly it looks loads better in real life, it's a bit like saying that an ugly bird looks better after 10 pints. It may be so, but she's still a moose.

The problem is, is that it is nvidia's tech and apparently it is very hard to work with their stuff (according to the folks at XDA) regarding writing code etc. where as with snapdragon chips etc. it is much easier, so it is very hard to say, obviously HTC will keep providing updates to the X for the next year though, but they just might not be able to bring much more to it I could be completely wrong though, will find out over the course of time

Completely agree with you on that last part, they need to forget about releasing new phones (even considering the thought of it ) already and just concentrate on fixing the current problems with the S and X rather than "oh, messed up here, will just release another mobile, which is better for those areas [but no doubt be worse in other areas then ]" and then once the main problems are fixed/improved then concentrate on next years phones, they aren't doing themselves any favours at all by doing what they are, only making things worse.

And what Robbo said there is very true.

Exactly. It does a great job of alienating consumers and watering down your product line to the point of grey (Ask someone what phone Samsung or Apple make, Galaxy and iPhone.. Ask someone what phone HTC make.. Er..!?), though for some a manufacturer releasing phones on the bleeding edge of technology is great. But we just don't need that much from them at the moment. Concentrate on making a really well thought out, well supported and well optimised handset that isn't going to be superseeded in 3 months, build a proper brand for it and advertise it properly (not with some stupid kid on his first fashion shoot which happens to be a skydive ).

 

[Nexus18]

Whilst admittedly it looks loads better in real life, it's a bit like saying that an ugly bird looks better after 10 pints. It may be so, but she's still a moose.

LOL

Exactly. It does a great job of alienating consumers and watering down your product line to the point of grey (Ask someone what phone Samsung or Apple make, Galaxy and iPhone.. Ask someone what phone HTC make.. Er..!?), though for some a manufacturer releasing phones on the bleeding edge of technology is great. But we just don't need that much from them at the moment. Concentrate on making a really well thought out, well supported and well optimised handset that isn't going to be superseeded in 3 months, build a proper brand for it and advertise it properly (not with some stupid kid on his first fashion shoot which happens to be a skydive ).

Completely agree with you! Although I personally really like that ad

But it was stupid lol.

That is the biggest problems these days with android, fragmentation and the amount of phones that are being released. As you said they (all companies) need to stick to 3 android devices each year only, the high, mid and low end devices and make sure that they really are suited to their categories regarding hardware, the low end device is, but the X and S are both top end devices really.

And that is another problem as you and Robbo brought up, their advertising/marketing, I don't think I have seen one ad for the HTC one S on TV at all let alone the unwanted child, the V , only seen ads for the X, what is the point of releasing a phone if they aren't going to market/advertise it at all............. they could even market the S and V in that same photography ad and market it as the "HTC one Series" instead of just the "HTC one X" after all it is a feature on all of the one series phones.....


Not a wonder HTC are falling down the hierarchy rapidly, unbelievable the amount of stupid decisions they make..............

 

[TehBluebear]

To be honest, most of the reason I'm considering the OneX over the SIII is the fact that I just cannot get along with the looks of the SIII. I just don't know whether I should plump for the OneX now, or wait until this fabled 28nm version is released (if it even is on the cards for the UK).

 

[Robbo]

To be honest, most of the reason I'm considering the OneX over the SIII is the fact that I just cannot get along with the looks of the SIII. I just don't know whether I should plump for the OneX now, or wait until this fabled 28nm version is released (if it even is on the cards for the UK).

The issue with phones is, there will always be something better around the corner.

I doubt we'll see anything from HTC until November time, so you should probably buy now.

If you get the new One X or whatever around Christmas, there will be talk of the Galaxy S 4 and so on... which will be better still.

 

[forumID]

To be honest, most of the reason I'm considering the OneX over the SIII is the fact that I just cannot get along with the looks of the SIII. I just don't know whether I should plump for the OneX now, or wait until this fabled 28nm version is released (if it even is on the cards for the UK).

I'd just get one now. As Robbo says, and seemingly with smart phones more than usual tech, there will always be something else just around the corner. There's nothing about my OneX that would make me swap it for any other current phone. The only other option for me is the S3, and like yourself, with the looks it's not really an option anyway.