Kind of sad really, the was nothing ever wrong with him, just that Murdoch convinced people the was and Labour didn't do anything to change voter perception of him, if they had managed to show people the "real Ed" it could have all ended so differently.
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Kind of sad really, the was nothing ever wrong with him, just that Murdoch convinced people the was and Labour didn't do anything to change voter perception of him, if they had managed to show people the "real Ed" it could have all ended so differently.
AV was far too confusing an unfair a concept to work if they'd have pitched PR it would have been very difficult to argue against, but very easy to argue for.
AV = easy argument of "but they guy who voted differently to you gets 2 votes you only get!!!!"
PV = the very hard argument of "well of course votes shouldn't be equal or the result actualy reflect the votes"
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BBC reporting it has learned that Milliband is to stand down, apity for Labour that he waited until now for this decision, had he done so a year or so back who knows....
Completely the wrong man with the wrong team for the job as the country has clearly indicated.
Completely the wrong man with the wrong team for the job as the country has clearly indicated.
But couldn't it have been a case of people wanting a different system, i.e. PR?
Soldato
Joyous! I'll raise a bacon sarnie to celebrate his departure shortly.
All we need now is for Hamilton to win the Spanish F1 GP and it'll be a perfect weekend.
Man of Honour
It's on BBC News now. Ed Miliband to resign.
Caporegime
It's an outstanding result for the SNP, who now have an overwhelming mandate to request another referendum for Scottish freedom. Bring it on!
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true but the nail hit home as people actually voted they didnt think that much they just thought ed milliband.........nah
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Nick Clegg can't be far behind. His position is untenable with the LDs being decimated.
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The problem for Labour is that they don't really have anyone suitable to become the next leader. There is a real deficit in charisma and leadership in Labour, plus they've too many champagne socialists.
He never should have been there in the first place anyway 5 years too late.
Soldato
If they had 12% in every constituency across the country they wouldn't have a single seat.
It's a lot of people but no where near enough. if anything they should have focused their resources on less seats.
Man of Honour
Nicola Sturgeon has been on BBC News saying the opposite.
Soldato
We're running a deficit of billions a month, in what way aren't we borrowing already?
This is what I don't understand perhaps someone can explain it.
When Scotland was voting for independence it was asked many times on this forum how will they cover the "black hole" in finances?
But doesn't the UK as a whole have a similar black hole in it's finances or is the UK actually making more than it spends?
No...they don't, this just makes it slightly more brutal for the smith commission, nothing more.
Don't make out that the SNP are full of dumb hicks, they know when their time will come.
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No, they don't. If you lose a referendum, you don't get to call another just a few years later. It was a once in a generation opportunity and the SNP lost.
The difference is the UK has the confidence of the markets to sustain this deficit in the short term. It also has its own currency so can pull various levers if things got out of control. The SNP wanted Scotland in the Euro or to use Sterling controlled by London, so they'd have no such monetary control.
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It's a disaster 56 useless back benchers, and shame on Labour in England for a poor showing.