Poll: The official I voted/election results thread

[ReltonBFD]

Drinking labours tears . Loving it . would have preferred UKIP in some other seats and Farage of course but good result .

I reckon the boundary changes which Lib Dem opposed last time in the coalition will be one of the first new acts , EU ref. to come in 2017 also .

All the scrounging *******s better get ready to stop relying on handouts too

Actually looking forward to what they are going to change and do !

 

[a1ex2001]

I don't want compromise so I am very happy. I look forward to the Conservatives fulfilling their manifesto pledges.

Compromise would almost certainly be better for the country a balance of the peoples views represented and the worst excesses of any party checked. A coalition could have prevented the worst of new labours **** ups and moderated Thatchers extremes.

Interesting to see how long the conservatives hold it together especially once they've lost a few by-elections as the sitting government always do and the European referendum pops up.

 

[Rroff]

It's unfortunate that Clegg will be remembered for this one policy that the Lib Dems conceded on, and not for the checks and balances that they brought to the coalition. We'll know in the next 5 years whether the Tory party unleashed is better or worse than we had previously.

In any case, it feels unjust to me that apparently the majority of the voting public have placed the blame for the failures of the last government squarely on the doorstep of the Lib Dem party, while apparently embracing the work that the Conservatives did.

Indeed:

"The snoopers’ charter received huge criticism from computing experts and civil liberties campaigners in the wake of introduction. It was set to come into law in 2014, but Nick Clegg withdrew his support for the bill and it was blocked by the Liberal Democrats."

People who think they sold out wholesale to the Conservatives couldn't be more wrong.

 

[SDK^]

Warwick & Leamington
Kenilworth & Southam

These will both be Conservative

 

[George Hincapie]

couldn't agree more doesn't mean for most of us tories are a good choice. They only look after themselves

I think you've got that twisted. They support those that work hard and don't expect life gifted to them.

 

[cheesyboy]

It's unfortunate that Clegg will be remembered for this one policy that the Lib Dems conceded on, and not for the checks and balances that they brought to the coalition. We'll know in the next 5 years whether the Tory party unleashed is better or worse than we had previously.

In any case, it feels unjust to me that apparently the majority of the voting public have placed the blame for the failures of the last government squarely on the doorstep of the Lib Dem party, while apparently embracing the work that the Conservatives did.

Tories delivered what Tory voters want: come down hard on the "undeserving" poor and unfortunate, make tax cuts, shrink the state, and bring in socially-conservative laws.

Lib Dems, by dint of having their name on the papers, delivered the opposite to what Lib Dem voters want. So they got hammered. It was their job to moderate, and there was too little evidence of success (in part due to lack of success, in part due to failure to make clear or divulge those successes)

 

[thenewoc]

farage lost

He came 2nd to the conservatives, not a great surprise with our system, the thought of labour was too much for some to stomach so the conservative safeguard mechanism stepped into play.

Certainly no white wash he still did admirably to lead his party to a substantial share of the national vote.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

My money is on Chukka Umuna

That would be yet another mistake for Labour. They need someone with working class credentials, not another lawyer.

 

[Glaucus]

Indeed:

"The snoopers’ charter received huge criticism from computing experts and civil liberties campaigners in the wake of introduction. It was set to come into law in 2014, but Nick Clegg withdrew his support for the bill and it was blocked by the Liberal Democrats."

People who think they sold out wholesale to the Conservatives couldn't be more wrong.

The trouble is I doubt people will write to their mp opposing it. If en mass people did, it would pretty much force those mps to block it.
If a third can be even bothered to cite, I bet less than 3% could be bothered telling their mp what they want.

 

[Rroff]

I think you've got that twisted. They support those that work hard and don't expect life gifted to them.

Which is great on one hand but means that in cases like the whole "inherited burden" thing their approach just adds insult to injury.

 

[Maccapacca]

Cameron must be laughing his socks off.

Mass resignations
Overall majority

Sam Cam is going to get it tonight

 

[Rilot]

I can't see Harriet Harperson being good for the Labour party during their transition to a new leader.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Indeed:

"The snoopers’ charter received huge criticism from computing experts and civil liberties campaigners in the wake of introduction. It was set to come into law in 2014, but Nick Clegg withdrew his support for the bill and it was blocked by the Liberal Democrats."

People who think they sold out wholesale to the Conservatives couldn't be more wrong.

I honestly think the whole Clegg thing is a massive shame. The vilification he got for the tuition fees thing was unfair and unjust - he didn't break a promise, the electorate didn't vote in a Lib Dem Government! He wasn't in charge so how could he force his policy through? He was stuck between a rock and a hard place and I've no idea why he didn't explain this far more to people every time they attacked him for it.

 

[elmarko]

After reading a few comments about FPTP vs PR I thought I'd mock up how the election would have looked without FPTP.

The seats are estimated based off the current share of the votes a few hours ago but the trends should be consistent.



The two clear winners from FPTP this election are the DUP & SNP - receiving a significantly higher proportion of influence in the commons per vote, with the Green Party & UKIP the clear losers.

 

[ElliorR]

I wonder how many people who voted Tory were expecting a the same coalition as before but now are a bit unsure about how they voted? I hope there's not a lurch too far to the right as the middle ground is where we need to be.

 

[Glaucus]

It's the worst thing to happen in politics for ages, LD should have gained rather than be demolished.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Yet crime numbers are at historic lows, and, in terms of officer numbers,

9% below the historic peak of officer numbers doesn't sound so bad... that's 15 995 below the historic peak of 144 353. In 2000 the number of police officers was 124 000... at the end of January 2014 the number of police officers was 128 358.

So, it looks like it's not as though officer numbers have been slashed if compared to historic figures... they just peaked when Labour spent a load of money on them through their time in power.

(Those figures are slightly out of date, now, because that's basically copied from an old post of mine, but you can see my point).

You'll say about cuts to other, non-front line staff, but has that resulted in poorer outcomes? On the arguably most important measure - crime levels - there hasn't been a reduction in performance, has there?

Recorded crime is a narrow metric regarding what the Police actually do. The problem that we had in the mid 2000s wasn't so much about actual crime but the fear of crime. We also deal with a lot of incidents that are technically classified "non-crime" such as mental health, various domestics and anti-social behaviour. Regardless of what certain politicians say, the police don't just deal with crime.

The crime stats also don't show the outcomes of prosecutions. There is a real problem at the moment where we don't have dedicated specialist in certain crimes which I would argue is leading to lower quality investigations and therefore less charges and convictions.

 

[joeyjojo]

I think you've got that twisted. They support those that work hard and don't expect life gifted to them.

I understand the Tories have this image of being anti-scrounger/pro self-made-man, akin to the Republican party in the USA, I'm just wondering why you're so attracted to this?

For example, do you have children? The Tories are planning to cut a further 7-12% from school funding this parliament. I understand you don't want life "gifted" to people, but is spending on education really a "gift"?

I get that tax cuts and services cuts are attractive to some people, but I'm sure you're missing the bigger picture, that we'll all be poorer for this government.

 

[dbmzk1]

Well that's it, done. Didn't quite expect them to get a majority but seen as Miliband is a total nut job I'm not surprised.

In general I'm happy with the result, though I'm a bit worried about the NHS. I don't think it needs more money, it needs to be managed better. But the Torys will do neither so who knows what happens next!

 

[a1ex2001]

Tories delivered what Tory voters want: come down hard on the "undeserving" poor and unfortunate, make tax cuts, shrink the state, and bring in socially-conservative laws.

Lib Dems, by dint of having their name on the papers, delivered the opposite to what Lib Dem voters want. So they got hammered. It was their job to moderate, and there was too little evidence of success (in part due to lack of success, in part due to failure to make clear or divulge those successes)

The liberals your right failed to publicise their successes properly and I'm sure they thought it was in the interests of stability of the coalition, there wins were pretty significant given the very small number of seats in comparison to the conservatives. Sadly going into coalition was always going to hit them as it's not something the UK electorate are used to or really understand.

The trouble is I doubt people will write to their mp opposing it. If en mass people did, it would pretty much force those mps to block it.
If a third can be even bothered to cite, I bet less than 3% could be bothered telling their mp what they want.

Last time round I wrote to my MP (Nick Clegg) and got a very nice response and he backed the views of the people when it really mattered