Caporegime
According to sky news, the queen would be fascinated to know how tired Cameron is.
I think that's putting it a bit strong!
I think that's putting it a bit strong!
I think you've got that twisted. They support those that work hard and don't expect life gifted to them.
We would have had a CON/UKIP coalition under PR, maybe it's best we stick with FPTP!![]()
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To say this result has shocked me would be an understatement. I knew the Tories would get a larger number than Labour but nowhere near a majority.
I never realised just how little I had in common with people of my own country. Politics of compassion and progression has been replaced by fear, money and selfishness. I'm utterly distraught and extremely worried about the future.
I knew this forum leaned heavily toward the right, but to see it reflected across the country is very worrying. If I have a viable option to leave England in the future, then I will give it serious consideration because another 5 years of a Tory government, without LibDems to pull them back, will be devastating to the services and national treasures that I love and believe in. They have been given the permission and confidence by the population to forever change the makeup of the country and the outcome is not something I'd ever want to be part of. What a tragic day this is for the UK.
To say this result has shocked me would be an understatement. I knew the Tories would get a larger number than Labour but nowhere near a majority.
I never realised just how little I had in common with people of my own country. Politics of compassion and progression has been replaced by fear, money and selfishness. I'm utterly distraught and extremely worried about the future.
I knew this forum leaned heavily toward the right, but to see it reflected across the country is very worrying. If I have a viable option to leave England in the future, then I will give it serious consideration because another 5 years of a Tory government, without LibDems to pull them back, will be devastating to the services and national treasures that I love and believe in. They have been given the permission and confidence by the population to forever change the makeup of the country and the outcome is not something I'd ever want to be part of. What a tragic day this is for the UK.
I knew this forum leaned heavily toward the extreme of the extremes right
Labour didn't lose because they shifted to the left. They lost because they lost touch with the working classes.
Labour tried to appeal to what the Islington chattering classes told them the poor wanted. Talking about "tax cuts for millionaires" loses a lot of authenticity when it comes from metropolitan millionaires. Those in the Labour party were often perceived to look upon the poor with contempt. Emily Thornberry's white van incident is a fine example of this. They also seemed hypocritical when talking about "Tory posh boys" having often gone to the same schools.
The man the conservatives really feared was Alan Johnson. He was "one of us" in the eyes of Labour voters. Labour struggled to present people that many traditional Labour voters could relate to. Labour needs to drop the PPE spads, and find MPs people can relate too.
After reading a few comments about FPTP vs PR I thought I'd mock up how the election would have looked without FPTP.
The seats are estimated based off the current share of the votes a few hours ago but the trends should be consistent.
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The two clear winners from FPTP this election are the DUP & SNP - receiving a significantly higher proportion of influence in the commons per vote, with the Green Party & UKIP the clear losers.
Cutting the state to the bone and another 5 years of real-terms wage cuts?
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/6994/economics/uk-wage-growth/
I know, hence the smileys. I would prefer PR in any case.
Great result! Very happy allowing the Conservatives finish what they started 5 years ago!
I agree. I'm very concerned at the state of public services after the next 5 years. The Police simply can't sustain any more cuts.
I understand the Tories have this image of being anti-scrounger/pro self-made-man, akin to the Republican party in the USA, I'm just wondering why you're so attracted to this?
For example, do you have children? The Tories are planning to cut a further 7-12% from school funding this parliament. I understand you don't want life "gifted" to people, but is spending on education really a "gift"?
I get that tax cuts and services cuts are attractive to some people, but I'm sure you're missing the bigger picture, that we'll all be poorer for this government.
I am loving the pathetic commie whining from the trade unionists on ITV.
37% of the vote is not a legitimate vote! they bleat.
It was for labour apparently.
Who in their last victory polled a whole 35%.
Didnt see them asking for Tony and co to get out. 35.2% and they ended up with 355 seats from that, while the Tories polled 32.4% yet they ended up 198 seats.
Labour have polled even less than the tories did in 2005, yet ended up with 30 more seats.
Dont remember the unions whining then.
Hypocritical **** stains.
There's a reason why the forum is blue...![]()
I agree. I'm very concerned at the state of public services after the next 5 years. The Police simply can't sustain any more cuts.
I think you've got that twisted. They support those that work hard and don't expect life gifted to them.
My wages have increased over the past 5 years by 50%. I studied hard, got 2 Diplomas and have worked my ass off and I now get paid very good wage!
People need to pull their fingers out! Opportunity is everywhere, stop complaining and go grab it with both hands!
And these cuts aren't being done for the lols, they're needed to reduce the deficit!
It's frustrating, isn't it. That so many people, born to the good fortune of being in one of the best countries in the world, are so lacking empathy and compassion to their fellow man.
Cameron must be laughing his socks off.
Mass resignations
Overall majority
Sam Cam is going to get it tonight