Poll: The official I voted/election results thread

[StriderX]

yes there is a tendency for people to jump on a cautious approach after the fact as being too cautious or slow, but its much better to have picked your way through safely than rushed and ****ed it up spectacularly.

in hindsight when youi know the path its easy to how it could have been done quicker.

Exactly, we cannot reasonably know what labour could have done in the past five years (though i could easily guess going by my local council).

you know something hats interesting, fixed contracts/hours are considered sexist.

because women tend to work part time more than men. we had our "dignity at work course" where the feminazi running it basically said if a job is full time its discriminatory to women..

But part-time work was already there and sufficient, in fact everyone should be in flexible hours anyway, full-time is ancient and actually likely hinders productivity.

 

[SlugForAButt]

Correct, it was extremely reckless to sell Britains gold reserves at a 20 year low just to fund the upcoming election giveaway.

 

[Tefal]

But part-time work was already there and sufficient, in fact everyone should be in flexible hours anyway, full-time is ancient and actually likely hinders productivity.

flexible hours don't work very well in production environments though. where fixed shifts work much better.

great for offices maybe, but manufacturing not really.

 

[StriderX]

flexible hours don't work very well in production environments though. where fixed shifts work much better.

great for offices maybe, but manufacturing not really.

Services sector is larger though, more effect on GDP?

In addendum, its the only way to increase "employment", the economies of the world cant sustain the population and the disparity is getting worse by the day.

 

[arknor]

Correct, it was extremely reckless to sell Britains gold reserves at a 20 year low just to fund the upcoming election giveaway.

didn't someone do something similar with royal mail and probably a large chunk of the NHS soon too...

Just bizzare coincidence it always happens when Labour are in power...

whos been in power for the few years?
charts look worse than labour

coincidence eh must be all that austerity

anyway stop reading my tripe and put me on your ignore list.
Thanks

 

[Rroff]

flexible hours don't work very well in production environments though. where fixed shifts work much better.

great for offices maybe, but manufacturing not really.

One thing I'm not really sure on is how much is due to policy and how much a natural effect of the movement of industry in this country from manufacturing lead to service lead. One way or another its probably going to be something that ends up needing a certain level of regulation :S

 

[Rroff]

Interesting thing about that chart - you can see most of the military conflicts over that time reflected in it.

 

[StriderX]

Interesting thing about that chart - you can see most of the military conflicts over that time reflected in it.

Sad thing is...if you look at closely, its hardly wise to correlate, but id assume were headed for another devastating period (which has been what my choices have been made on).

 

[Rroff]

Heh I actually thought that looking at it (but deleted that part of my post) - but it is conjecture/unsubstantiated at best.

 

[StriderX]

Heh I actually thought that looking at it (but deleted that part of my post) - but it is conjecture/unsubstantiated at best.

Conjecture, perhaps, but in the face of weakening Western hold on the world and rising rabidity in all nations, i dunno.

 

[D.P.]

Just bizzare coincidence it always happens when Labour are in power...

False, it doesn't. There is no significant average difference between the deficit of Tory and labour parties.

 

[Rroff]

Dunno why but find the comparison between the look of the cartoon drawing of maggie simpson and the final election map quite amusing.

 

[D.P.]

Interesting thing about that chart - you can see most of the military conflicts over that time reflected in it.

Inch is why reducing military spending and adjusting foreign policy accordingly, stand thing the EU ties etc is going to be extremely benefits. Wars are expensive in money and lives, most innocent civilian lives. We should do are best to prevent them occurring.

 

[Rroff]

Double edged sword IMO - potentially a very bad time to reduce military spending and a weaker international standing due to having less military clout (sad but realistically that is the way it is) could result in other countries making inroads in UK foreign business.

 

[arknor]

Double edged sword IMO - potentially a very bad time to reduce military spending and a weaker international standing due to having less military clout (sad but realistically that is the way it is) could result in other countries making inroads in UK foreign business.

I know it's not exactly what you meant but there's already been American warships escorting British commercial vessels near Iran
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-navy-esco...strait-hormuz-after-iran-ship-seizure-1907579

Military cuts are just going to make us rely on foreign powers more and more and if they see us as weak militarily then countries like America aren't going to be so happy to escort our vessels.

it won't be in their interests to like it is now

The head of the US army has expressed serious reservations about the impact of cuts on the capacity of British forces, heaping further pressure on David Cameron to commit to maintaining spending.

The chief of staff, General Raymond Odierno, said he was “very concerned” about the falling proportion of national wealth devoted to the military and warned it could result in British units being forced to operate within US ranks rather than alongside them.

Ministers are under increasing pressure from Tory MPs and senior military figures to commit Britain to meeting the Nato target to spend at least 2% of GDP on defence beyond 2016.

Interestingly http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/year_spending_2016UKbn_14bc1n_3031#ukgs302 shows Foreign economic aid 8.2b as part of defence spending

The tables of government spending on this site aggregate all public spending in the United Kingdom by fiscal year organized by government function.

The government must class it that way too then right?
easy 8.2billion saved from the defence budget without reducing military spending

Then no need for the 8bn welfare spending cut
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...xander-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits

win win

 

[Rroff]

I'm less concerned about the US working with us, etc. than the fact that weakening our military clout means we would be diminished on the international stage which in the long run also means diminished income from outside the UK - leaves other emerging countries, etc. far more free reign to make inroads into our foreign commercial interests. Short terms savings in that direction will have much bigger long term financial implications IMO.

 

[Sankari]

People had a chance to vote for at least maintaining the vestiges of social cohesion, humanity and fairness in their society. They haven't done so mainly due to a systemic media campaign of misinformation, misrepresentation, and scaremongering with the BBC leading the charge. Questions about the media coverage of this election need to be raised but they won't be.

Are you actually accusing the BBC of pushing right-wing propaganda? Seriously? Because this guy thinks the BBC was pushing left wing propaganda:

Oh yeah i just remembered, the BBC licence fee is up for debate in a couple of years

They must be bricking it for how biased they were during the election, the Tories have long memories

Then again, he also said this:

And UKIP is in a great position for the next election.

 

[smr]

So David Cameron is open to a vote to repeal fox hunting. Where an act of barbaric cruelty ensues as a beautiful creature is hunted down and ripped to shreds for the fun of looney murderous rich classes. What a thoroughly nice chap.

 

[MrKnifey]

Its not just rich people who hunt you know?

 

[Maccapacca]

I think the biggest concern is the promises they made in the manefesto they thought they would never have to honour in a coalition.